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IMUS Should have never....

radiosaur said:
mostb1 said:
From Entertaining to Tiring? A discussion about a racist remark, a pattern of racism and RACISM in America in general?

The saddest and silliest post I've seen on this, period. You really need to get a grip on life and understand racism.

A discussion is already going on about rap lyrics. And, as I've said if you've been reading my posts which you appear to be, the only good thing that might come about because of this is a national discussion on racism in America. And that includes song lyrics. But right now, Imus is the one who is in the hot seat. And that isn't going to change until CBS Radio and NBC FIRE HIM.

This isn't about me. it's about Imus and racism so stop trying to "change the subject". And for the record, can you point out EVERY BOARD I've posted on as you claim? You'll be able to list two, New York City, his home market and National TV. Makes your comments look all the more silly.


Yes, it's tiring, and you have certainly opened up a national dialog about this, at least on this board. Unfortunately, it lets everyone see how ultra senstive and rabid you are...and frankly, it's done more harm to your cause than good, regardless of what happens to Imus.
Again, it's silly to say things about me. This is about Imus and why he lost his job for being a racist.

SInce Imus is now gone from tv and will soon be from radio, I guess we can all say YOU ARE WRONG. Have a nice day :)
 
radiosaur said:
Yes, it's tiring, and you have certainly opened up a national dialog about this, at least on this board. Unfortunately, it lets everyone see how ultra senstive and rabid you are...and frankly, it's done more harm to your cause than good, regardless of what happens to Imus.

What??? Mostb1 is very opinionated (one of the most if not THE most opinionated on the LA board) as many of us are, BUT do you seriously consider a discussion on these boards, populated by a teeny tiny % of Americans and of course an even smaller % of World citizens, has that great a specific impact? Or do you mean (I hope) that this incident opens up a long-needeed dialogue not just here in the radio world but in society in general. Having said that, I disagree that Glenn's vociferous complaints have done anything to "harm" the cause. He didn't open the dialogue, the I-Man did on April 4th.
 
SuperRadioFan said:
radiosaur said:
Yes, it's tiring, and you have certainly opened up a national dialog about this, at least on this board. Unfortunately, it lets everyone see how ultra senstive and rabid you are...and frankly, it's done more harm to your cause than good, regardless of what happens to Imus.

What??? Mostb1 is very opinionated (one of the most if not THE most opinionated on the LA board) as many of us are, BUT do you seriously consider a discussion on these boards, populated by a teeny tiny % of Americans and of course an even smaller % of World citizens, has that great a specific impact? Or do you mean (I hope) that this incident opens up a long-needeed dialogue not just here in the radio world but in society in general. Having said that, I disagree that Glenn's vociferous complaints have done anything to "harm" the cause. He didn't open the dialogue, the I-Man did on April 4th.

I didn't reference a nationwide dialog first. mostb1 did.

But even so...

By not having a civilized, non-foaming at the mouth discussion about the issue instead of whining and screaming all over these boards and the media in general, you (and those like you) have hurt your cause. The fact that Imus is now gone has no bearing on if I am right or wrong...but your last post is telling, mostb1. Despite your holier than thou posts, you consider that you have 'won' by proving everyone else 'wrong'....but you did nothing of the sort. Racism still exists, and this overblown reaction has in fact alienated a lot of folks sympathetic to the victims of racism.

I still think Imus's statements were a non-issue to anyone with any self esteem and half a spine...but:

An alternate ending, perhaps would have been for team to contact Imus, appear on the show, and talk it out. Much less hysterics and ado about a few words might have accomplished something positive. Instead, the battle lines are drawn...again. Nice job.

But you helped take down one man. Contratulations. Hope you feel better now, but you obviously have some serious issues to deal with. Good luck with that.
 
radiosaur said:
SuperRadioFan said:
radiosaur said:
Yes, it's tiring, and you have certainly opened up a national dialog about this, at least on this board. Unfortunately, it lets everyone see how ultra senstive and rabid you are...and frankly, it's done more harm to your cause than good, regardless of what happens to Imus.

