Can someone tell me what brand / model the console is being used at this station [Q106FM] - thanks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEj_ZkQ-j0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQEj_ZkQ-j0
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ID this console?
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I put Serial #1 of that thing in service many moons ago. A solid performer, unbreakable (I've stood on it) and pretty much intuitive for the talent to run.
I wonder will there be a digital equal in acceptance to the PR&E stuff.
I wonder will there be a digital equal in acceptance to the PR&E stuff.
I used to work for B-100 and Q-106 was a great addition to San Diego radio and their timing of bringing a mainstream CHR against a heritage Hot AC certainly shook up the 12+ ratings. Competition is a good thing.
While at B-100 and its AM KFMB, I had to endure their on-air consoles (ADM) and mixed bag of ITC 99s using a mixture of Scotch Carts, AA4s and AA3s. The AM was a full service AM Stereo station that aired music, talk and sports so keeping phase in check with this mixed bag of carts was a fun chore.
Q-106 audio was always better than B-100s (brighter and more separation) and if I remember correctly they even converted to PR&E Tomcats in 1989 using Dolby NR and with the optical reader to run some carts at 15 ips and some at 7.5 ips. This is really before Denon made its mark in broadcast quality CD players.
While at B-100 and its AM KFMB, I had to endure their on-air consoles (ADM) and mixed bag of ITC 99s using a mixture of Scotch Carts, AA4s and AA3s. The AM was a full service AM Stereo station that aired music, talk and sports so keeping phase in check with this mixed bag of carts was a fun chore.
Q-106 audio was always better than B-100s (brighter and more separation) and if I remember correctly they even converted to PR&E Tomcats in 1989 using Dolby NR and with the optical reader to run some carts at 15 ips and some at 7.5 ips. This is really before Denon made its mark in broadcast quality CD players.
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The Beave
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stha said:This is the classic PR&E BMX-III. But I have no idea of what kind of drug the DJ is using
He is correct.. It's a Pacific Recorders & Engineering BMX-3
It's still a workhorse in many signals nationally.
>Was that at WOWO?
No, was in Atlanta. When the station moved, Broadcaster's bough tthe used equipment including that board. I don't know where it went. It was in excellent condition. In point of fact, if you can find an old PR&E brochure for the consoles, that set of studios appears in it.
No, was in Atlanta. When the station moved, Broadcaster's bough tthe used equipment including that board. I don't know where it went. It was in excellent condition. In point of fact, if you can find an old PR&E brochure for the consoles, that set of studios appears in it.
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strangelove
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A couple of BMX-II consoles (serial numbers 202 and 203) are still doing the things the designers probably never envisioned at WRGP in Miami. 27 years and counting!
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BMX
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For clarification: WOWO had serial 001 (and 002) of the original BMX consoles from 1978 - Still on-air last I heard. Serial 001 of the BMX-III may well have gone to Atlanta. The -III series was out about 10 years later.
I had IIs in Birmingham. When we built Atlanta, the III was coming out, so it got the nod. We got the first one. There weren't a lot of the BMX made, and the modules weren't compatible with the II. There were some in Jefferson City, Mo a while back. I suspect the IIs outsold the original and the IIIs by a wide margin.
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strangelove
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Understandably. They crammed a lot of great features into the II's, you could put them into just about any station big or small and have a tight operation. Plenty of inputs to go around but not confusing to the operator, durable, Penny and Giles fader assemblies that you could clean in a drinking fountain... yes, this is bordering on worship
Well, if you had the IIs with the differential output amps, the sound was phenominal, close to the III. The transformer coupled ones weren't quite as good, although given today's processing, I doubt the difference is noticeable. All of them were bulletproof.
I'll admit that I'm extremely intimate with these consoles and say that I'm completely biased. I spent a few summers at the factory in the 80s and one summer personally built power supplies for the BMX IIs (I think they went to WXYT in Detroit). Of course I fell in love with radio stations, not factories and wanted to be a DJ. Went off to college and board op'd at a major market AM News-Talk station that had a slew of BMX Is, BMX IIs and an ABX (at an RKO station). I was hooked on working on real consoles instead of the ADMs I was used to at KFMB.
