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Independent Rock Station in DALLAS!!!! YES ITS TRUE!!!!

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SEANB05

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I read this board a lot and never post, but I have noticed that we all keep complaining on how there are not any good rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.

May I remind you that we have an independent radio station here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is Christian Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on corporate radio, that we always complain about. Having worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on their street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about their listeners, and will even play a song request when you call in and request it unlike the other stations.

Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage area is similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5. THIS STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays some great Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it out!!!!
 
> I read this board a lot and never post, but I have noticed
> that we all keep complaining on how there are not any good
> rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
>
> May I remind you that we have an independent radio station
> here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is Christian
> Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on
> corporate radio, that we always complain about. Having
> worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on their
> street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about their
> listeners, and will even play a song request when you call
> in and request it unlike the other stations.
>
> Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage area is
> similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5. THIS
> STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays some great
> Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it out!!!!
>

No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular Indie or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for SIRIUS. I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!

Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in Dallas? I swore I read that was happening somewhere... The Choice used to play some quality Indie stuff.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by julesism on 09/30/05 02:35 AM.</FONT></P>
 
HOW DARE YOU!

For a split second you had me thinking "Wow...the Bone flipped ala Indie in LA". But no, it's a total plug for 89-7.

Christian Rock is not better than a lot of stuff played on corporate radio. If I want to hear music with a message, I'll watch judge judy and sing along with the empire flooring tv jingle. BAH!!!!

I'd love to hear the alternative programming from 88.7 simulcasted on 88.5 after hours. It's a shame The Choice only hits the left side of the metroplex.<P ID="signature">______________
WG</P>
 
Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

> Yes it is Christian Rock...


Ok... so what are the non-Christians supposed to listen to?

What we need is a Jewish Rock station, a Muslim Rock station, and a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...

...who's in?<P ID="signature">______________
"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"
Edgar Allen Poe</P>
 
Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

> > Yes it is Christian Rock...
>
>
> Ok... so what are the non-Christians supposed to listen to?
>
>
> What we need is a Jewish Rock station, a Muslim Rock
> station, and a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...
>
> ...who's in?
>
Budist Rap,Hindu Hip Hop,athiest alternative,and Unitarian ac
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> For a split second you had me thinking "Wow...the Bone
> flipped ala Indie in LA". But no, it's a total plug for
> 89-7.
>
> Christian Rock is not better than a lot of stuff played on
> corporate radio. If I want to hear music with a message,
> I'll watch judge judy and sing along with the empire
> flooring tv jingle. BAH!!!!
>
> I'd love to hear the alternative programming from 88.7
> simulcasted on 88.5 after hours. It's a shame The Choice
> only hits the left side of the metroplex.
>

Boy you people are so closed minded. I know athsists who will even give 89.7 a listen. If you want to settle for the crap they play on the bone and 102.1 fine with me.

I am not trying to convert anybody, I just want to have a radio discussion. you people havent even listened to the station. Some of their stuff, you can't even tell its Christian. Enjoy having Clear Channel shove junk down your throats. Power Fm is the only station I have been to where the staff actully cares about their listeners. And every song made has a message no matter what station its on.

You guys always complain that there's nothing creative in this market. Now we have 897 that is creative and you shoot it down. What a bunch of closed minded people. I am not forcing you to like it. Just Try it.

And why do some of you refuse to try it?
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

I should probably leave this thread alone, but I'll see if I can lend some light here.

There has always been a stigma associated with Christian music, and especially Christian rock. For a kid, there isn't much satisfaction in 'rocking out' with a station your parents would approve of, especially if THEY suggest that you listen. It's just not 'music to gain independence by'. There's also something "uncool" about being associated with it, that you'll be judged by others as a 'holy roller' if you admit to liking it. For folks past 25, there's sort of a comraderie aspect of having mainstream (secular) music that you can discuss with others, and fun sometimes to see if your favorite is embraced by others across the land via the Hot 100 and/or by frequent airplay. Christian rock doesn't have that aspect. You don't have a measuring stick to know what's good, bad or otherwise, what's new or old, no nationwide or universal appeal, no music videos, etc. There's also no superstars or bad boys/girls in Christian music, which, in the secular world, that aspect often sell records to ones who are just curious about what all the hoopla is about.

And ask any mainstream radio listener to name a current Christian group. Most would only come up with the 20-years-in-the-past Petra, or maybe Carman.