What??? Mostb1 is very opinionated (one of the most if not THE most opinionated on the LA board) as many of us are, BUT do you seriously consider a discussion on these boards, populated by a teeny tiny % of Americans and of course an even smaller % of World citizens, has that great a specific impact? Or do you mean (I hope) that this incident opens up a long-needeed dialogue not just here in the radio world but in society in general. Having said that, I disagree that Glenn's vociferous complaints have done anything to "harm" the cause. He didn't open the dialogue, the I-Man did on April 4th.

I didn't reference a nationwide dialog first. mostb1 did.

But even so...

By not having a civilized, non-foaming at the mouth discussion about the issue instead of whining and screaming all over these boards and the media in general, you (and those like you) have hurt your cause. The fact that Imus is now gone has no bearing on if I am right or wrong...but your last post is telling, mostb1. Despite your holier than thou posts, you consider that you have 'won' by proving everyone else 'wrong'....but you did nothing of the sort. Racism still exists, and this overblown reaction has in fact alienated a lot of folks sympathetic to the victims of racism.

I still think Imus's statements were a non-issue to anyone with any self esteem and half a spine...but:

An alternate ending, perhaps would have been for team to contact Imus, appear on the show, and talk it out. Much less hysterics and ado about a few words might have accomplished something positive. Instead, the battle lines are drawn...again. Nice job.

But you helped take down one man. Contratulations. Hope you feel better now, but you obviously have some serious issues to deal with. Good luck with that.
You're still clueless. This isn't about a ONE TIME mis-speak. His history has been layed out all over the net including links to stories I've posted. And people like Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune have also told their stories about how Imus promised to stop doing this kind of stuff years ago. BUT HE DIDN'T.

Imus had to go. The employees at NBC demanded it and I'm sure the same situation is going on at CBS.
When you're getting people like Al Roker posting in his blog on MSNBC that you've got to go, you're history (a number of contributors to MSNBC and Keith Olbermann also admitted this evening that they were calling on their management to oust him).

Imus isn't a man. He's a racist. Maybe he can learn to be a man in his retirement reflecting on how he's harmed people with his words for so long.
 
And people like Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune have also told their stories about how Imus promised to stop doing this kind of stuff years ago. BUT HE DIDN'T.

Still starting sentences with "And".

The scenario you was typical of what Imus did beginning in the late 80's. Mr Page may have been sincere in getting Imus to stop making "simeon" comments, (I never heard this but haven't listened in tears) in reality though, Page was just a Prop in a comedy bit.

Imus isn't a man. He's a racist.

Imus is a man, wealthy, arrogant, Republican man. Chronologically atleast.

If you are going to obsess on this topic, try not to be childish.

Lino
 
LinoNYC said:
And people like Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune have also told their stories about how Imus promised to stop doing this kind of stuff years ago. BUT HE DIDN'T.

Still starting sentences with "And".

The scenario you was typical of what Imus did beginning in the late 80's. Mr Page may have been sincere in getting Imus to stop making "simeon" comments, (I never heard this but haven't listened in tears) in reality though, Page was just a Prop in a comedy bit.

Imus isn't a man. He's a racist.

Imus is a man, wealthy, arrogant, Republican man. Chronologically atleast.

If you are going to obsess on this topic, try not to be childish.

Lino

We're here on a message board to get grammer lessons from you?

If Imus were a man he would not have continued to make racist, sexist, homophobic statements year after year, promised to stop saying "Gorilla" when describing blacks when challenged by Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune, then continue to do so after. He's not a man.

If you're going to add posts on this subject, stick to the subject and not make silly statments.
 
If you're going to add posts on this subject, stick to the subject and not make silly statments.

Youl'd be well advised to follow you own "advice".

