Imus - no guts

[mostb1]

--These things are all nothing more than a diversion--


You are 100% right. Anderson Cooper spent almost 2 hours on CNN talking about Imus. The only thing on any of the so called "news channels" was Imus or Anna Nicole.

As for racism, I challenge mostb1 to read this recent New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/20/national/20blackmen.html?ex=1300510800&en=57e0d1ceebcbc209&ei=5090

Don Imus should be the least of our concerns.

And briancraig, I've got one for you (and the Archie Bunker Imus supporters here) to read about Imus and racism

To me, this ranks as one of the best, if not the best, piece written on the entire Imus matter. READ IT.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20070411/cm_huffpost/045532

 

[TowerBuzz]

I don't even want to hear it. In the 80s I worked for an urban station. I was the only white guy. Sorry, but you are preaching to the choir--)

Right...... and so That makes YOU an expert on racial sensitivity?. Again that's your arrogance talking because nothing actually happens until it happens to YOU. Listen dude, you worked at an Urban station,........That's like saying " Im not racist I have black friends" either way brother you're not getting it which is fine. However just because you dont get it dont assume that no harm was done. Let me put it in terms that even you can understand: Just because You dont understand why someone would find it offensive does not mean that it was NOT offensive, that's the typical white suburban arrogance at work. If you cant look at life through eyes other than only your own then you really dont have any business working at an Urban station, or any station really because not everyone is like you. They that xenophobia. Look it up son.

 

[talkjim]

BrianCraig,

You, like so many people, want to have it both ways on this issue. People who say the Imus story is overplayed, but what do you know, here they are in a thread on a message board devoted to guess what? The Imus issue.

I would need more than two hands to count the number of people I've talked to in recent days who tell me the issue is overplayed, and then go on to talk about it for ten minutes.

The news media is not setting an agenda here--it is covering a national debate about race that for better or worse, was started by one man, whose name is Imus. Deal with it.

 

[briancraig]

No one has answered my question, why do we get upset over what some shock jock says but we aren't outraged by real race issues like minority kids being stuck in bad public schools.

 

[mostb1]

No one has answered my question, why do we get upset over what some shock jock says but we aren't outraged by real race issues like minority kids being stuck in bad public schools.

Because we don't see it or hear it behind our locked gated communities and tinted car windows. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Somewhere along the line Imus shattered one of those rules.

 

[Hamp]

I am probably going to get a lot of flack for this comment, but I am going to say it anyway. How is using the phrase, "Nappy Headed Ho's" necessarily a racist statement? I admit it is insulting, but racist I don't know. No disrespect to any of the ladies at on the Rutgers team, but saying someone's hair is nappy isn't necessarily a "racist" comment. I am also not saying that the any of the ladies hair is "nappy." All the word Nappy means is that a person's hair is unkept. If I said a non-black person's hair was stringy or mangy, would I be a racist? It would be insulting, not necessarily racist.
I am in no way defending Imus or what he said, because that isn't a professional thing to say on the air. But should such an uproar be made about this. To me, it is only making Imus more popular. People who have never heard of him before not know who he is because of this comment. I just think that certain indivdiduals are just giving him MORE popularity over some stupid remark.

Oh please. Of all the posts I've seen yours is the most naive.

Calling a black female a whore by referring to what kind of hair they have? Calling a young collage student a whore? You're asking what is wrong with that? It's sick just to see someone that could post something that naive.

It isn't making Imus popular. All it's doing is digging his grave even faster.

Get real.

First of all, I NEVER said anything about Imus calling them "hos" because of their hair. You need to READ a post before responding. All I mentioned was that just because saying someone's hair is "nappy" does that necessarily make it racist? I NEVER said Imus' comments were proper (because they weren't), I was just making a point. That doesn't make me naive.
Also, the more people keep talking about this subject, you are only giving this man more power than he deserves.
Prime Example, two years ago when Miss Jones in the Morning from Hot 97 in New York did a horrible skit about the victims of the tsumani. There was this big uproar and people were protesting, advertisers were pulling and Tarsha Jones was removed from the morning show. But no one looks at what happened a few months later. When all of the hype died down, Emmis brought back Miss Jones and nobody thought anything the wiser. I guarantee, the same thing is going to happen with Imus.
Oh, and another thing. If I were those young ladies, I wouldn't let some nobody from a radio talk show get me down. Imus doesn't know them or their lives, so I feel that these ladies should hold their heads high and not pay attention to this garbage. Because the more it is mentioned, IT IS MAKING IMUS MORE POPULAR!!!! Even if it isn't for a good reason!!!!
So with all due respect, maybe YOU need to get real!!!!!!!!!!!
To be honest, I don't even know if I were those ladies if I would even accept Imus apology because you don't if it is sincere or not. I just think the best thing for these ladies to do is to continue to excel in their studies and move on with their lives. Someone like Don Imus can only make or brake someone if they allow them to. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

