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Howard? back on FM? the speculation continues

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TowerBuzz

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What's with all the speculation about Howard Stern back on "the radio?"

The gossip continues to be that some sort of mega-deal's brewing among Sirius chief Mel Karmazin, Stern, and Mel's longtime associate Farid Suleman - who's running Citadel and about to take over the ABC properties.


A sales weasel friend of mine sent me this article from somewhere. The problem being that since Farid has pretty much made his bed with O and A can he now get into bed with howard without angering all of them?. Imagine it, PLJ flips to some male oriented format and Howard is back on teh air in New York on FM, just like O and A.....What a world it would be!.
 
Unless he changes his mind,Howard and the whole team are done with FM.Why would he want to go backward,his show has never been better, its at its prime,why censor it now? Thats crazy.He has spoke of huge offers and signing bonuses..but why? he has already been #1 for 20 yrs,why start over? Nothing to prove.He has said numerous times that he will never go back to FM,even if Sirius fails he will then retire on top.O and A will soon be #1 let them have the glory
 
Last I heard, Farid and Howard were not the best of friends. Not that that would necessarily influence a business relationship. Not sure what the backstory on that is, I just seem to remember hearing alot about a falling out between the two of them. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
 
Meaningless, Farid and O and A had a bit of a falling out after he convined them to stay at infinity and then left to run Citadel, it means nothing, it's all about bucks in the end. As for asking why would Hoard go bacK? several reasons: He's got a tiny audience, he's got to be steamed over the O and A deal where they have their cake and are eating it too, O and A are promoting XM EVERYDAY, the same thing that cbs sued him for doing with regard to sirius, Howard's ego has to be in turmoil knowing that O and A are doing THEIR show from his old studio on both Fm and Sat. Come on there are a million reasons why Howard would go back, as for his talking about huge dollar offers to go back? yeah Ive heard him say that too but how else was he going to save face in light of O and A's groundbreaking deal?. Yeah Howard has all the money he'll ever need, he had that BEFORE he left CBS but he no longer has the one thing he craves: He is no longer top of mind, he is to us because we're radio geeks but he is no longer on the mind of the general public, to an ego like Howard's that may be more important than anything.
 
OK, Business 101: Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs

5. Actualization - ding, ding, ding
4. Status (esteem) - done
3. Love/belonging - done
2. Safety - done
1. Physiological (biological needs) - done
 
Howard mentioned it this morning..apparently John Minelli from the Post is a Stern hater and constantly plants these false stories.He reiterated again,why after being #1 for 20 yrs and leaving on top,why would he wanna go back in time to censored radio.Sirius went from 800,000 to about 4.7 million subs since Howard came aboard,they didnt all come for the music.Also Gary and him discussed how the would never betray the listeners that followed him and now actually pay to hear him,kind of like the betrayal that O&A did to there fans.Funny how it never really made any noise in the press or got any backlash from fans....I would guess bcause there arent that many and the ones they have are not a passionate as Howards.Hopefully the question will die here,otherwise listen to Howard and tell me he has neber sounded better or happier and why would he give that up.If Sirius were to fail,he would retire he has said it many times.Just FYI Sirius's momentum has them hitting 6 million subs by Christmas.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Imagine it, PLJ flips to some male oriented format and Howard is back on teh air in New York on FM, just like O and A.....What a world it would be!.
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What a world it would be, indeed. A lot of people, myself included, would have loved to have Stern for morning drive and O&A for afternoons back in the good ol days. They would have made quite a formidable team.

I can only imagine what it would be like if both shows were back on FM. I think the hostility between the two shows could prove to be great radio. The hatred flows both ways, and personally, I love when either show just tears apart the other.

If this were to happen, I assume they would be in direct competition with eachother (I don't see Stern agreeing to anything other than mornings). It would be great to see both shows back on the FM dial.
 
Bogotaboy said:
Sirius went from 800,000 to about 4.7 million subs since Howard came aboard,they didnt all come for the music.
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Are you saying that he was responsible for 3.9 million subs? With all due respect, I don't see how that is possible. Forbes reported that at the end of 2004, Sirius was at 1.1 million subs (I can provide the link if you'd like). And I would also assume that during 2005, before Stern was on Sirius, that Sirius was adding subs not related to Stern, adding even more to that original 1.1m (and yes, I realize he was constantly plugging Sirius on FM, probably leading to some Stern generated subs). Assuming the 1.1m is correct, that's still 3.6m subs generated by Stern.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that just seems like an extraordinarily high number. Maybe someone else who is more familiar with the numbers can weigh in, but I just don't think that Stern was able to generate 3.6 million subs in less than a year.
 
