Independent Rock Station in DALLAS!!!! YES ITS TRUE!!!!

[Sparkomatic]

> Sorry -- Rock was never about religion.
>
> "Highway To Hell" -- play that one in a religious mode....
> Hey -- even try "Stairway To Heaven".
>
> It doesn't work.
>
> Have a nice day.


Check "Bullet the Blue Sky" by U2.

 

[D-I-B]

Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> And ask any mainstream radio listener to name a current
> Christian group. Most would only come up with the
> 20-years-in-the-past Petra, or maybe Carman.

Or if they are younger than 35, they might mention Sixpence, Switchfoot, P.O.D. or Evanscence to name a few that were heard on Power LONG before they were on any commercial station.

The music IS good, not all of it - I personally tune out Power because it is too heavy sometimes, but the music is good.

Oh, adn i know her music is not so very good at all, but even Jessica Simpson's first show was for 15,000 screaming baptist youth here in Texas. But that is a WHOLE OTHER STORY.

 

[rbrucecarter]

I knew it was just a matter of time ---

> I agree. It's almost a marriage made in hell. The
> Christians need power and a way to get their message across,
> and the conservatives need an avenue to make their motives
> justified and above questioning. Tying into God is better
> than wrapping yourself in a flag. The underlying message
> seems to be, if you doubt the neo-cons, you doubt God. If
> you don't believe in Bush, then you don't believe in God.

Before anti-Christian bigots, and Bush bashers joined the thread. Please go put that stuff on the "off the air" board. This is the Dallas radio board, and "I don't like religion" and "I don't like Bush" threads don't belong here.

 

[edwardrmurrow]

> > Sorry -- Rock was never about religion.
> >
> > "Highway To Hell" -- play that one in a religious mode....
>
> > Hey -- even try "Stairway To Heaven".
> >
> > It doesn't work.
> >
> > Have a nice day.
>
>
> Check "Bullet the Blue Sky" by U2.
>
check "Hell fire" -Arthur Brown
Check "Sympathy for the Devil" - Rolling Stones
Check "Imagine" - John Lennon
Check "Sky Pilot" -Animals

Sorry Beckley your arguement has too many cracks in it.

 

[edwardrmurrow]

Re: HOW DARE YOU!

> Pharisee = hypocrite. Sorry, had to look that one up.
>
> I agree. It's almost a marriage made in hell. The
> Christians need power and a way to get their message across,
> and the conservatives need an avenue to make their motives
> justified and above questioning. Tying into God is better
> than wrapping yourself in a flag. The underlying message
> seems to be, if you doubt the neo-cons, you doubt God. If
> you don't believe in Bush, then you don't believe in God.
>
AMEN!!

 

[Sparkomatic]

> check "Hell fire" -Arthur Brown
> Check "Sympathy for the Devil" - Rolling Stones
> Check "Imagine" - John Lennon
> Check "Sky Pilot" -Animals
>
> Sorry Beckley your arguement has too many cracks in it.


My argument has zero cracks in it. I said Rock is about everything, including religion. You guys are saying it excludes religion. All I have to do is name one exception and I've revealed a crack in YOUR argument. Done. Over. That's logic, home slices. Just because there are more songs of rebellion than songs about religion does NOTHING for your case. The fact is that religion DOES play a part in rock, and that's all there is to it.

But if you're going to bring up a softer song like Imagine, you open an entirely different Pandora's Box. My Sweet Lord. Spirit in the Sky. American Pie. The list goes on and on.

 

[edwardrmurrow]

> > check "Hell fire" -Arthur Brown
> > Check "Sympathy for the Devil" - Rolling Stones
> > Check "Imagine" - John Lennon
> > Check "Sky Pilot" -Animals
> >
> > Sorry Beckley your arguement has too many cracks in it.
>
>
> My argument has zero cracks in it. I said Rock is about
> everything, including religion. You guys are saying it
> excludes religion. All I have to do is name one exception
> and I've revealed a crack in YOUR argument. Done. Over.
> That's logic, home slices. Just because there are more
> songs of rebellion than songs about religion does NOTHING
> for your case. The fact is that religion DOES play a part
> in rock, and that's all there is to it.
>
> But if you're going to bring up a softer song like Imagine,
> you open an entirely different Pandora's Box. My Sweet
> Lord. Spirit in the Sky. American Pie. The list goes on
> and on.
>
You IMPLIED "ALL"rock songs.(your original arguement) therefore your argument has cracks in it,now widening to crevices. Tell Ron Evans we all said hello.