 

[Hamp]

I am probably going to get a lot of flack for this comment, but I am going to say it anyway. How is using the phrase, "Nappy Headed Ho's" necessarily a racist statement? I admit it is insulting, but racist I don't know. No disrespect to any of the ladies at on the Rutgers team, but saying someone's hair is nappy isn't necessarily a "racist" comment. I am also not saying that the any of the ladies hair is "nappy." All the word Nappy means is that a person's hair is unkept. If I said a non-black person's hair was stringy or mangy, would I be a racist? It would be insulting, not necessarily racist.
I am in no way defending Imus or what he said, because that isn't a professional thing to say on the air. But should such an uproar be made about this. To me, it is only making Imus more popular. People who have never heard of him before not know who he is because of this comment. I just think that certain indivdiduals are just giving him MORE popularity over some stupid remark.

Oh please. Of all the posts I've seen yours is the most naive.

Calling a black female a whore by referring to what kind of hair they have? Calling a young collage student a whore? You're asking what is wrong with that? It's sick just to see someone that could post something that naive.

It isn't making Imus popular. All it's doing is digging his grave even faster.

Get real.

Oh, another thing. Learn to spell before you try to put someone else down. "C O L L E G E" is the PROPER spelling of the word. Not "A G E."

 

[winreader]

Re: Imus - no balls

Wow whhat a completely clueless thread. Why doesnt he say "yeah i said it so what"?

BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT TO LOSE:

A. His adverisers

B, More importantly his gig.

C. IF A should occur, expect B.

Can you really be THAT clueless? and by the way, what he said about "nappy headed hoes" was not as offensive as the reference to the "Jiggaboos"; and his defense? " OH I heard it in a Spike Lee movie"

Get serious, he stepped on his d**k one time too many.

And did apologizing to Sharpton achieve those goals?

 

[mostb1]

I am probably going to get a lot of flack for this comment, but I am going to say it anyway. How is using the phrase, "Nappy Headed Ho's" necessarily a racist statement? I admit it is insulting, but racist I don't know. No disrespect to any of the ladies at on the Rutgers team, but saying someone's hair is nappy isn't necessarily a "racist" comment. I am also not saying that the any of the ladies hair is "nappy." All the word Nappy means is that a person's hair is unkept. If I said a non-black person's hair was stringy or mangy, would I be a racist? It would be insulting, not necessarily racist.
I am in no way defending Imus or what he said, because that isn't a professional thing to say on the air. But should such an uproar be made about this. To me, it is only making Imus more popular. People who have never heard of him before not know who he is because of this comment. I just think that certain indivdiduals are just giving him MORE popularity over some stupid remark.

Oh please. Of all the posts I've seen yours is the most naive.

Calling a black female a whore by referring to what kind of hair they have? Calling a young collage student a whore? You're asking what is wrong with that? It's sick just to see someone that could post something that naive.

It isn't making Imus popular. All it's doing is digging his grave even faster.

Get real.

