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Ideal Hosts to Save Air America

I think the problem with Air America is the talk show hosts. Most of them are not that entertaining.
If it would be possible, here is my suggestion for on-air hosts.

Mornings - All team members from the Phillips Phile from WTKS.
Mid Morning- Bob Lassiter (use to be at WFLA and WLS).
Afternoons - Randi Rhodes or Ed Schultz.
Evenings - Rachel Meddow and Michael Medved. They are great together on CNN's Reliable Sources. They provide a good balance on both sides.
Late Night - Sam Seder

Weekends

Alex Bennett from Sirius
Jay Thomas from Sirus
 
You won't be hearing Bob Lassiter on Air America. He died about a month ago. :'(

I have to wonder if Phillips will become an option when the folks at TKS will decide that "the Phile" isn't working for their 18-34 target demo anymore.
 
I think the problem with Air America is the talk show hosts. Most of them are not that entertaining.

Not that your observation wasn't correct several months ago, it's gone way beyond that now. Changing hosts on Air America now would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Nothing can save Air America now. It has about as much chance of being around in a year as the UPN television network, the XFL, or the Oldsmobile.

There might well be a new all-liberal radio talk network arise to fill the niche that Air America attempted to create and fill. And maybe those hosts will be a part of it. But that new network won't be called "Air America", and none of the people associated with Air America will have visible positions within the new network.
 
smedge2006 said:
You won't be hearing Bob Lassiter on Air America. He died about a month ago. :'(

well, thats one way to avoid that trainwreck ;)
 
jasper933 said:
IAfternoons - Randi Rhodes or Ed Schultz.

Most AAR stations seem to carry both, usually with Randi getting shafted into a tape delayed slot.

Evenings - Rachel Meddow and Michael Medved. They are great together on CNN's Reliable Sources.

There is no way in the world Medved is going to do this, and nobody wants to hear his hand-wringing anyway. His performance on Reliable Sources is more bipartisan than his morality tales on his Salem Witch Trials Network radio show.
 
Radio_Realist said:
There might well be a new all-liberal radio talk network arise to fill the niche that Air America attempted to create and fill.

"Attempted to create and fill?" What are talking about. Two and one half years ago there were no liberal talk stations. Now there are about 75 -- most of them AAR affiliates. That's sounds to me like more than an attempt.
 
Two and one half years ago there were no liberal talk stations.

That's funny. Ten years ago, I was listening to liberal talk radio hosts.

Or maybe I only thought they were liberal. Maybe they were actually progressive.
 
Radio_Realist said:
Two and one half years ago there were no liberal talk stations.

That's funny. Ten years ago, I was listening to liberal talk radio hosts.

Or maybe I only thought they were liberal. Maybe they were actually progressive.

I think he meant there were no all liberal talk stations, not liberal/progressive hosts.

would he be correct? was there no full time L/P Talk stations before AAR crawled out of the sewer?
 
would he be correct?

Maybe so, maybe no. There was a long, long time when talk format stations carried programs, not just 24/7 programming. There were a great many liberal talk hosts working for many years, but whether or not there were stations who only had liberal hosts, I do not know.

For that matter, most of the talk stations I'm familiar with today on which conservatives dominate still have some slots in which there are hosts who do not specialize in conservative political talk.

I'll wager there are relatively few stations on the air who have nothing but conservative or liberal talk 24/7.
 
Radio_Realist says "I'll wager there are relatively few stations on the air who have nothing but conservative or liberal talk 24/7."

Though nearly all stations do, indeed, break up the day with news, traffic, weather & sports casts--and some carry sports p-b-p, the most common core programming lineup of talk stations across America for the past 20 years or so has been radical rightwing talk. Very few stations will risk pissing off their P-1 listeners by slapping some liberal talker on there. After all, their P-1's have guns!

The stable liberal/progressive talk "network" is Jones. Tom Athens, founder of Democracy Radio, folded the DR tent last year and brought his two kick-ass talents, Ed Schultz (3-7P, ET) & Stephanie Miller (9A-N) into Jones. They've since added Bill Press for mornings (6-9A, ET). Look for Randi Rhodes to join them shortly, and maybe Thom Hartmann.

