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Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> >
> More importantly, why did you post that message for HIM,
> effectively creating a shield for him? Why didn't you ask
> him to post it himself and suffer the consequences?
>


Suffer the consequences?

You're taking this way too seriously. He doesn't have to defend himself here (NO ONE HAS TO). And what kind of consequences would he suffer? A bunch of overly sensitive people criticizing him for an accomplishment he is proud of? As a matter of fact, the last line about why it is a topic here indicates to me that he could care less that you all wish to discuss his "achievements", no matter how trivial you all say they are.

I've hardly created a "shield". The original post blasted him. It's not my job to make people post here, just like I don't have the power to make them post something on their own website. If he wants to defend himself against some rediculous accusations/opinions, he knows how to register.

If it truely is such a problem for some of you, then you should contact The Payne Awards directly and ask THEM who nominated him...if at that point you get an answer worth discussing here that indicates his is misleading people, we can discuss it again. In the mean time...there are only a couple of naysayers that don't like him trying to create controversy. Do your research...go to the source. Contact The Payne Awards directly or contact Maloney directly. Otherwise this is all speculation (although Maloney did give an answer that should be satisfactory).
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I think there is a larger point outside of "shielding" Maloney or not agreeing with him. The big question is:

When did an unemployed radio-host (with no talent...my opinion) take a hobby of blogging on Radio and morph it into an opportunity to apply/be nominated for a JOURNALISM award.

Maloney (or Baloney as many call him, including me) as far as we all know, doesn't have any journalism credentials and his distorions, misleading information, and lies in general (my opinion) do not qualify as journalism.

Even if he self-nominated, should the committee reviewing the award candidates actually give any weight to his "body of work" which basically is a self-created, non-paid blog that he solicits ads to support the cost? I would hope not. Any award this group would give to Maloney would compromise their credibility if they have any. This is similar to the things Rush Limbaugh does to conflate himself with journalists. Its just misleading self-nominated or not. Based on the vague response, he sent Cabradio, well it just shows his lack of courage and ability to defend himself to those who question him. I know he also edits highly critical comments on his blog so this is once again a demonstration of his lack of courage.

No matter how good or fun it is to read some of the blogs on the web, the authors who are not trained journalists or are degreed jounalists cannot "morph" themselves into something they are not. O'Reilly is a trained, experienced Journalist. Rush Limbaugh is not. Katheryn Lampher is a trained, experienced Journalist, Al Franken is not. Maloney is not good at either...just my opinion.

I think thats the real issue....and he should be called on the table for it. If he has no courage to post here, then so be it. I don't think Scribbler or anyone else is going to lose sleep on this issue. Im just disappointed that Cab is pretending (or choosing) not to see what the real deal Scribbler is making here.
I know you won't care about my opinion but it just seems odd to give that a pass, thats all. Its pretty clear one would hope. Again, i might have Cab wrong and hope I do have it wrong...but the issue with Maloney is still very clear and he is attempting to mislead, which is wrong and unfortunate.


> You're taking this way too seriously. He doesn't have to
> defend himself here (NO ONE HAS TO). And what kind of
> consequences would he suffer? A bunch of overly sensitive
> people criticizing him for an accomplishment he is proud of?
> As a matter of fact, the last line about why it is a topic
> here indicates to me that he could care less that you all
> wish to discuss his "achievements", no matter how trivial
> you all say they are.
>
> I've hardly created a "shield". The original post blasted
> him. It's not my job to make people post here, just like I
> don't have the power to make them post something on their
> own website. If he wants to defend himself against some
> rediculous accusations/opinions, he knows how to register.
>
> If it truely is such a problem for some of you, then you
> should contact The Payne Awards directly and ask THEM who
> nominated him...if at that point you get an answer worth
> discussing here that indicates his is misleading people, we
> can discuss it again. In the mean time...there are only a
> couple of naysayers that don't like him trying to create

> controversy. Do your research...go to the source. Contact
> The Payne Awards directly or contact Maloney directly.
> Otherwise this is all speculation (although Maloney did give
> an answer that should be satisfactory).
>
 
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> The original post blasted
> him. It's not my job to make people post here, just like I
> don't have the power to make them post something on their
> own website. If he wants to defend himself against some
> rediculous accusations/opinions, he knows how to register.

I was going to let this thread die a natural death, but since the moderator has chosen to call my original post "ridiculous," I'll post one more time on this topic.

My point was that while winning a Payne Award is something to be proud of, anybody can nominate anybody for this award and therefore the mere fact of being nominated is meaningless.

