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I'll say THIS about WDJO

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DJJack

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*If*...and I say *if* it fails...it sure won't be for a lack of effort. I just listened to them testing out the microphones and equipment <complete with some test runs of the new jingles> and it sounds pretty damn nice. I wonder if they'd let me help out for free. I'd have a blast, and could update my tape/CD.

My regular job shift starts at two pm today. How sucky is THAT???
 
That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> *If*...and I say *if* it fails...it sure won't be for a lack
> of effort. I just listened to them testing out the
> microphones and equipment and it sounds pretty damn nice. I
> wonder if they'd let me help out for free. I'd have a blast,
> and could update my tape/CD.
>
> My regular job shift starts at two pm today. How sucky is
> THAT???


As song #9995 approached around 1:45PM today…O.M.G!...The dreaded link or STL failure. Murphy’s Law couldn’t be more inconveniently poised. The carrier was on, and for the following 15 minutes all one could hear on 1160 were the desperate pops, clicks, and buzz caused by a frantic engineering staff. Imagine the control room demeanor. But by 3:15, the “Good Guys” were back in their genuine first-rate form. ‘Just get a bunch of sixty-something pros back together in the studio, and the “magic” whops ‘ya up the side. I’ve heard countless FM oldies outlets with their rule-loving corporate geniuses at the controls over the years…Sure, they could transmit stereo--but NONE could muster the magic I heard this afternoon on WDJO. Being on the air is second (make that FIRST) nature to those guys. Even in the face of a technical meltdown, they were “on fire” with excitement minutes later…and DAMN—you could hear it over the air! You go-go-go ‘DJO!
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> > *If*...and I say *if* it fails...it sure won't be for a
> lack
> > of effort. I just listened to them testing out the
> > microphones and equipment and it sounds pretty damn nice.
> I
> > wonder if they'd let me help out for free. I'd have a
> blast,
> > and could update my tape/CD.
> >
> > My regular job shift starts at two pm today. How sucky is
> > THAT???
>
>
> As song #9995 approached around 1:45PM today…O.M.G!...The
> dreaded link or STL failure. Murphy’s Law couldn’t be more
> inconveniently poised. The carrier was on, and for the
> following 15 minutes all one could hear on 1160 were the
> desperate pops, clicks, and buzz caused by a frantic
> engineering staff. Imagine the control room demeanor. But
> by 3:15, the “Good Guys” were back in their genuine
> first-rate form. ‘Just get a bunch of sixty-something pros
> back together in the studio, and the “magic” whops ‘ya up
> the side. I’ve heard countless FM oldies outlets with their
> rule-loving corporate geniuses at the controls over the
> years…Sure, they could transmit stereo--but NONE could
> muster the magic I heard this afternoon on WDJO. Being on
> the air is second (make that FIRST) nature to those guys.
> Even in the face of a technical meltdown, they were “on
> fire” with excitement minutes later…and DAMN—you could hear
> it over the air! You go-go-go ‘DJO!
>

Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs. Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's (pre-Beatles). YAWN!