You obviously have alot of time to follow this story and some of your external links have been a service to those who haven't the time to research this extensively.

However, when you veer off course and make idiotic and childish remarks, such as those about Imus' manhood, you can expect to be called on it.

-Lino
 
LinoNYC said:
If you're going to add posts on this subject, stick to the subject and not make silly statments.

Youl'd be well advised to follow you own "advice".

You obviously have alot of time to follow this story and some of your external links have been a service to those who haven't the time to research this extensively.

However, when you veer off course and make idiotic and childish remarks, such as those about Imus' manhood, you can expect to be called on it.

-Lino
No real "MAN" spews the hurtful, racist, sexist and homophobic remarks that Imus has and can expect to get away it. He's a dishonorable person and no man of any kind.

FYI, I'm on vacation this wk.
 
mostb1 said:
You're still clueless. This isn't about a ONE TIME mis-speak. His history has been layed out all over the net including links to stories I've posted. And people like Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune have also told their stories about how Imus promised to stop doing this kind of stuff years ago. BUT HE DIDN'T.

Imus had to go. The employees at NBC demanded it and I'm sure the same situation is going on at CBS.
When you're getting people like Al Roker posting in his blog on MSNBC that you've got to go, you're history (a number of contributors to MSNBC and Keith Olbermann also admitted this evening that they were calling on their management to oust him).

Imus isn't a man. He's a racist. Maybe he can learn to be a man in his retirement reflecting on how he's harmed people with his words for so long.

Personally, (I have said this before), Imus is a boring bloooow-hard. About time the guy got canned. He would have made a good Larry King, NOT a good morning "shock jock" or whatever he has been labeled as since my 50-something folks were teens. I really don't care about his "racist remarks" (when I heard it, it seemed to come out kinda unplanned and awkwardly to fill up dead air, not as a planned remark). The guy, IMHO, is just not a good radio host.

The guy should just retire to his New Mexico ranch and hang his hat up with whatever dignity he has left.

Radio-X
 
No real "MAN" spews the hurtful, racist, sexist and homophobic remarks that Imus has and can expect to get away it.

By that "reasoning" you fall far short. You post your sniping comments anonymously with an enigmatic handle and hide your e-mail. Not that i would be inclined to contact you.

FWIW: My name is Lino R. Tristan I live in Manhattan, email is in profile.
 
You know...not for nothing but first off, my comments came directly from my own brain. It might sound like something Stern said but since I don't own a sirius satellite radio I can't listen and haven't heard Howard in a long time.

Secondly....will all of you STOP SAYING RUTGERS WON...THEY DIDN'T!!!

THEY LOST TO THE TENNESSEE!

I would expect some of you if you are going to comment on something you supposedly know about to at least know the small fact that the women of Rutgers LOST the National Championship Game!
 
Well, but Rutgers DID end up in the final four and that was a victory (or at least the victory around which this storm swirls), that no one can take away from them. Imus said what he said, and has been saying for what, 40 years? This time, he was fire. Everyone should be happy. But I guess not.
 
Blues Man said:
Imus crossed the line by using street talk and calling the team a bunch of "hos." Fact!

You know what, you're right, he crossed the line. No one disputes that. But he crossed the line in a radio bit of can you top this. He did not suddenly, out of the blue, announce that the Rutger's Team was a bunch of "hos"

The Rutger's team made it to the final four when no one thought they would. I was clarifying for whomever that the victory was that victory, not their ultimate defeat. The women played well and ended with a good record. They can revel in that or they can take the focus off their own achievement and turn it to Imus. It's their decision. And while we are at it, NJ Gov Jon Corzine was inured in a crash while heading to a meeting between Don Imus and the Rutgers women's basketball team. If Imus had not made those remarks, the governor would not have been on his way to the meeting and he would not have been injured. Maybe, Imus can be charged with attempted vehicular homicide.
 