A certain person whom I'm related to and also involved with PR&E, used to have plenty of debates with me over what was better of the various models. Personally my favorite is the Radiomixer. Tech Program Director types like me loved all of the features and adjustments you could have made with the BMX III. But of course as I had to actively manage real people who only knew on/off and faders (sometimes meters). The RMX was a perfect combination of everything you would need for a station that either ran 24/7 with carts/CDs and todays automation systems plus have the coolest phone mix-minus bus.
Thanks for all of you bringing up the memories,
Jeff Williams
A certain person whom I'm related to and also involved with PR&E, used to have plenty of debates with me over what was better of the various models. Personally my favorite is the Radiomixer. Tech Program Director types like me loved all of the features and adjustments you could have made with the BMX III. But of course as I had to actively manage real people who only knew on/off and faders (sometimes meters). The RMX was a perfect combination of everything you would need for a station that either ran 24/7 with carts/CDs and todays automation systems plus have the coolest phone mix-minus bus.
Thanks for all of you bringing up the memories,
Jeff Williams
Actually, my fave if price is a factor is the Dwave.
In the analog stuff, though, the III/AMX produced erections amongst our program people for many many moons. First time I ever made the pilgrimage out to Carlsbad was to watch our stuff (BMX III, AMX, and an ABX configured for four track) come up on test. And get Sandy Berenics to buy me lunch. If I met you on that trip, Hi again.
Assuming you refer to Jack, a couple or three questrions...
1. Where is he these days, and what's he up to?
2. When Porsche threw in the towel on the aviation division (an unfortunate happening in my opinion) which option did he take?
3. Any chance you might get him to participate here?
A visionary in our business, and a man whose insights are valuable.
In the analog stuff, though, the III/AMX produced erections amongst our program people for many many moons. First time I ever made the pilgrimage out to Carlsbad was to watch our stuff (BMX III, AMX, and an ABX configured for four track) come up on test. And get Sandy Berenics to buy me lunch. If I met you on that trip, Hi again.
Assuming you refer to Jack, a couple or three questrions...
1. Where is he these days, and what's he up to?
2. When Porsche threw in the towel on the aviation division (an unfortunate happening in my opinion) which option did he take?
3. Any chance you might get him to participate here?
A visionary in our business, and a man whose insights are valuable.
Hi Jeff - I think we did meet back when you visited Carlsbad. In fact I think I had to pick you guys up at the lunch you were referring to.
I know this is a public forum, if I bore everybody I'm sorry.
To answer your questions regarding my parents, Jack and Ellyn (co-founders of PR&E)- Here's the answers:
1. Just a couple years ago Dad officially retired (not really, just as busy as ever) and both of my parents moved to Big Bear Lake, CA, a mountain community within San Bernardino County. They are both very involved with Real Estate, their investments and 4 granddaughters.
2. In 2004 he had a choice with his airplane, sell it back to Porsche/Mooney or have it modified for a Continental Engine. He chose to take it to Modworks in Punta Gorda, FL to have a Continental engine and an avionics upgrade. Sadly soon after his plane was modified, Modworks was destroyed in a hurricane and the company no longer exists. Trust me, he likes the additional power of the new engine and range of its bigger fuel tanks, but misses the engineering beauty of the Porsche engine.
3. About a year ago a string of discussions showed up on the broadcast.net board about the history of PR&E. I forwarded the links to the discussion board to have him reply to correct some misconceptions. He did along with receiving some contacts from some old friends. I'll forward him the link to this board.
Both of us talk about the industry regularly, especially since I'm still knee deep in it on the Operations/Programming side of things.
I know this is a public forum, if I bore everybody I'm sorry.