A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative programming. They will go ballistic on "corporate" radio formats, and yet they get a woodie when something as tired and worn out as WDJO hits the air. Go figure.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> > > *If*...and I say *if* it fails...it sure won't be for a
> > lack
> > > of effort. I just listened to them testing out the
> > > microphones and equipment and it sounds pretty damn
> nice.
> > I
> > > wonder if they'd let me help out for free. I'd have a
> > blast,
> > > and could update my tape/CD.
> > >
> > > My regular job shift starts at two pm today. How sucky
> is
> > > THAT???
> >
> >
> > As song #9995 approached around 1:45PM today…O.M.G!...The
> > dreaded link or STL failure. Murphy’s Law couldn’t be
> more
> > inconveniently poised. The carrier was on, and for the
> > following 15 minutes all one could hear on 1160 were the
> > desperate pops, clicks, and buzz caused by a frantic
> > engineering staff. Imagine the control room demeanor.
> But
> > by 3:15, the “Good Guys” were back in their genuine
> > first-rate form. ‘Just get a bunch of sixty-something
> pros
> > back together in the studio, and the “magic” whops ‘ya up
> > the side. I’ve heard countless FM oldies outlets with
> their
> > rule-loving corporate geniuses at the controls over the
> > years…Sure, they could transmit stereo--but NONE could
> > muster the magic I heard this afternoon on WDJO. Being on
>
> > the air is second (make that FIRST) nature to those guys.
>
> > Even in the face of a technical meltdown, they were “on
> > fire” with excitement minutes later…and DAMN—you could
> hear
> > it over the air! You go-go-go ‘DJO!
> >
>
> Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame
> catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs.
> Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's
> (pre-Beatles). YAWN!
>
> A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative
> programming. They will go ballistic on "corporate" radio
> formats, and yet they get a woodie when something as tired
> and worn out as WDJO hits the air. Go figure.
>
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Others of us, however, anxiously awaited the return of an oldies format that is becoming increasingly harder and harder to find. An oldies playlist limited to 300 "safe" titles is not what we enjoy, especially when you hear the same songs, over and over, every single day. Pretty Woman comes to mind - why should WDJO play it, when WGRR will play it at least 10 times tomorrow? And by the way, our (50+) demographic has lots more to spend than most advertisers expect!
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

Well, there is always Satellite Radio, Internet, IPODS for people who are into different. I like hearing the way radio used to sound before corporations controlled everything like they do today. I'm routing for the little guy in Cincinnati Radio WDJO.







> Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame
> catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs.
> Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's
> (pre-Beatles). YAWN!
>
> A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative
> programming. They will go ballistic on "corporate" radio
> formats, and yet they get a woodie when something as tired
> and worn out as WDJO hits the air. Go figure.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by microbob on 02/25/06 05:19 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> Amen!!!!
>
Me too, I am loving the music and hearing the DJs.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> > Amen!!!!
> >
> Me too, I am loving the music and hearing the DJs.
>
When does the streaming start?

Jim H
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

>
> Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame
> catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs.
> Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's
> (pre-Beatles). YAWN!
>
> A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative
> programming. They will go ballistic on "corporate" radio
> formats, and yet they get a woodie when something as tired
> and worn out as WDJO hits the air. Go figure.

It never fails. If you dare get excited about something there will always be someone to come along and try to rain on your parade.

Music to me is not disposable. There are great songs from the '40's up to today and everyone has their favorites. Contrary to what some believe Rock and Roll did not start with the Beatles. I miss some of the great songs made prior to 1964. So give us one little AM station, if you don't like it there are plenty of others out there. This one is trying to do something different, radio the way it used to be, which many of us enjoyed then and enjoy now.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

Congrats to the entire group involved in putting this station together. I also look forward to the website and streaming. Would love to also air an air check.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

C'mon 96Rocker. If it was what you wanted on an FM, you be just as wound-up as we are. To us, those songs only sound right if they're 10% distorted and in mono. JJ Jackson and the Supremes just ain't the same in stereo. Add Dusty and Ted's "tired, old" banter and we're driving Dad's Elektra again, abusing 425 horses and 29 cent gas. If that's all it takes to put this kind of grin on our face, why should you deny us? You had something better in mind for 1160?

Personally, I kinda look forward to a stiff now and then. Gives it a special flavor.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

I wish WDJO the best, but I see your point. There is a lot of clamor for "innovative programming" but at the same time, we want radio to sound exactly like it did when we were 14 years old.
 
