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In Praise of KMX

headlandradio said:
Umm...Johnny there are no Hot AC stations in this market ;D And Hot AC is not really that slow, AC is slow (ex. WOOF) an Hot AC example; KMX daytime when still in Enterprise. So u need to get your formats straight! And as for why I would want an Hot AC station; THEY MAKE MONEY & LOTS OF IT!!! Unlike the current KMX whether it's CHR or Top 40/Alt it's billing a lot,lot less-of course that's just what I heard. And you may not be Squirrel I think he's probably cool enough not too use a line like "mr. smarty pants" But..hmm..then again you sure do use the word WE alot when reffering to KMX..I digress. Anyhow since you are so bold and daring who are u? And for that matter just who exactly do u think that I'am? I won't tell u by the way because it would ruin the fun, but i'am curious who think I'am ??? And as for whether or not Squirrel is still the P.D. your right I don't know for sure but whoever WAS doing the music is not anymore & that's a good thing I think ;D And as for CHR not doing good in the "investors books" explain Y102 (Montgomery), KIIS-FM(Los Angelos) WPFM (Panama City Beach Fla.) yes I know that these are in different markets but they are proven examples that a CHR can make MONEY if done right!! Do you have an example of a succesful Top 40/Alt station and don't say KMX because it (and this is just what i'am told) is BLEEDING RED :-\ Just think a 100,000 watts & NO profit ??? Of course Hot AC would make more than both, would you like an example hmm... how about the old WKMX. Which was of course Hot AC during the day & CHR POP by night. Peace-Johnny

O.K head, Once again what we have found here in the wiregrass,( I say in a tired voice) THE ADVERTISER'S DO NOT WANT IT!!!! They pay the bill's, It's not that a CHR can not make money some place else just not here. We had that problem thats why we have so many country stations, You know the Legends now, was a great station, We had to turn it couldnt sell it!!!! Just ask anybody, Also P.C & Montgomery(WPFM IS NOT MAKING MONEY THIS I KNOW) are two different world's then the Dothan market believe it or not, Listen head untill you have talked to these advertisers you will see a true CHR CAN NOT BE SOLD PERIOD! you can not use L.A or any other Market in Dothan, And thats sad as i wrote before "I like a true CHR" but have one song on it that sounds like it, might ,could be, kinda with the sound of "BLACK" you will be screwed. Hence the amount of CHR'S in Dothan. If it was a cash cow like you think, Then we would have 2 or 3 or 4, Ie country ;). No matter who we are we have to carve a nitche, Somthing different, that no one else is doing in this market, Thats why i am such a big supporter of POP/ALT, give it a couple of years, Those kids will be how old????? working, spending, living, and POOF theres your cash cow, somtimes you really do have to crawl before walking and that you can take it to the bank. But corporations want now!! because they dont tell the investors what the real deal is, And I make no reference to anyone on that. Private owners know as in any biz plan it takes Five years to see a proffit and thats a FACT ( If you invested ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS into AOL in 1995 in 1996 you would have made $1,000 dollars, but Five years later in 2000 you would have made 1 millon dollars) Even in radio formates just look, WTVY they just didnt wake up and had instant $$$$, ask amy what her strugles have been. I have been in alot of states with radio the ones that are making money serious money are the ones that have been consitant for about??????? or as you say hmmmm.... Five years!

Now for the Hot AC, Read between the lines when i said about H.AC, if you really take a look at any of the stations in our market you will see we have alot of them, you can figure that out for your self (think of it like home work) and yes Hot AC is slow, when you compair it with other formats like CHR, Rock, POP/ALT ( POP/ALT that has taken off accross the country..FACT) even Rock can be Hot AC and its slower than ACTIVE ROCK, it has no attitude (no balls if you will) I will use another person version of what i think..over saturation to be brief, On your bleeding comment, I dont know what WOOF bills but I do know the the R.P and others are hurting, Also so its not just one company screwing things up. I think the "Old KMX" (for that format) was fine and dont kid your self "the old KMX didnt make that much just ask doc and thats if he will tell you. I think todays KMX is fine(for that format) I think POP/ALT is fine(for that format) none of them are bad, But you cant keep chasing looking for the money if it's not there in any format.(Not even country is making millions)
And I understand for keeping it fun, really I do! But remember unless you are willing to give up your name, Dont call people out! Or think you are naming the right person,Thats why I will not try and name you, But you seem worried I might be on to somthing.
So please try not to make a point and come unarmed because you really dont know what knowlage i will bring. Every thing you wrote looks good on paper but hold no water. This isn't my first turkey shoot. We WE We, I know I say that alot it's Neutral. It pulls the blame to me and not at you by saying "YOU or Them" try it, It really works.

Stwey stewy stewy... I like you stew and my comment to you about "game on" was takin out of contex, that was a referance from "Waynes World" sorry stew I have no pent up aggression, I just say what it is, And welcome (what it is to me) as long as anyone else can take it...P.S I think I would win.....Peace,Love [EDIT]


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Radio-Info lovers everywhere! I have in my possesion the funniest comment ever posted on these boards ;D It is from the great "Johnnytwostep"

"because you really dont know what knowlage i will bring"

Johnny boy I never said that CHR was a cash cow, I was trying to point out to you that there are examples of CHR's that make money & NO examples of Top 40/Alt stations that make money (at least not that u can point out). And your right CHR doesn't work well with advertiseers BUT Top40/Alt is in about the same boat. Also the "OLD WKMX" did have alot of overhead, but it also had tremendous revenue; at least twice that of the current KMX regardless of format. And just what the hell kind of logic are u trying to use here:

"Thats why i am such a big supporter of POP/ALT, give it a couple of years, Those kids will be how old?? working, spending, living, and POOF theres your cash cow, somtimes you really do have to crawl before walking and that you can take it to the bank."