First of all, I NEVER said anything about Imus calling them "hos" because of their hair. You need to READ a post before responding. All I mentioned was that just because saying someone's hair is "nappy" does that necessarily make it racist? I NEVER said Imus' comments were proper (because they weren't), I was just making a point. That doesn't make me naive.
Also, the more people keep talking about this subject, you are only giving this man more power than he deserves.
Prime Example, two years ago when Miss Jones in the Morning from Hot 97 in New York did a horrible skit about the victims of the tsumani. There was this big uproar and people were protesting, advertisers were pulling and Tarsha Jones was removed from the morning show. But no one looks at what happened a few months later. When all of the hype died down, Emmis brought back Miss Jones and nobody thought anything the wiser. I guarantee, the same thing is going to happen with Imus.
Oh, and another thing. If I were those young ladies, I wouldn't let some nobody from a radio talk show get me down. Imus doesn't know them or their lives, so I feel that these ladies should hold their heads high and not pay attention to this garbage. Because the more it is mentioned, IT IS MAKING IMUS MORE POPULAR!!!! Even if it isn't for a good reason!!!!
So with all due respect, maybe YOU need to get real!!!!!!!!!!!
To be honest, I don't even know if I were those ladies if I would even accept Imus apology because you don't if it is sincere or not. I just think the best thing for these ladies to do is to continue to excel in their studies and move on with their lives. Someone like Don Imus can only make or brake someone if they allow them to. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

That's not true at all. People who are not strong, who are young or children can be made to feel inferior easily. I think you need to take a psychology 101 class.

Imus isn't coming back. This has become a NATIONAL story of incredible proportions. Advertisers and his "gang" of regulars can't come back.

If this is the way to become popular, I want to be a loner.

Imus broke himself. He's a tainted comodity. His show could never be the same anyway. It's better that CBS and he just get it over with and move on. It's inevitable.

 

[mxhdrm1978]

Look at all of the controversy created by an idiot. What Imus said, which he should not have, is what can be heard on the radio, on the street and in our public schools. What's the fuss? Just because a white man said it? Is it ok for someone to speak disrespectfully of their own race, but not for someone outside of that racial/cultural group to do the same? We are the idiots for even taking that clown Imus seriously or even listening to his crap. If we "minorities" want to be treated the same as the "majority" then maybe we should clean up our own acts and raise our children in an appropriate and intelligent manner so they can be more than just minimum wage morons with foul vocabularies and no respect for anyone or anything.

 

[ROCKMEISTER]

What would JESUS do?

 

[tomservo]

That's not true at all. People who are not strong, who are young or children can be made to feel inferior easily. I think you need to take a psychology 101 class. ... Imus broke himself. He's a tainted comodity. His show could never be the same anyway. It's better that CBS and he just get it over with and move on. It's inevitable.

Are you saying that black people are weak?

That's sure what it sounds like, because supposedly it's the black folks that are so offended. Maybe my libertarian mindset is getting in the way of reality, but I believe in judging each individual on her or his own merits and not lumping them into groups. It's that reason that I dunno why this issue has become so big when the only ones who really should be offended are the (probably wonderful, great) ladies of the basketball team. He directly insulted them, not the entire black race. Geez.

Granted, I am not familiar with his other supposed racial comments but this one just doesn't fit the "rascist" mold. You guys bandying about that term probably don't even know what its definition is (the dictionary one, not the one you think it should be.)

Funny how he referred to the Lady Vols' team as "cute", yet everyone conveniently overlooks the fact that eight of those players are non-white.

It was a mean-spirited, cutting jab at the Rutgers team's looks, not an indictment of 'people of color' or women everywhere. Sheesh. He shouldn't get fired for that. If we gotta put up with offensive rap, militant black talk shows and ultra right wing zealots, we gotta put up with everything else. And that's the way it should be, imho.

 

[mostb1]

That's not true at all. People who are not strong, who are young or children can be made to feel inferior easily. I think you need to take a psychology 101 class. ... Imus broke himself. He's a tainted comodity. His show could never be the same anyway. It's better that CBS and he just get it over with and move on. It's inevitable.

Are you saying that black people are weak?

That's sure what it sounds like, because supposedly it's the black folks that are so offended. Maybe my libertarian mindset is getting in the way of reality, but I believe in judging each individual on her or his own merits and not lumping them into groups. It's that reason that I dunno why this issue has become so big when the only ones who really should be offended are the (probably wonderful, great) ladies of the basketball team. He directly insulted them, not the entire black race. Geez.

Granted, I am not familiar with his other supposed racial comments but this one just doesn't fit the "rascist" mold. You guys bandying about that term probably don't even know what its definition is (the dictionary one, not the one you think it should be.)

Funny how he referred to the Lady Vols' team as "cute", yet everyone conveniently overlooks the fact that eight of those players are non-white.