Anyacat said:
If Imus had not made those remarks, the governor would not have been on his way to the meeting and he would not have been injured. Maybe, Imus can be charged with attempted vehicular homicide.

You're kidding, right?

Please tell me you are.
 
Kevin said:
Anyacat said:
If Imus had not made those remarks, the governor would not have been on his way to the meeting and he would not have been injured. Maybe, Imus can be charged with attempted vehicular homicide.

You're kidding, right?

Please tell me you are.

Sheesh...Well, yeah, but you know, I wouldn't be surprised if someone does not bring it up somehow.
 
A thought occured to me last evening...
Ya think, with the likes of Laura Ingraham and Michael Savage already there,
that Talk Radio Network (TRN) will try getting Imus on its network, considering
whatever facilities are available in NYC (or elsewhere) for the I-man?


Sidebar: As I recall, Savage was also fired from his MSNBC weekend show
a few years back, for saying to a respondant, quote: "You homophobic -
I hope you get AIDS and die!"
 
I do not understand something. As of this writing, I have not heard anything from the Ladies of the Basketball Team.
I listened to their Coach yesterday. Shouldn't the Ladies have a say in this matter? I DID NOT see Rev. Sharpton sitting on the bench next to the players. Last time I checked, Rev. Sharpton was not on staff at the University.

The following is an E-mail I sent to Mr. Imus. I sent it to the Imus Ranch.

Dear Mr. Imus,

I hope you are going to get this message, or I hope someone will E-Mail it to you from The Imus Ranch.

I have been listening to you for almost 30 years (from the WNBC days). I find your show to be very funny, creative, and very informative.

From your show, I have learned a lot about politics, humor and the way the world works. I remember from the WNBC days when you would have to go to Re-Hab. When you came back you shared your experiences there very honestly and openly with your audience. I believe you allowed people to call in to your show and ask questions about your experience.

If I had to sum up your show in one sentence, it would be..."You use the absurd to prove the absurd". I know you are doing an "act". I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE A RACIST OR A BIGOT!!!

To be honest, I do not think what you said was that wrong. Rev. Sharpton is a "Poverty Pimp", he tries to make the white people fear him while he fuels more racism in the Black Community.

Don, I think you are being used as a scapegoat. Hardly anyone has commented about The Imus Ranch. I heard you say on one of your shows you put in over $250,000 each year to operate the Ranch. I also listened to the shows where you talked about when you (and Charles) toured The Walter Reed Hospital. I know you are against the war, but over the past few years, you have ALWAYS supported the soldiers in anyway possible.

I also think it was great how you confronted Rev. Sharpton about not appearing on your show. He is really a Jacka..
anyway. It must have been really hard for you to appear on his show. Even when Rev. Sharpton tried to "spin" your answers, you were professional at all times.

I think you have apologized enough. I do not even think you should to over to Retugers and meet with the Basketball Team.

I am also sorry the "P-Whipped" Networks canceled your show. I know in the long run, they will suffer the loss. I hope you can go on other talk shows and vent your frustrations. Do not go on "The View", those pain in the ass yentas will drive you crazy. Go on FOX, they support you there.

Once again, I hope you are reading this. I await your return to radio (Maybe XM Satellite Radio?)
Thank you Mr. Imus for almost 30 years of great radio.

Sincerely yours,
Stuart Greenberg
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
 
Dear Stuart Greenberg:
I regret that you do not see what is wrong or inappropriate about what Mr. Imus said. The ladies in question, one of whom claims to be scared for life, have said that their season was ruined by the comments, that their achievements have been undermined and generally the whole year can will now be one big bummer because of Imus' words. They have accepted his apology and have moved on to recover from the ruination of their basketball season. With Mr Imus' scalp firmly on his belt, Mr .Sharpton will now take on the world of hip-hop and single handedly clean up the language. Don't look for Mr Imus on satellite any time soon. They are about to merge and need the good graces of the FCC. I think it's time we all moved on.
 
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