Ummm..Squirrel if KMX would have kept that format forevermore you would not be playing the same songs 5 or 10 years from now, u would be playing primarily the new music from that time, eventually your current listeners will outgrow you & the music they grew up listening too will no longer be on your station. Kind-of like people who grew up in Montgomery listening to Y102 10-12 years ago, most of them no longer listen to Y102. These formats are younger formats. And by the way u can really look all u want to, u can stand on your head u can even wait for the planets to align but, THERE ARE NO HOT AC STATIONS IN THIS MARKET!!!!!!!! We have AC,CLASSIC ROCK,COUNTRY,OLDIES, even OLD COUNTRY, TALK RADIO, R&B, RAP, CHR; BUT NO HOT AC!!!! Several of these stations play songs that you would hear on a Hot AC but they are not Hot AC themselves it is a type of format not just whatever U want it to be :p It comes down to this Squirrel u don't put formats for children on a 100kw stick you put on a format that will make MONEY then if u want you put CHR or Top40/alt on a smaller stick.

As far as money goes around here it's like this WOOF is doing extremely well financially, I have no idea about the radio people & Tragic has 5 count'em 5 stations combined for 276,000 watts and they loose money ??? It doesn't matter how u spin it, what other stations are doing, or really what the problem is- IT'S PATHETIC. And there is NO REASON for a 100,000 watt heritage station(KMX) or(WTVY) not to make bank every single month. There is MONEY out there Tragic is just doing something bad wrong ???

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[EDIT-inflammatory]
 
All I can say about the last few post is I feel "TIO" is imminent.

On the subject of "Old KMX" I do believe Mr. Duffie's non-compete has expired.

KMX redux on the horizon?
 
What's so funny is this board is titled: In Praise of KMX. Again sorry Stewy :( Anyhow I hope we don't have to take it outside, I'am really more of an indoors person :)
 
My apologies J2step, my lack of pop culture knowledge is showing. I've no clue who Wayne is or what world he has.
 
headlandradio said:
Radio-Info lovers everywhere! I have in my possesion the funniest comment ever posted on these boards ;D It is from the great "Johnnytwostep"

"because you really dont know what knowlage i will bring"

Johnny boy I never said that CHR was a cash cow, I was trying to point out to you that there are examples of CHR's that make money & NO examples of Top 40/Alt stations that make money (at least not that u can point out). And your right CHR doesn't work well with advertiseers BUT Top40/Alt is in about the same boat. Also the "OLD WKMX" did have alot of overhead, but it also had tremendous revenue; at least twice that of the current KMX regardless of format. And just what the hell kind of logic are u trying to use here:

"Thats why i am such a big supporter of POP/ALT, give it a couple of years, Those kids will be how old?? working, spending, living, and POOF theres your cash cow, somtimes you really do have to crawl before walking and that you can take it to the bank."

Ummm..Squirrel if KMX would have kept that format forevermore you would not be playing the same songs 5 or 10 years from now, u would be playing primarily the new music from that time, eventually your current listeners will outgrow you & the music they grew up listening too will no longer be on your station. Kind-of like people who grew up in Montgomery listening to Y102 10-12 years ago, most of them no longer listen to Y102. These formats are younger formats. And by the way u can really look all u want to, u can stand on your head u can even wait for the planets to align but, THERE ARE NO HOT AC STATIONS IN THIS MARKET!!!!!!!! We have AC,CLASSIC ROCK,COUNTRY,OLDIES, even OLD COUNTRY, TALK RADIO, R&B, RAP, CHR; BUT NO HOT AC!!!! Several of these stations play songs that you would hear on a Hot AC but they are not Hot AC themselves it is a type of format not just whatever U want it to be :p It comes down to this Squirrel u don't put formats for children on a 100kw stick you put on a format that will make MONEY then if u want you put CHR or Top40/alt on a smaller stick.

As far as money goes around here it's like this WOOF is doing extremely well financially, I have no idea about the radio people & Tragic has 5 count'em 5 stations combined for 276,000 watts and they loose money ??? It doesn't matter how u spin it, what other stations are doing, or really what the problem is- IT'S PATHETIC. And there is NO REASON for a 100,000 watt heritage station(KMX) or(WTVY) not to make bank every single month. There is MONEY out there Tragic is just doing something bad wrong ???

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REALLY!!! Well i see you do NOT know how to grow a format.

Also i could have but didnt point out your spelling mistakes!

[EDIT]

Stewy no worriers.


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well i guess my opinion of head got axed,

but what i said in a nice way was again calling out somone you have no clue of and, that makes me think of music from the early 80's not techno but not rock, it was p _ _ _! yea that.
 
Okay I'am pretty much done with this thread it's getting old & going nowhere. JON JON ..what's up man? 8)...look all this calling out your right I shouldn't be doing it. Beacause I don't know for sure who U are, also this board is meant for people to remain anonymous if they wish & I should not be trying to threaten that luxury that we all have. Furthermore I should not be calling out people if I'am not willing to give up my own name you are absolutely 100% right on these points...& I'am sorry..You know what? I want to make this up to you..I'll tell U what I'am going to do I'am going to call YOU & Kelly one morning, you can put me on the air & I'll apologize to U..It could be a Trainwreck special, It'll be great & it will give US a chance to bond. ;D Look seriously I could not possibly care less who U are I just like pushing your buttons and I've enjoyed debating you..I really have..but quit taking things so personally this board is supposed to be fun..all the smart comments & "calling out" are part of it..if you want to debate in a polite forum then run for President. So anyway I'am just messing with U..Loosen up. Holla 8) !!!
 
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