Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...)
> > My suggestion of WBIX was just an example, I have no
> inside
> > info and I'll take your statement that it's a no go. There
>
> > appear to be several other stations that get little or no
> > ratings that might clear more programs in the line-up for
> > AAR. Would the non-existant ratings at WTTT actually go
> down
> > if they played AAR (5 kW day and night with a decent
> > pattern)? I doubt it. I know there is much more to it,
> > including agendas of station mangers and owners,
> > advertisers, etc. I was not suggesting AAR try to do
> > anything but look at other stations in Boston and Mass in
> > general to play their programming (typical barter
> operation)
> > once the contract with CC expires, especially if CC drops
> > them from 1200- no buy outs or LMA's.
> >
> > For full disclosure, I do not care for the way CC has
> > handled 1200/1430. They play Eddie, delay Rhodes, play
> > Springer delayed at night and forget Majority report and
> > Mike Malloy. Even if I could pick them up at night I
> > wouldn't listen and I bet most Boston Liberals feel the
> > same. They have programmed it beautifully for Kansas, not
> > Boston.
> >
> You're either kidding about AAR on WTTT or you are a total
> naif!
I hope not! I noted in my post that their are other Agendas then just ratings but there must be a decent station in the market that would consider going to AAR if CC drops it and AAR approaches them. Seems logical that a station like WBIX or WTTT (not them but *like* them in that they are smaller and have little or no ratings) would be interested in getting some ratings for their advertisers. It must be very difficult for the salespeople at radio stations to pick up a copy of the Boston Phoenix and start making cold calls.
WTTT (as well as WEZE and WROL in this market and 100
> or more other stations nationwide) is owned by Salem, the
> most ultra-right-wing of all major group owners in the US.
> (And if you know about the other major groups, you know that
> that's a VERY strong statement!) Salem's founders and
> primary principals, Mssrs Epperson and Atsinger, are
> graduates of Bob Jones University(!) The company's forte is
> Christian formats--right-wing talk, and the network that
> distributes all of the programs that WTTT carries are
> relatively recent additions. Salem is in the talk-format
> business as an idological thing more than as a means of
> making a lot of money, but Salem never does ANYTHING that
> loses money for very long. Financially, the whole company is
> extremely well run and they appear dedicated to AM. I am
> convinced that the talk network and WTTT aren't losing
> money. Despite the idological motivation, the corporate
> owners wouldn't stand for that.
>
> As for WKOXKS, the DO carry Majority Report--on delay
> (Tuesday through Saturday mornings from 1:00 AM to 4:00 AM).
> With Springer as the lead-in, that's gotta be a winner,
> especially considering the fact that the program can be
> heard only in MetroWest and the near North Shore ;>(
They (MR) aren't listed on the website and I can't get either station after dark. Just more examples that CC doesn't get it.
>
> BTW, Ed Schultz's syndicator, Jones Radio Networks, will NOT
> place the program on any station that does not air it live
> in its entirety, which explains why Randi Rhodes is on delay
> on all CCU stations that carry both her program and
> Schultz's. What makes no sense to me, though, is why the
> stations that carry both shows don't carry Rhodes' 6:00 to
> 7:00 PM (Eastern) hour live. I've got a hunch that this is
> Randi's preference. If she really believes that more than a
> few people listen to the entire four hours and would be
> missing the point if they heard the last hour first, she is
> a heck of a lot less astute a broadcaster than most of her
> listeners believe her to be.
>
Well listeners tend to be true belivers so I wouldn't trust their opinions without a grain of salt. I don't know how much choice she has and I think Eddie is downright aweful. Not many listen right now becasue the stations are running at 1000 watts a peice after 4:15 anyway.
> > My suggestion of WBIX was just an example, I have no
> inside
> > info and I'll take your statement that it's a no go. There
>
> > appear to be several other stations that get little or no
> > ratings that might clear more programs in the line-up for
> > AAR. Would the non-existant ratings at WTTT actually go
> down
> > if they played AAR (5 kW day and night with a decent
> > pattern)? I doubt it. I know there is much more to it,
> > including agendas of station mangers and owners,
> > advertisers, etc. I was not suggesting AAR try to do
> > anything but look at other stations in Boston and Mass in
> > general to play their programming (typical barter
> operation)
> > once the contract with CC expires, especially if CC drops
> > them from 1200- no buy outs or LMA's.
> >
> > For full disclosure, I do not care for the way CC has
> > handled 1200/1430. They play Eddie, delay Rhodes, play
> > Springer delayed at night and forget Majority report and
> > Mike Malloy. Even if I could pick them up at night I
> > wouldn't listen and I bet most Boston Liberals feel the
> > same. They have programmed it beautifully for Kansas, not
> > Boston.
> >
> You're either kidding about AAR on WTTT or you are a total
> naif!
I hope not! I noted in my post that their are other Agendas then just ratings but there must be a decent station in the market that would consider going to AAR if CC drops it and AAR approaches them. Seems logical that a station like WBIX or WTTT (not them but *like* them in that they are smaller and have little or no ratings) would be interested in getting some ratings for their advertisers. It must be very difficult for the salespeople at radio stations to pick up a copy of the Boston Phoenix and start making cold calls.
WTTT (as well as WEZE and WROL in this market and 100
> or more other stations nationwide) is owned by Salem, the
> most ultra-right-wing of all major group owners in the US.
> (And if you know about the other major groups, you know that
> that's a VERY strong statement!) Salem's founders and
> primary principals, Mssrs Epperson and Atsinger, are
> graduates of Bob Jones University(!) The company's forte is
> Christian formats--right-wing talk, and the network that
> distributes all of the programs that WTTT carries are
> relatively recent additions. Salem is in the talk-format
> business as an idological thing more than as a means of
> making a lot of money, but Salem never does ANYTHING that
> loses money for very long. Financially, the whole company is
> extremely well run and they appear dedicated to AM. I am
> convinced that the talk network and WTTT aren't losing
> money. Despite the idological motivation, the corporate
> owners wouldn't stand for that.
>
> As for WKOXKS, the DO carry Majority Report--on delay
> (Tuesday through Saturday mornings from 1:00 AM to 4:00 AM).
> With Springer as the lead-in, that's gotta be a winner,
> especially considering the fact that the program can be
> heard only in MetroWest and the near North Shore ;>(
They (MR) aren't listed on the website and I can't get either station after dark. Just more examples that CC doesn't get it.
>
> BTW, Ed Schultz's syndicator, Jones Radio Networks, will NOT
> place the program on any station that does not air it live
> in its entirety, which explains why Randi Rhodes is on delay
> on all CCU stations that carry both her program and
> Schultz's. What makes no sense to me, though, is why the
> stations that carry both shows don't carry Rhodes' 6:00 to
> 7:00 PM (Eastern) hour live. I've got a hunch that this is
> Randi's preference. If she really believes that more than a
> few people listen to the entire four hours and would be
> missing the point if they heard the last hour first, she is
> a heck of a lot less astute a broadcaster than most of her
> listeners believe her to be.
>
Well listeners tend to be true belivers so I wouldn't trust their opinions without a grain of salt. I don't know how much choice she has and I think Eddie is downright aweful. Not many listen right now becasue the stations are running at 1000 watts a peice after 4:15 anyway.