Re: That “Maalox Moment” Turned To Magic

> C'mon 96Rocker. If it was what you wanted on an FM, you be
> just as wound-up as we are. To us, those songs only sound
> right if they're 10% distorted and in mono. JJ Jackson and
> the Supremes just ain't the same in stereo. Add Dusty and
> Ted's "tired, old" banter and we're driving Dad's Elektra
> again, abusing 425 horses and 29 cent gas. If that's all it
> takes to put this kind of grin on our face, why should you
> deny us? You had something better in mind for 1160?
>
> Personally, I kinda look forward to a stiff now and then.
> Gives it a special flavor.
>
I am not sure that anything can be done successfully on 1160 for the long run. I have been living in Cincinnati since 1984, and the history of that frequency hasn't exactly been stellar since then. Let's look at the previous formats.

1180: Country (WFKB)
Adult Standards (WMLX)
1160: Urban A/C: (The Blend)
Sports (1160 BOB)
Conservative Talk (WBOB)

You see a wide variety of formats, all of which were abandoned after a few years.

Maybe 1160 is destined to be a "format du jour" station, with different owners coming in every few years, changing things and throwing new formats at the wall, hoping something will stick.

If oldies doesn't work, maybe Spanish or religion. If Dusty and Co. don't renew their LMA in 2009, my guess will be religion, unless the current license holder sells it or resells the LMA.
 
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We got good 12+ numbers at WMLX - better than WKRC and WCKY - and that format ran from 1987 to 1993. They had a really hard time trying to sell it because the demos were 60+! The "Blend" was destined for monumental failure and it was gone after about a year. I guess BOB was a RATINGS success with young men, but it was very expensive to run and probably lost money.

If my information is correct..and it usually ISN'T...then someone may be doing Spanish within the next two months. But, you didn't hear it from me....I gotta go...they're following me...
 
So when can the rest of us listen online?

In the Miami Valley(aside from WULM's auto-pilot sound) 'DJO can be heard on your car radio with the engine shut off in the accessory position of one's ignition.(lol!) Git R' Done 'DJO with an audiostream sometime soon okay?
All things considered..'DJO sounds cool despite the static and it's good to once again hear good 'ol Charlie VanDyke's liners between jingles and songs..Take THAT CC Cincy!!!
DUSTY STILL ROCKS!


> *If*...and I say *if* it fails...it sure won't be for a lack
> of effort. I just listened to them testing out the
> microphones and equipment and it sounds pretty damn nice. I
> wonder if they'd let me help out for free. I'd have a blast,
> and could update my tape/CD.
>
> My regular job shift starts at two pm today. How sucky is
> THAT???
>
 
Please Forgive Us Ageing Radio Romantics For Enjoying A Kiss—Albeit A Bit Sloppy

> Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame
> catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs.
> Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's
> (pre-Beatles). YAWN!

‘Rocker…If that preference is “personal”--you’re certainly entitled to it, but don’t disguise it as “professional” because you may have never owned a 45rpm “Stack-O-Matic”. While we’re critiquing re-treaded formats, consider that nearly all of commercial music-radio (that aspires to an audience beyond the onset of puberty) utilizes--and even depends on material that Billboard no longer reports sales on. In fact, the first song I heard on the fabled WOXY back in the mid 90s was Roxy Music’s “Love Is the Drug”…FROM 1976!

Several decades ago when I was in my 20s, I didn't characterize the Dean Martin and Doris Day that routinely played on my parents’ choice station as “worn-out sappy clunkers”. That was wise, because over time these songs have proven to be FAR LESS disposable than most of the tunes that modulate large market pop stations in this era. Recently, I was paying for several CDs (including a Ray Charles box set, Wilson Pickett Best Of, and a “Beach Music” and old R&B anthology) at a music store on Hilton Head Island. The early 20ish “new rocker” attendant exclaimed; “Great choices man”, then shocked me with the question—“Have you ever heard of a song called “Monkey Time” by Major Lance?” I’m sure that “clunker” is destined for rotation on ‘DJO soon!

>A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative
> programming.