AA tried to run a national radio network on a shoestring. It didn't work. Setting up shop in Midtown Manhattan was the first clue that maybe these guys hadn't thought it all the way through...
 
evnlee said:
I think he meant there were no all liberal talk stations, not liberal/progressive hosts.

would he be correct? was there no full time L/P Talk stations before AAR crawled out of the sewer?

Yes, I think he (me) meant that there were no (i.e. zero,nada, zilch) liberal talk stations two and one half years ago and that now there are over 75. I don't know what your buddy RR was blovating about since there were no liberal talk stations ten years ago also and only a handful of hosts. Your comment about AAR "crawling out of the sewer" seems to suggest that you don't approve of liberal talk. In any case, AAR will probably be out of business in a few months. That's no big deal. Clear Channel may also be out business.
 
barooosk said:
Your comment about AAR "crawling out of the sewer" seems to suggest that you don't approve of liberal talk. In any case, AAR will probably be out of business in a few months. That's no big deal. Clear Channel may also be out business.

Baroosk, did you miss your trip to CVS again? ::)

I'll say it one more time for you: I like Stephanie Miller, but I despise AAR. Maybe I should have said 'returned to the sewer' to be more accurate.

And if you think Clear Channel will go the way of AAR ( bankrupt ) , you are living in a fantasy world. But, those AAR myrmidons have already proven that. Isn;t there a petition somewhere you should be signing to save some poor, underperforming Err Amerika affiliate? ;)
 
Air America's dissolution won't kill liberal talk radio. Many of those stations are already carrying Jones' Stephanie Miller & Ed Schultz, so they'll just add Bill Press in mornings from Jones and cherry pick syndication from Jerry Springer, Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes and the weekend stuff that's out there. The smartest ones will pick up Amy Goodman's daily (one-hour) Democracy Now--a great show whose distributor doesn't care whether a station is commercial or public. Operationally, shifting to Jones + other syndicators is no big deal. It's still plug-and-play programming. The biggest difference, I suppose, is that the programming is generally better than the AAR lineup. Oh, and Jones ain't going out of business any time soon.

BTW, us progressive types do owe a big thanks to Al Franken, whose celebrity brought a lot of attention to AAR and played a key role in launching the liberal talk radio format. No, he wasn't/isn't as as strong a radio talent as Steph, Ed, Randi, Thom or Jerry (or maybe even you & I), so the act was uneven from day to day. But he got the ball rolling. If you're reading this from Minnesota, you can thank him by voting for him in 2008.
 
us progressive types do owe a big thanks to Al Franken, whose celebrity brought a lot of attention to AAR and played a key role in launching the liberal talk radio format.

And what about all the liberal talk radio hosts who were on the air long before Al Franken came along?
 
Radio_Realist asks "And what about all the liberal talk radio hosts who were on the air long before Al Franken came along?"

Like Randi Rhodes, Ed Schultz & Thom Hartmann? All talented people whose celebrity didn't get much beyond WPB, Fargo and Burlington/Portland.

What Franken brought to the table was a national reputation earned over decades in TV and movies. Never an "A-List" celebrity, but very well known--so his presence brought the spotlight to Air America. Jerry Springer brought the same kind of celebrity/notoriety, but was a latecomer.

Franken helped progressive talk radio generate tons of national PR that Rand, Ed & Thom (or a dozen other local talkers) could never have gained. Most importantly, now that progressive talk is established, it can continue to develop whether AA survives or not.

To repeat: JRN is the future of progressive talk.
 
What Franken brought to the table was a national reputation earned over decades in TV and movies.

So, being well-known as a has-been, third-rate comedian and Saturday Night Live writer who never made it past the second tier "and with" list after the names of the stars, and who wrote a few rather thin comedy books, somehow added gravitas to the world of liberal talk radio?