What really seemed to set off some people was my attempt to illustrate this point with some imagined "quotes" by a would-be award winner. If that offended anybody, I apologize. I don't know if Maloney nominated himself or if he was nominated by Michelle Malkin or somebody else. It doesn't matter. Maloney's post didn't clear this up but, again, it doesn't matter.

Maloney was nominated by somebody and I can only assume that it was because he criticized Dan Rather, was later fired from his weekend job at KIRO, and then claimed that he was fired because he criticized Rather. KIRO denied that was the reason and some conservatives made an issue out of the firing. Soon after, somebody nominated Maloney for a Payne ethics award. He didn't win, but lists the fact that he was nominated as one of his accomplishments. I don't think it was an accomplishment.
 
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We'll try this again...

The Payne Awards allow ANYONE to nominate ANYONE. That means, I can also nominate myself. BUT...BUT...HERE IS THE BUT,

ANY...read this clear now...ANY NOMINATION MUST BE ACCOMPANIED WITH THE PROCESS BY WHICH THE NOMINATION IS PRESENTED.

That means that I have to give my reasons AND my work for which I wish to be nominated. The Payne Awards can REFUSE to accept the nomination if it doesn't meet their criteria. Apparently Maloney MET their criteria. So, his nomination is a valid one. In his email to me, he stated SOMEONE ELSE nominated him...If it is so important to some of you to find out who...contact The Payne Awards...that way you get it straight from the horses mouth. By the way...I have never read his blog...maybe I'll click over today to see what all the hubbub is about.

As far as blogs go, I don't think it is appropriate to start seperating "trained journalists" from "untrained journalists", because I believe many "trained journalists" can be just as clueless as "untrained journalists". And blogs are editorials anyway...they shouldn't be considered as a news outlet! Also, I think as far as blogs go, there are many diamonds in the rough. There are probably good bloggers with no journalist training that could do well as a journalist.

On a side note...Many times I have seen people call someone a liar simply because they disagree with the author. That's not appropriate. Also, sometimes information gathered may be inaccurate. That doesn't mean you call the author a liar. You may question their credibility for lack of research, but JUST because they relayed wrong info does not make them a liar, unless they are a willing participant in said lie (of course).

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> In his email to me, he stated SOMEONE ELSE
> nominated him...If it is so important to some of you to find
> out who...contact The Payne Awards...that way you get it
> straight from the horses mouth. By the way...I have never
> read his blog...maybe I'll click over today to see what all
> the hubbub is about.

That someone else nominated him was not in the part of his e-mail that you quoted, which is why there was an open question about it.

> As far as blogs go, I don't think it is appropriate to start
> seperating "trained journalists" from "untrained
> journalists", because I believe many "trained journalists"
> can be just as clueless as "untrained journalists".

I don't think blogs are a problem until they represent themselves as news sources. Anyone visiting this guy's site is going to see it as something well beyond "just his opinion." His declaration about the Payne Award alone makes it clear he is calling himself a journalist. I think it is totally appropriate to identify who is a professional journalist and who is just playing one. We already have too much blurring of the lines in the MSM (when George Stephanapolous became the host of ABC's This Week is a great illustration of people playing journalist - he's not.)

You are right that there can be clueless professional journalists, but having at least some line between what is presented as fact but is actually opinion and what is fact based on multiple sourcing and other recognized journalistic standards is necessary.

> And blogs are editorials anyway...they shouldn't be considered
> as a news outlet!

Tell that to the MSM media as well... their "blogosphere" nonsense has extended credibility based on mob-style blogging. The more people say it, the more credibility it supposedly has.
 
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>
> That someone else nominated him was not in the part of his
> e-mail that you quoted, which is why there was an open
> question about it.
>

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Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

When losing an argument, a good fallback position is the "sneer technique."
Say (condescendingly) that you're "amused" by the other person's "pathetic"
or "absurd" or "ridiculous" arguments -- and then swagger off, without looking
back. Anonymous
 
Re: BRIAN MALONEY RESPONDS

> When losing an argument, a good fallback position is the
> "sneer technique."
> Say (condescendingly) that you're "amused" by the other
> person's "pathetic"
> or "absurd" or "ridiculous" arguments -- and then swagger
> off, without looking
> back. Anonymous
>

Are you saying this about me? HA! I'm not losing any arguement, nor am I going anywhere. What I said was true. You will come on here, anonymously, and find fault with Radio Hosts but when the tables are turned and people find fault with you...you get offended. No sneer technique here. I'll go head to head with you all day. And yes..I am amused and yes your comments were rediculous. I doubt very many would disagree with me. Does that mean we are all sneering?


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