Oh Rocker…PLEASE tell me you’re not talking about “Jack”, his sister “Alice”, cousin “Max”, or African-American neighbor “JO”! I prefer to reserve that depiction for only the most substantial of examples; like the goings-on at WEBN in the late 60s when “son” took his weekly allowance out in additional hours for underground and album rock at the expense of “dad’s” classical music proclivity; the 1972 Q-102 Top-40 invention on the FM band (DAMN--I still can’t get Chris Bailey out of my head); and Randy Michaels’ clean-up of the Mariner mess in the early 80s on “The Big One”. Those are three good examples of “innovation” in your local…But check your Webster (i.e. “to renew using non-current methods”), and behold that the “renewed” WDJO may well be your fourth!

1160 could indeed be the classic “science fair project”…But the mad scientists seem to be great at mixing chemicals, and it appears that many are watching for smoke to rise from their laboratory.
 
Re: Please Forgive Us Ageing Radio Romantics For Enjoying A Kiss—Albeit A Bit Sloppy

> Q-102 Top-40 invention on the FM band (DAMN--I still can’t
> get Chris Bailey out of my head);


Chris Bailey... GOOD CATCH. How many remember that one....
 
Re: Please Forgive Us Ageing Radio Romantics For Enjoying A Kiss—Albeit A Bit Sloppy

> > Same old washed-up DJs saying the same old lame
> > catch-phrases playing the same old burned-out songs.
> > Especially those sappy clunkers from the early 60's
> > (pre-Beatles). YAWN!
>
> ‘Rocker…If that preference is “personal”--you’re certainly
> entitled to it, but don’t disguise it as “professional”
> because you may have never owned a 45rpm “Stack-O-Matic”.
> While we’re critiquing re-treaded formats, consider that
> nearly all of commercial music-radio (that aspires to an
> audience beyond the onset of puberty) utilizes--and even
> depends on material that Billboard no longer reports sales
> on. In fact, the first song I heard on the fabled WOXY back
> in the mid 90s was Roxy Music’s “Love Is the Drug”…FROM
> 1976!
>
> Several decades ago when I was in my 20s, I didn't
> characterize the Dean Martin and Doris Day that routinely
> played on my parents’ choice station as “worn-out sappy
> clunkers”. That was wise, because over time these songs
> have proven to be FAR LESS disposable than most of the tunes
> that modulate large market pop stations in this era.
> Recently, I was paying for several CDs (including a Ray
> Charles box set, Wilson Pickett Best Of, and a “Beach Music”
> and old R&B anthology) at a music store on Hilton Head
> Island. The early 20ish “new rocker” attendant exclaimed;
> “Great choices man”, then shocked me with the question—“Have
> you ever heard of a song called “Monkey Time” by Major
> Lance?” I’m sure that “clunker” is destined for rotation on
> ‘DJO soon!
>
> >A lot of posters on these boards clamor for new, innovative
>
> > programming.
>
> Oh Rocker…PLEASE tell me you’re not talking about “Jack”,
> his sister “Alice”, cousin “Max”, or African-American
> neighbor “JO”! I prefer to reserve that depiction for only
> the most substantial of examples; like the goings-on at WEBN
> in the late 60s when “son” took his weekly allowance out in
> additional hours for underground and album rock at the
> expense of “dad’s” classical music proclivity; the 1972
> Q-102 Top-40 invention on the FM band (DAMN--I still can’t
> get Chris Bailey out of my head); and Randy Michaels’
> clean-up of the Mariner mess in the early 80s on “The Big
> One”. Those are three good examples of “innovation” in your
> local…But check your Webster (i.e. “to renew using
> non-current methods”), and behold that the “renewed” WDJO
> may well be your fourth!
>
> 1160 could indeed be the classic “science fair project”…But
> the mad scientists seem to be great at mixing chemicals, and
> it appears that many are watching for smoke to rise from
> their laboratory.
>

You've got the "personal" and "professional" viewpoints mixed up. My posts have been based on professional analysis of the trend away from music on AM, which has been going on since the 70s, and accelerated in the 80s. I also cite the difficulty that upper-demo formats (like 50s-60s oldies) have in attracting advertisers, as well as the special challenges that stand-alone stations have in this day of consolidation.