Franken helped progressive talk radio generate tons of national PR

True, but most of it was negative. The basic message of signing Al Franken was "here's the best we can find, which ain't saying much".

To repeat: JRN is the future of progressive talk.

But what is the future of liberal talk?
 
If you're trying to market a radio network, why would you care about gravitas, whatever that is. Franken is somebody almost everyone of a certain age had heard of due to his many years at SNL, his comedy movie work, and especially his bestselling, catchily titled, political books.

So from a PR standpoint, hiring Franken was one of only a few good decisions ever to come out of AAR. Others I can think of
1] Hiring Randi Rhodes
2] Syndicating Thom Hartmann
3) Running a special on election night.

Franken's reputation got them huge national publicity, which helped them get as many affiliates as they did in spite of AAR's horrendous record otherwise, under the control of a string of different people:

1] Announcing you're going to buy an entire network of stations when you can't afford even one.
2] Renting your way onto the air in major markets. Either your rent goes through the roof, or you lose your dial position.
3] Lying about your financing, scaring potential partners, employees, or advertisers.
4] Hiring people with no radio experience, to program and operate a radio network.
5] Hiring radio hosts with no radio experience. Just because you're articulate doesn't mean you're ready to do radio talk.
6] Paying those people salaries only exceeded by the most experienced, successful national talkers.
7] Hiring huge support staffs for some of those people, like a radio version of what is done in TV.
8] Offering a morning show that often sounds like it is a local New York show. (Morning Sedition.)
9] When that show fails replacing it with nothing in particular, just a couple of people given a couple of hours a day each.
10) When THAT fails, giving the morning show to the "not ready for terrestrial radio" club, the Young Turks.
11) Hiring hosts that have other ongoing interests that take time from the radio show. Call-in talk radio requires tons of outside reading.
12) Sending affiliates reruns or lame shows at night and weekends, when competing talk stations run their weakest shows, times when no one else on the local airwaves is discussing ongoing news, times when you have the best chance for people to sample your network.
13) Running a liberal network and never finding or hiring an African-American call-in talk host for general political talk.
14) Never coming up with a good local promotion strategy that low-budget local affiliates could plug into their stations. AAR should have run a promo factory so that stations' computers could pull localized promos right off an AAR ftp site onto the air.
15) Running a format that potentially appeals to listeners that are younger and more female than other radio talk, but only getting that format onto FM in one station in a rated market (Madison, who ironically just dropped the format despite okay ratings), and not coming up with a promotion strategy to deal with the fact that much of the target audience not only doesn't listen to AM, but in many cases has NEVER listened to AM, and in a few cases may not even know that AM is available on most of the radios they own.
16) Not coming up with an off-network promotion strategy at all.

I'm sure there's a few other aspects of running the network I forgot to mention. If you don't have enough info to form your opinion on any of them, your best bet is to assume that AAR handled it wrong.
 
There are about 100 PT stations, not 75. And NO station will clear "Democracy Now!". Ugh. Not only does it have an NPR meets islamofascist feel to it, it has no avails for news or... more importantly.. spots! :59:50 of content. Maybe some more PT beg-a-thons?
 
LOL!!! Yeah, yeah, she's a radical all right. But DN would/could act as a magnet for core leftwingers. They turn into P-1s. No avails? So it's "underwritten" like pubradio.

Nice list, exradio. Well said; they [EDIT] it up almost every way imaginable. Truth is, it could've been run profitably if anyone involved had any practical radio and/or network experience--especially experience running on a tight budget.

The future? Some bright radio execs saddled with low-performing full-power rigs are bound to notice how libradio took mostly dead sticks and brought them back to life again--a near impossible task with lousy AM signals pulling zeros. Progressive talk turned the zeros into ones, twos, threes and more. It's how nearly all of today's major formats started... 30, 40, 50 years ago. Daytimers, rimshots...

But the biggest obstacle to liberal talk's future is the political persuasion of most radio companies. They think of themselves as being in "business"--even the little guys getting hammered by the oligopolies. And they're looking at the progressives from the other side of the political divide.



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