It was a mean-spirited, cutting jab at the Rutgers team's looks, not an indictment of 'people of color' or women everywhere. Sheesh. He shouldn't get fired for that. If we gotta put up with offensive rap, militant black talk shows and ultra right wing zealots, we gotta put up with everything else. And that's the way it should be, imho.

Quote the original poster that I replied to along with my reply, then I will reply to you.

Do you think I'm stupid? i'm not like Don Imus allowing myself to get caught up out of context answering a question.

 

[ruger22com]

I think Imus realizes he has not really crossed the line too far, but he is more worried about losing a platform for his charity work and that is why he is bowing down. Remember, imus is fithy rich, old and in poor health. I am sure retirement has crossed his mind more than once, but his shows give him a platform to promote those charities he really believes in, and that is what he is afraid of losing.

I am glad to see him start firing back at his critics.

 

[mostb1]

I think Imus realizes he has not really crossed the line too far, but he is more worried about losing a platform for his charity work and that is why he is bowing down. Remember, imus is fithy rich, old and in poor health. I am sure retirement has crossed his mind more than once, but his shows give him a platform to promote those charities he really believes in, and that is what he is afraid of losing.

I am glad to see him start firing back at his critics.

He's only digging a deeper hole by doing so. Don't you people know the first rules of how to spin a story? And it's WAY too late for Imus.

Imus is GUILTY of compounding a racial stereotype by going on Sharpton's show. This CONSERVATIVE organization's press release asking for Imus to be fired shows that http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-12-2007/0004564477&EDATE=

Imus is an idiot. He played his cards wrong by showing his hand. GO AWAY IMUS you are an embarrasment to the broadcasting industry.

 

[radioman1380]

Imus should have apologized on-air and to the Rutgers girls basketball team. Yes, I would have thought someone in his posistion would have stood their ground and not give Sharpton or Jackson the time of day on this issue. What he said was wrong. But where will it end? Who's next? What gives Sharpton and Jackson the authority to speak for the rest of the black community and be the PC police? An apology and two-week suspension is enough. Fortunately, Imus has people standing up for him when he can't do it himself. Kudos to Sen. McCain for his remarks on this issue. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

 

[tomservo]

Quote the original poster that I replied to along with my reply, then I will reply to you.

Do you think I'm stupid? i'm not like Don Imus allowing myself to get caught up out of context answering a question.

A) I'm not going to quote things that everyone following this thread has already read, three pages back. That is annoying.

B) It's okay for the media and black 'leaders' to take Imus' phrase out of context, but it's not okay for me to take yours out of context? More double standards, eh?

C) I don't think you're stupid, just wrong, insincere and outraged-by-proxy. Just like Al Sharpton.

I re-read the entire nest of quotes you had in your earlier post. I still ask, do you think black people are weak? That's still what it appears to be, to me.

Oh well, Imus is gone now. In the end it won't matter one bit to me. I just like calling out hipocracy and idiocy when I see it. :

 

[TowerBuzz]

Re: Imus - no balls

Wow whhat a completely clueless thread. Why doesnt he say "yeah i said it so what"?

BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT TO LOSE:

A. His adverisers

B, More importantly his gig.

C. IF A should occur, expect B.

Can you really be THAT clueless? and by the way, what he said about "nappy headed hoes" was not as offensive as the reference to the "Jiggaboos"; and his defense? " OH I heard it in a Spike Lee movie"

Get serious, he stepped on his d**k one time too many.

And did apologizing to Sharpton achieve those goals?