Also, studies have been done that show that oldies listeners prefer the music delivered in a style along the lines of AC or Hot A/C. The majority of them have outgrown the "Hey Gang, Chime Time, Sookie Sookie" delivery of the past. As for WDJO, throw in the fact that none of the principals have ever owned a radio station before. They come from sales and programming. That doesn't mean they can't run a station successfully, but the odds are not tilted in their favor. I also imagine that their resources ($$$) are limited, at least when compared to most of the other owners in town.
I don't make this stuff up. I use those facts to support my opinion. Maybe I will be proven wrong. I don't think I will be.

On the other hand, virtually all of the pro-WDJO posts say things like, "I think it's great", "I love this music", "I miss the oldies", "Dusty rocks", "This brings back memories of driving around in my dad's big gas-guzzler", etc. Those are definitely personal views. My guess is that some of those posters have never set foot in a radio station.

In fact, the owners of the station seem to be basing their investment heavily on their "personal" love for oldies, and not any meaningful research into it's feasibility on 1160.

Please don't try to put words in my mouth. I never said MAX was innovative. I never said any current station in Cincy is innovative. I just pointed out that a lot of posters want innovative programming.

As far as my credibility with oldies: I am 50 years old and grew up with the Beatles, Beach Boys, Motown, British Invasion, etc. I bought many 45s when I was in my teens, and while it wouldn't be characterized as "extensive", my collection has plenty of "gems".

I said it before and I will say it one more time: Oldies on FM is viable when done correctly (like dropping some of the non-rock 50s and early 60s and adding some non-disco 70s); Oldies on AM is not substantially profitable anymore.

Just because some kid in Hilton Head thinks that Major Lance is still relevant doesn't mean it's true. And by the way, how many truly successful commercial radio stations outside of Florida still play Dean Martin and Doris Day? Not many! That music is timeless, but does not play well on the radio these days.
 
GOOD point, Rocker!

Rocker, VERY GOOD POST. I can't disagree with ANYTHING you said here. Good sobering thought! Since I'm not here often--I just don't know you, but this post (opposed to your earlier) would have saved me time typing--and disagreeing. Those are very good points...THANKS! I was a college "debate guy", but I feel the need to shake your hand 'n say "match point"!

The 50+ crowd seems to "want more", so I still wish the best for the 1160 crew...Maybe we can be surprised, and have an AM band filled with more than pissed-off right-wingers!

'Gonna get back to Sunday nite with "Bill" on WLW...TAKE CARE!
 
Re: GOOD pointt, Rocker!

> Rocker, VERY GOOD POST. I can't disagree with ANYTHING you
> said here. Good sobering thought! Since I'm not here
> often--I just don't know you, but this post (opposed to your
> earlier) would have saved me time typing. Those are very
> good points...THANKS! I was a college "debate guy", but I
> feel the need to shake your hand 'n say GOOD POINT...Match
> point!
>
> 'STILL wish the best for the 1160 crew...Maybe we can be
> surprised!
>
> 'Gonna get back to Sunday nite with "Bill" on WLW...TAKE
> CARE!
>
Thank you for your comments. I really don't try to "one-up" other posters. I don't set out to be a "naysayer" on purpose. I just try to add some insight that I picked up by working 25 years (15 in Cincinnati) in various formats and numerous markets. My "nom-de-plume" tells you one of the stations I worked at in town. For the sake of confidentiality, I don't tell anybody who I am, as is the case with most posters. At least one person knows because he is a personal friend and business acquaintance. I'm not a household name, but I think a fair number of people would recognize it. And if I posted my resume, people might see that I've got a decent level of credibility.

By the way, if you are talking about Bill Boshears (not sure of the spelling): that is an example of what I consider innovative programming. Kind of an upbeat Art Bell. He looks under rocks for stories, but he's not a borderline paranoid schizophrenic! I don't listen to him much, but when I do, I usually get drawn into the conversation quickly. He and his guests really make you think.
 
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