Have you know idea the strength and momentum of Howards name alone.The fan base is not only loyal but intensely passionate.I am a share holder..i checked figures then and now...Christmas 2005 approx # of subs is just about 1.1 million.Here it is Sept 2006,not even one year and the # now is 4.7 million.Analysts watching the growth predict 6 million by years end.Is that all FM radio haters looking for music with no commercials? doubtful...anyway all answers to the back to FM questions are answered today on www.howardstern.com
 
I don't think 3+ million subs where just for Howard. 1 Million Maybe but not not all 3 Million Sirius was Growing anyway
 
Exactly NFL helped for certain. That's what I was saying he's just not talking to anything near his peak audience, it's got to be making him insane from the perfectionist Stern point of view. As for the shows never having been better? that's debateable. The guests certainly are not the same calibur as they were on FM because its not as large an audience to shill star of the moment's blockbuster film to, the bits? how many phony Sal and Richard calls does he run a day? more now than ever before, because they're unscensored now? maybe. Show's still good but I think it's lost some of it's lustre maybe because he has no competition, who knows.
 
[EDIT]! Getting a guy fired for writing an article? Way to go howie- for a guy who paints himself as Mr. Free Speech, you're full of it dude. Get over yourself already, face the reality that you're not relevant anymore, and enjoy your huge $irius paychecks.

He wasn't very funny over his last couple of years on Infinity/CBS, and when I actually heard his sirius show he was doing a farting contest- just more of the same old boring crap that got tired back in 1989. You're done dude, "it's over Johnny"...tell 'em Fred.

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...it's called "conflict of interest." If you think Rupert Murdoch's Post has any concerns about Howard Stern getting ticked off, you're crazy. J.M. was on O&A this morning, crying the blues so much you'd think his name was John Mayall. What a pitiful joke that was. At least now we know where the kayfabe went after Vince McMahon dumped it from the World Wrestling Federation -- it got distributed amongst radio consultants! ;-) ...
 
Howard's free speech diatribes are self serving crap. It was widely reported that CBS employees were forbidden from being critical of him, back in the day. Now he cries and whines when a reporter reprints data from other sources (which he credited), questioning his bringing Sirius 3 million subscribers, and he cries foul again when John Mainelli reports he may pull an Opie and Anthony by returning to terrestrial radio.

Remember, Stern was not 'fired' from Infinity. He chose not to renew his contract. He said it was because of censorship and that his show was suffering from his inability to be creative. Do you really think it had nothing to do with a 'better offer?' Stern is all about Stern, and couldn't give a damn about free speech IMO.

As far as conflict of interest goes, the Daily News reported 2 years ago that Mainelli was a consultant. No one cared then. A couple of his own NY Posts columns referenced it. No one at the NY Post cared then either. This was not about conflict of interest, Howard Stern is not about freedom of speech, and if it takes getting someone fired for Stern to become 'relevant' again, you can keep him and his tired, boring act.
 
markmywords said:
[EDIT]! Getting a guy fired for writing an article? Way to go howie- for a guy who paints himself as Mr. Free Speech, you're full of it dude. Get over yourself already, face the reality that you're not relevant anymore, and enjoy your huge $irius paychecks.

He wasn't very funny over his last couple of years on Infinity/CBS, and when I actually heard his sirius show he was doing a farting contest- just more of the same old boring crap that got tired back in 1989. You're done dude, "it's over Johnny"...tell 'em Fred.

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Free speech is one thing...libel and slander in print causing undo grief and fiancial distress is another.its about time these jounalists get called on what they do!!!!He must not have been that valuable of an employee if a ''so called non entity'' cam have him reprimanded and that was the papers choice to fire him Not Howards.You can hate Howard thats cool even Bambi had enemies
 
Hey Bogotaboy, go look up the terms "Libel" and "Slander"- nothing written in that article falls into either category. And what possible "financial distress" is it causing ol' howie? We should all be under the same kind of financial distress as him, i.e. "Do I buy the $100M yacht, another Hamptons estate, or more jewelry and cars to keep my trophy chick at my ugly side"?? Say what you want, but don't believe ANY of the hype about stern caring anything about Free Speech for the common-folk...
 
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