NO,..lol it didnt. The truth? Imus is an idiot for a million different reasons but going on Sharpton's show was a huge mistake because he went without any sort of PR person who knows how to handle crisis management, he made things worse because he's Don Imus, an old man from the Jim Crow sort of culture and during the Sharpton show when he referred to (and Im giving him the benefit of the doubt here, I really, really am) SHarpton and the female councilwoman who was on the phone with them as " I cant get anywhere with YOU PEOPLE", well that to many people (not just blacks ) was another example of his bigoted thinking. Maybe you dont understand that reference but it's an old school sort of way of separation, blacks being "You people" or "Those people" the excluded class of the country. Listen to you it may not make sense but to many blacks it is a hurtful reminderr of certain members of the culture that want to exclude them from it. Again I bet Imus meant "you two specific people Im talking to" but it came out ( in his natural sort of expression of his thinking) "you people" Just made him look even more like what he is: An old codger who,.well is he racist?.........maybe, maybe not BUT definately somewhat of a bigot. There is a difference and he is KNOWN to be bigoted behind the scenes, i mean it is not even a secret!. Listen it was not just Sharpton that came after him, the national Organization of women (NOW) mostly a white suburban group of women, went right in his face!. Sharpton maybe a bit of a self promoter in the minds of many but there is really no polite way to protest when you feel you've been locked out of the system. Think about it: If they had not threatened the advertisers etc do you know what would have happened? they would have received some form letter from the Pr dept of CBS which said " thank you for your suggestions, we'll take them under advisement...blah blah" and a stamped signature. You KNOW Im right!.

 

[Hamp]

I am probably going to get a lot of flack for this comment, but I am going to say it anyway. How is using the phrase, "Nappy Headed Ho's" necessarily a racist statement? I admit it is insulting, but racist I don't know. No disrespect to any of the ladies at on the Rutgers team, but saying someone's hair is nappy isn't necessarily a "racist" comment. I am also not saying that the any of the ladies hair is "nappy." All the word Nappy means is that a person's hair is unkept. If I said a non-black person's hair was stringy or mangy, would I be a racist? It would be insulting, not necessarily racist.
I am in no way defending Imus or what he said, because that isn't a professional thing to say on the air. But should such an uproar be made about this. To me, it is only making Imus more popular. People who have never heard of him before not know who he is because of this comment. I just think that certain indivdiduals are just giving him MORE popularity over some stupid remark.

Oh please. Of all the posts I've seen yours is the most naive.

Calling a black female a whore by referring to what kind of hair they have? Calling a young collage student a whore? You're asking what is wrong with that? It's sick just to see someone that could post something that naive.

It isn't making Imus popular. All it's doing is digging his grave even faster.

Get real.

First of all, I NEVER said anything about Imus calling them "hos" because of their hair. You need to READ a post before responding. All I mentioned was that just because saying someone's hair is "nappy" does that necessarily make it racist? I NEVER said Imus' comments were proper (because they weren't), I was just making a point. That doesn't make me naive.
Also, the more people keep talking about this subject, you are only giving this man more power than he deserves.
Prime Example, two years ago when Miss Jones in the Morning from Hot 97 in New York did a horrible skit about the victims of the tsumani. There was this big uproar and people were protesting, advertisers were pulling and Tarsha Jones was removed from the morning show. But no one looks at what happened a few months later. When all of the hype died down, Emmis brought back Miss Jones and nobody thought anything the wiser. I guarantee, the same thing is going to happen with Imus.
Oh, and another thing. If I were those young ladies, I wouldn't let some nobody from a radio talk show get me down. Imus doesn't know them or their lives, so I feel that these ladies should hold their heads high and not pay attention to this garbage. Because the more it is mentioned, IT IS MAKING IMUS MORE POPULAR!!!! Even if it isn't for a good reason!!!!
So with all due respect, maybe YOU need to get real!!!!!!!!!!!
To be honest, I don't even know if I were those ladies if I would even accept Imus apology because you don't if it is sincere or not. I just think the best thing for these ladies to do is to continue to excel in their studies and move on with their lives. Someone like Don Imus can only make or brake someone if they allow them to. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

That's not true at all. People who are not strong, who are young or children can be made to feel inferior easily. I think you need to take a psychology 101 class.

Imus isn't coming back. This has become a NATIONAL story of incredible proportions. Advertisers and his "gang" of regulars can't come back.

If this is the way to become popular, I want to be a loner.

Imus broke himself. He's a tainted comodity. His show could never be the same anyway. It's better that CBS and he just get it over with and move on. It's inevitable.

First of all, I HAVE taken psychology. Second of all, it doesn't matter if the person is young or not, you don't consider yourself inferior unless you let others treat you as such. Maybe a child doesn't understand that at first, but as they get older they do. What life are you living in? Whether the child (or adult) knows it or not, the saying STILL stands, no one can make you inferior without your consent.