For me, I don't feel comfortable 'receiving' a message when I don't know what its basis (or motive) is. I still believe that backmasking is probably used to drop those subtle hints of goodness into the minds of its listeners. And I also don't feel a 'kinship' with those messages anyway. A band from the 90s, "Live," was doing semi-Christian songs then, and got heavy airplay on the pop and rock stations. But what they talk about has more to do with the STRUGGLE over faith and being disillusioned and finding one's place in the world. I can relate to that without feeling 'nudged' into Christianity. But filling me with "God is good" and songs that talk only about positives is just ignoring reality. Also, in a day and age where politicians have muddled the line between church and state, and Christians are lumped in exclusively with conservative points of view, I REALLY have reservations about embracing anything with "CHRISTIAN" stamped on it, although I consider myself one. But yet my version of "Christian-ness" is looked down upon because I don't embrace viewpoints like pro-life, pro-Bush, pro-Moral Majority, etc.

Finally, I also perceive an arrogance with Christian stations, that they won't even consider playing songs that are perfectly harmless, just because they made the mainstream charts, or, are not done by certified "Christian artists." It's almost like, 'Hi there, we're here to promote an agenda, and if you won't listen to it via spoken word, then pick it up from our songs.' It's basically Audio Witnessing. That's a big turnoff. And I know if I listen, I won't hear anything familiar amidst the new offerings, like with The Edge or other rock stations. The Listening Experience, for me, is much more than just, 'Hey, look, it's a generic ROCK song I've never heard before, and I like rock music, so let's keep listening!'

And isn't your station owned by the Criswell Foundation or something? The same folks that run the First Baptist Church downtown? That's another turnoff. Like if George W Bush owned a tv or radio station---would you really think that there'd be a BALANCE there, and fair and equal treatments of issues? Or just there to promote a personal agenda? This adds to the negative perception.

Just my little 2 cents, but I think I've covered it fairly well, at least my perception of things. After going through an earlier wave of Christians trying to compromise my music tastes in the early 80s (Swaggart's crusades, backmasking accusations, seeing my buddies throw away their record collections because their pastor told them to, etc), sure, I'm calloused about this subject. I hope you can understand that. Surely I'm not alone.

> Boy you people are so closed minded. I know athsists who
> will even give 89.7 a listen. If you want to settle for the
> crap they play on the bone and 102.1 fine with me.
>
> I am not trying to convert anybody, I just want to have a
> radio discussion. you people havent even listened to the
> station. Some of their stuff, you can't even tell its
> Christian. Enjoy having Clear Channel shove junk down your
> throats. Power Fm is the only station I have been to where
> the staff actully cares about their listeners. And every
> song made has a message no matter what station its on.
>
> You guys always complain that there's nothing creative in
> this market. Now we have 897 that is creative and you shoot
> it down. What a bunch of closed minded people. I am not
> forcing you to like it. Just Try it.
>
> And why do some of you refuse to try it?
>
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> > For a split second you had me thinking "Wow...the Bone
> > flipped ala Indie in LA". But no, it's a total plug for
> > 89-7.
> >
> > Christian Rock is not better than a lot of stuff played on
>
> > corporate radio. If I want to hear music with a message,
> > I'll watch judge judy and sing along with the empire
> > flooring tv jingle. BAH!!!!
> >
> > I'd love to hear the alternative programming from 88.7
> > simulcasted on 88.5 after hours. It's a shame The Choice
> > only hits the left side of the metroplex.
> >
>
> Boy you people are so closed minded. I know athsists who
> will even give 89.7 a listen. If you want to settle for the
> crap they play on the bone and 102.1 fine with me.
>
> I am not trying to convert anybody, I just want to have a
> radio discussion. you people havent even listened to the
> station. Some of their stuff, you can't even tell its
> Christian. Enjoy having Clear Channel shove junk down your
> throats. Power Fm is the only station I have been to where
> the staff actully cares about their listeners. And every
> song made has a message no matter what station its on.
>
> You guys always complain that there's nothing creative in
> this market. Now we have 897 that is creative and you shoot
> it down. What a bunch of closed minded people. I am not
> forcing you to like it. Just Try it.
>
> And why do some of you refuse to try it?
>

I don't mind the station. I am just too far away to hear it. I notice Sirius has a Christian rock channel now. Perhaps I should give that a listen.
 
No.

Rock is rock...rock music is not about religion.

Oh wait...that's just my opinion.
 
Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...
>
>

THAT'S F'N FUNNY!!
<P ID="signature">______________
Chaos, panic, disorder...my work here is done!!</P>
 
> > I read this board a lot and never post, but I have noticed
>
> > that we all keep complaining on how there are not any good
>
> > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> >
> > May I remind you that we have an independent radio station
>
> > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is Christian
>
> > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on
> > corporate radio, that we always complain about. Having
> > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on their
> > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about their
> > listeners, and will even play a song request when you call
>
> > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> >
> > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage area is
> > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5. THIS
>
> > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays some
> great
> > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it
> out!!!!
> >
>
> No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular Indie
> or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for SIRIUS.
> I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
>
> Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in Dallas? I
> swore I read that was happening somewhere... The Choice used
> to play some quality Indie stuff.
>
I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal, nobody here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
 
Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

> > > Yes it is Christian Rock...
> >
> >
> > Ok... so what are the non-Christians supposed to listen
> to?
> >
> >
> > What we need is a Jewish Rock station, a Muslim Rock
> > station, and a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...
> >
> > ...who's in?
> >
> Budist Rap,Hindu Hip Hop,athiest alternative,and Unitarian

Do they do "Devil's horns" at Christian rock concerts??

I am so going to hell...............<P ID="signature">______________
Chaos, panic, disorder...my work here is done!!</P>
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> And isn't your station owned by the Criswell Foundation or
> something? The same folks that run the First Baptist Church
> downtown? That's another turnoff. Like if George W Bush
> owned a tv or radio station---would you really think that
> there'd be a BALANCE there, and fair and equal treatments of
> issues? Or just there to promote a personal agenda? This
> adds to the negative perception.
>They were owned by the same folks who owned KVTT. Ron Evans and his followers seperated the two last November.
 
Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

> Do they do "Devil's horns" at Christian rock concerts??

Nope - the "hook 'em horns"
 
Re: Geez...

Geez, Alice... now you've gone and made me agree with you...

One point that you missed, though, or that I missed, is that SeanB05 seems to think that the Christian Rock/Alt/Metal that is played is superior to the music played on 102.1. For a Christian Rock fan, that may be true, but as a long-time metal-head, I hear the same bubble-gum-pop-rock song construction that I hear on 102.9 and 106.1. Even if you strip all the words out of the songs, it's still cookie-cutter tripe.

Just my $0.02 about it.<P ID="signature">______________
"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"
Edgar Allen Poe</P>
 
> No.
>
> Rock is rock...rock music is not about religion.
>
> Oh wait...that's just my opinion.


Rock is about anything and everything. Religion shows up. Love shows up. Rebellion certainly shows up. The topics go on and on.

That weird feeling was your mind expanding just now, Musicradio. I wish you more feelings exactly like it from now on.
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

But yet my
> version of "Christian-ness" is looked down upon because I
> don't embrace viewpoints like pro-life, pro-Bush, pro-Moral
> Majority, etc.

If you're looked down upon, then it's by people who put politics above their Christianity--modern pharisees.
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

Pharisee = hypocrite. Sorry, had to look that one up. :)

I agree. It's almost a marriage made in hell. The Christians need power and a way to get their message across, and the conservatives need an avenue to make their motives justified and above questioning. Tying into God is better than wrapping yourself in a flag. The underlying message seems to be, if you doubt the neo-cons, you doubt God. If you don't believe in Bush, then you don't believe in God.

> But yet my
> > version of "Christian-ness" is looked down upon because I
> > don't embrace viewpoints like pro-life, pro-Bush,
> pro-Moral
> > Majority, etc.
>
> If you're looked down upon, then it's by people who put
> politics above their Christianity--modern pharisees.
>
 
Sorry -- Rock was never about religion.

"Highway To Hell" -- play that one in a religious mode....
Hey -- even try "Stairway To Heaven".

It doesn't work.

Have a nice day.
 
Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> I agree. It's almost a marriage made in hell. The
> Christians need power and a way to get their message across,
> and the conservatives need an avenue to make their motives
> justified and above questioning. Tying into God is better
> than wrapping yourself in a flag. The underlying message
> seems to be, if you doubt the neo-cons, you doubt God. If
> you don't believe in Bush, then you don't believe in God.

Actually, Christians don't need political power. They need Christ and nothing else. Living in a religiously free society is very nice, but not necessary for Christianity.

The pharisees' problems were that they were so caught up in following the technicalities of their faith that they missed much bigger religious points. Some pharisees had innocent motives, others didn't. The same goes for today's Christians who are so preoccupied with connecting their faith to their politics.

Bush may indeed lean on his faith; I'm not here to question that. But that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes every single day. And big ones. And it doesn't mean that he hasn't attached himself to issues that have nothing to do with Christianity's teachings. Same goes for the Moral Majority or any other group that wants to mix what is Caesar's with what is Jesus'.
 
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