Ibiquity caught trying to pull a fast one!

[Play Freebird]

And second, the technically savvy and reasonably objective opinion is that it's a stretch to say that 10db is going to make a significant improvement in digital penetration, and consequently 6db is a non-starter. And even those modest increases, in the opinion of many, will increase interference both co- and adjacent-channel to unacceptable levels.

The adjacent-channel interference complaints resulting from the FM digital power increase may already have begun. See my post in this thread:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,121171.10.html

 

[Carmine5]

And second, the technically savvy and reasonably objective opinion is that it's a stretch to say that 10db is going to make a significant improvement in digital penetration, and consequently 6db is a non-starter. And even those modest increases, in the opinion of many, will increase interference both co- and adjacent-channel to unacceptable levels.

The adjacent-channel interference complaints resulting from the FM digital power increase may already have begun. See my post in this thread:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,121171.10.html

Curious. The FCC has blocked any public viewing of WPOC's latest application.

As you advised, the listener should send a copy of his complaint to the station AND the FCC. It could be an uncomfortable situation if that listener should suddenly show up on WPOC's doorstep, ask to see the public file and his letter isn't there.

Of course, the Commission needs this type of feedback if, in fact, the STA is to allow the station to experiment with the proposed power boost.

C5

 

[Carmine5]

Tom Ray?? Puh-LEEEAZE. The most shamelessly arrogant HD-AM promoter of them all. :

"Selling text advertising" via HD-AM? If WOR is actually selling anything specific to HD-AM, they're either giving the product away or grossly overcharging for it. Advertisers don't piddle away good cash American money on marketing vehicles with no appreciable audience - especially in this economy.

If you rip off your clients just to get a sale "today," you won't stay in business long - a basic tenet of ethical practices which is apparently lost on iBiquity, the Alliance and - if Tom Ray is to be believed - WOR Radio. Shame on Buckley if it's literally true. (Which I doubt.)

"Amanda Alexander?" She should have stuck to her hip-hop music career after her notorious dalliance with that most ex- of New York governors, Elliot Spitzer, and.....wait, I'm getting something in my ear in the mix-minus. Oh. Sorry. That was "Ashley Alexandra Dupree." (I always mix those two up.) In any case, so RW found somebody to write another one of those "I drove around Denver and the HD was wonderful!" puff-pieces? Kind of like the one written two years ago about an HD listening drive-around in Denver by Crawford engineering dweeb and stubborn HD promoter/apologist Cris Alexander. Hey, wait a minute! Two HD brag-o-grams about Denver listening by...Cris Alexander....AMANDA Alexander....hmm. I'm seeing a pattern here, aren't you?? ;D

("Daddy, when will the RW contributor check come? I want to go to the Apple store and get a new Nano..")

And the BMW - Clear Channel traffic via HD thing? Like I said on another blog: wake me up when BMW actually has TWO of these systems working in the field. Which have actual users. (Seems to me I just read that Microsoft has said, "no thanks, HD, we're sticking with analog for our traffic data transmission." Oops.)

Mr. Savage, you absolutely crack me up.

Amanda Alexander...Ashley Alexandra...totally understandable mistake.

I'm not sure how this text messaging system would work but I can't possibly process 50 messages a minute while driving let alone 500 .

And if it's a matter of typing in a location on a keypad for traffic information, forget it. I'm driving.

L.A. freeways are treacherous. You take your eyes off the road and you become a statistic, even if it's slow and go.

C5

 

[evolve991]

WPOC's audible fertilizer has been spilling over onto 92.9 and 93.3 much longer than HD has been around. I imagine the new frequency is just as pungent.

 

[clouseau]

In fairness, WMMR barely reaches the closest corner of Maryland. And it has been postulated IN THE SAME THREAD that the WMMR issue is being caused by construction of the new Comcast Building which is actually taller than the WMMR antenna. This is confirmed at least tangientally by a couple of South Jersey posters in this thread.

Later another poster talks about "Baltimore county". That's ever so slightly out of the service area. I'm sure you'd love to have this be some kind of smoking gun, but I doubt it has anything to do with Jersey. Or Baltimore. I'd suspect the "Antenna behind an office building" is a more likely cause.

Clouseau

 

[Play Freebird]

In fairness, WMMR barely reaches the closest corner of Maryland. And it has been postulated IN THE SAME THREAD that the WMMR issue is being caused by construction of the new Comcast Building which is actually taller than the WMMR antenna. This is confirmed at least tangientally by a couple of South Jersey posters in this thread.

Later another poster talks about "Baltimore county". That's ever so slightly out of the service area. I'm sure you'd love to have this be some kind of smoking gun, but I doubt it has anything to do with Jersey. Or Baltimore. I'd suspect the "Antenna behind an office building" is a more likely cause.

Except that the Comcast Center is two blocks NORTH of WMMR's transmitter but the complaints seem to be coming from south Jersey and northeast Maryland, where there's no shadowing.

From experience in this market, I know that signals from Baltimore/Washington often propagate much better than expected into south Jersey. The proximity to a large body of water along that path has a lot to do with this effect. So WPOC's upper digital sideband can't be ruled out as the source of interference to WMMR quite yet.

There are a few stations in this market experimenting with increased digital power and all the proof I need of that is on the spectrum analyzer. WMGK was turned up earlier this month and WYSP has been up more recently. (This can also be confirmed by checking the CDBS application records for recent digital "experimental permit" applications with no further infomation)

As most of us expected, the extra power does improve digital coverage, but it's not a cure-all. I've found there all still spots within the predicted 70 dBu contours of these stations where I lose digital lock while driving (due to terrain and building blockage) and "stoplight fades" are still an annoying problem. These are areas with a lot of multipath, and I've observed that the analog component (the fallback signal) suffers from the increased digital injection on either side.

In short, when you read glowing reports from iBiquity, NAB, and the other IBOC proponents about the wonderful benefits of this plan, just remember to apply a -20 dB "hyperbole correction factor" to get the true story.