To answer your questions regarding my parents, Jack and Ellyn (co-founders of PR&E)- Here's the answers:
1. Just a couple years ago Dad officially retired (not really, just as busy as ever) and both of my parents moved to Big Bear Lake, CA, a mountain community within San Bernardino County. They are both very involved with Real Estate, their investments and 4 granddaughters.
2. In 2004 he had a choice with his airplane, sell it back to Porsche/Mooney or have it modified for a Continental Engine. He chose to take it to Modworks in Punta Gorda, FL to have a Continental engine and an avionics upgrade. Sadly soon after his plane was modified, Modworks was destroyed in a hurricane and the company no longer exists. Trust me, he likes the additional power of the new engine and range of its bigger fuel tanks, but misses the engineering beauty of the Porsche engine.
3. About a year ago a string of discussions showed up on the broadcast.net board about the history of PR&E. I forwarded the links to the discussion board to have him reply to correct some misconceptions. He did along with receiving some contacts from some old friends. I'll forward him the link to this board.
Both of us talk about the industry regularly, especially since I'm still knee deep in it on the Operations/Programming side of things.
Before we both get pointed emails, I ain't Jeff.
That was Katz Broadcasting when we built Birmingham and Atlanta. Your Dad and Soft - Hearted John (Marino, lately of the NAB) designed the Atlanta setup on a couple of napkins in New York one evening after a meeting. PR&E supplied the furniture, consoles, Tomcats,and vendor gear. It was a showplace. And the guy who engraved all the switch tops I bet STILL cusses me, cos I had them make all the ON buttons yellow instead of red. The ABX even survived a coke down the innards, with only one piece of the backplane having to be replaced. I could have repaired it, but it was only three months old, I didn't want a bunch of buss bar over the eroded places in the runs. And after replacing it, I understood how the boards were so quiet ansd stable. You could arc weld with the power supply iof you wanted.
I suspect if the FAA had left them alone, Porsche would of gotten more power out of their motor than Teledyne. Supposedly an FAA guy told one of the German engineers that fater all, Avco Lycoming had produced 50 thousand opposed engined over the years. To which the German replied, "Ve built that many last year,."
That was Katz Broadcasting when we built Birmingham and Atlanta. Your Dad and Soft - Hearted John (Marino, lately of the NAB) designed the Atlanta setup on a couple of napkins in New York one evening after a meeting. PR&E supplied the furniture, consoles, Tomcats,and vendor gear. It was a showplace. And the guy who engraved all the switch tops I bet STILL cusses me, cos I had them make all the ON buttons yellow instead of red. The ABX even survived a coke down the innards, with only one piece of the backplane having to be replaced. I could have repaired it, but it was only three months old, I didn't want a bunch of buss bar over the eroded places in the runs. And after replacing it, I understood how the boards were so quiet ansd stable. You could arc weld with the power supply iof you wanted.
I suspect if the FAA had left them alone, Porsche would of gotten more power out of their motor than Teledyne. Supposedly an FAA guy told one of the German engineers that fater all, Avco Lycoming had produced 50 thousand opposed engined over the years. To which the German replied, "Ve built that many last year,."
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Fenway Frank
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I remember JoJo "Cookin" Kincaid from Boston. Although it was Dale Dorman on Kiss that did the Friday 5:00 Weekend kickoff with "Workin for the Weekend" by Loverboy. Then again I am sure that are lots more that have done that gag. Sure was fun to watch that video though, how about another espresso?
For those that knew and loved those Old Carlsbad guys, it appears that Axia is the new incarnation of PR&E. A bunch of the old PR+E Guys are there now. Let's see, Mike Dosch (former COO), Mike Uhl (Sales), Marty Sacks (Sales), Clark Novack (marketing) and some others too. Can another RMX be far behind? Inquiring minds want to know!
For those that knew and loved those Old Carlsbad guys, it appears that Axia is the new incarnation of PR&E. A bunch of the old PR+E Guys are there now. Let's see, Mike Dosch (former COO), Mike Uhl (Sales), Marty Sacks (Sales), Clark Novack (marketing) and some others too. Can another RMX be far behind? Inquiring minds want to know!
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