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in need of some help

rookiejames said:
Thanks for all of the suggestions, however none of them have worked thus far. I called Orban today, only to be told that no one could help me because everyone was at the NAB conference. They seemed to find the idea of offering any help laughable.
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We take customer support seriously. However, both of our audio processing tech support guys (Marty Acuff and Kevin Clayborn) were indeed at NAB, which is something that happens once a year. If you had needed emergency parts to keep you on-air, we could have taken care of you. But when you have a setup question, Marty or Kevin are the people to talk to.

Additionally, we try to put as much relevant info as possible in our manuals. Furthermore, the factory presets were created by Greg Ogonowski and me, and consist not only of the initial sound you get when you recall a factory preset, but also all of the LESS-MORE variants that you get when you adjust at the Basic Control level. Greg and I created these presets very seriously; they are competitive without requiring "tweaking." The tweaks are mainly there to allow the presets to be modified to create a desired signature sound.

Finally, when a customer expresses concern about the sound of his station versus the competition, it is necessary to consider several other important issues. The three main ones are:

--Is your competition overmodulating?

--Is your transmission path (STL and TX) overshoot free?

--Is your modulation monitor accurately calibrated and overshoot-free?

These three issues are extremely important when one is trying to maximize a station's competitiveness.

Bob Orban
 
Nice to see you hang around here, Bob!

Can you help me with a Behringer DSP 9024? ;D

(Actually I don't use it anymore, since I shut down my Internet station back in 2003).

R
 
Robert Bass said:
Can you help me with a Behringer DSP 9024? ;D
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That must be the worst compressor/limiter I have ever used! A waste of money (despite it's cheap), if you ask me...


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
Thanks, Mr. Orban...I will try reading the manual more thoroughly. Hopefully we will get to where we need to be sometime soon.
 
Goran Tomas said:
Robert Bass said:
Can you help me with a Behringer DSP 9024? ;D
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That must be the worst compressor/limiter I have ever used! A waste of money (despite it's cheap), if you ask me...


Regards,
Goran Tomas
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Just from my own experience, it its pretty good for the price range, primarily for Internet streaming use. The limiter’s release time is too slow, but thankfully the limiter can be turned off if you don’t object to the overshoots. The box doesn’t have clippers, but I suppose a really low budget station could make it work with a multiband brick wall limiter in the chain right after it. It is a PITA though when it comes to setting it up for broadcast use, unless you love manually adjusting all the attack / release, threshold and compression ratios.

If anything it is a good box to learn the art of processing with, and it’s a shame Behringer discontinued it.

R
 
Well, my experience hasn't been positive, I'm afraid... The unit is very ineffective in compression, despite it's 6 bands. Bands are all over the place, don't remember if it had auto attack/release but even if it had it worked poorly and the unit overall sounded bad to me :(

Like all other production/recording/mastering multiband processors , it doesn't have freeze gating nor attack/release timing suitable for wide range of programming material, which is essential for good sounding radio broadcast. I don't understand why people look at the webstreaming as something which tolerates poorer sound processing as for their on-air sound? If you care about your audience and you want your webstreaming to succeed, you have to pay as much attention to the processing as you do for your on-air sound.


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
I can’t speak for others, but the way I had my Behringer configured, the sound quality for my Internet station was very good. I had an AGC box in front of it, which kept program levels in check. At the time, I didn’t have three or four grand to shell out for a true audio processor, so I did the very best I could with what I had. I also made sure my source material was of the best quality possible, and TM Century GoldDiscs comprised most of the music library.

R
 
We've had very good success with the Optimod card for the PC. Ogonowski has been most helpful in upgrading code to make the card more friendly to computer models which have PCI problems, and has even turned out a Media Player CODEC which optimizes received streams. A card faulre rersulted in an overnight FedEx 'early morning' replacement. from the factory. It would be hard to fault the support we've gotten from them.
 
I have a question for Mr. Orban --

The only preset I have found in the 8400 that seems decent is the Minimum-Delay preset. For Adult Top 40/AAA-leaning stations, do you know of any other popular preset choices? I want to make sure we are choosing the best thing for our audience. Please help if you can!
 
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