 

[Sparkomatic]

> You IMPLIED "ALL"rock songs.(your original arguement)
> therefore your argument has cracks in it,now widening to
> crevices.

I never implied ALL rock songs. I said you can find "anything and everything" in Rock. Rock being a genre of music. Here's my original post:

"Rock is about anything and everything. Religion shows up. Love shows up. Rebellion certainly shows up. The topics go on and on."

 

[BrainDeadPrez]

Re: I knew it was just a matter of time before Bruce barked

But you wouldn't have even mentioned anything if the argument took a pro-Christian turn. I noticed you didn't even defend the original post that let folks know about a particular Christian station (or to encourage that poster to take his comments elsewhere, too.) You're in that watch-and-pounce mode that makes you neo-cons look ridiculous. Are you only into censorship? Protecting the ignorant people who can't think for themselves (and rely on you, the hero, to tell them "the truth"?) Or are you just promoting your personal agenda? And notice that you seem to be the only one who has a problem here. How does it feel to be a "minority" for once? And I take such comfort in knowing that questioning Bush makes one a "basher" or a "hater," and pondering the commercial aspects of Christianity makes one a "bigot." Perhaps **your** short-sighted, blinders-on view of life needs to be directed to another board. The rest of us are trying to function with **reality** as a basis.

Lucky you, that you haven't struggled with your faith or ever questioned the blather that passes through your ears. Bless you, child. Bush's God has an eternal place reserved for you in Crawford.

And, to keep this on a pertinent subject, I still won't listen to 89.7 FM.

> Before anti-Christian bigots, and Bush bashers joined the
> thread. Please go put that stuff on the "off the air"
> board. This is the Dallas radio board, and "I don't like
> religion" and "I don't like Bush" threads don't belong here.
>

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: I knew it was just a matter of time before Bruce barked

> But you wouldn't have even mentioned anything if the
> argument took a pro-Christian turn. I noticed you didn't
> even defend the original post that let folks know about a
> particular Christian station (or to encourage that poster to
> take his comments elsewhere, too.) You're in that
> watch-and-pounce mode that makes you neo-cons look
> ridiculous. Are you only into censorship? Protecting the
> ignorant people who can't think for themselves (and rely on
> you, the hero, to tell them "the truth"?) Or are you just
> promoting your personal agenda? And notice that you seem to
> be the only one who has a problem here. How does it feel to
> be a "minority" for once? And I take such comfort in
> knowing that questioning Bush makes one a "basher" or a
> "hater," and pondering the commercial aspects of
> Christianity makes one a "bigot." Perhaps **your**
> short-sighted, blinders-on view of life needs to be directed
> to another board. The rest of us are trying to function
> with **reality** as a basis.
>
> Lucky you, that you haven't struggled with your faith or
> ever questioned the blather that passes through your ears.
> Bless you, child. Bush's God has an eternal place reserved
> for you in Crawford.
>
> And, to keep this on a pertinent subject, I still won't
> listen to 89.7 FM.

Braindead is right. How dare someone criticize the religous zealots in broadcasting and their Bush Praise? If it was pro-religous broadcasting,they would never suggest it go to an off air topic as Braindead pointed out,but when a majority dare to criticize, they are the first to say 'remove it". 89.7 was smart to separate from KVTT and Ron Evans. Their agenda is so narrow in focus,it misses a lot on the landscape. Bill Bennett would diffently have them on his preset if he lived here.89.7 is not too far from the tree itself.

 

[dbryce]

Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

Christian Rock is a very interesting genre. It's like they're still stuck back in the era of Richard Marx.

I hear lots of Midi like it's the newest thing, or it's group singing, or the words and beat just really don't motivate me.

Bingo and I have had this discussion in the past about demons, rebellion, and fast paste music that influences the heart. From a Third party we both were unfortunately associated with thanks to my dating their daughter for half a decade. They would verbally beat this in to us, that what "motivated us" in music was that of Satan and we shouldn't listen to it cause we're going to hell. Anything that touched, shared a moment in your life, encouraged you to dance, or got you aroused was pure evil.

Yeah, I know that Radiator fluid has a sweet taste to it and I like the smell of Corn Syrup on a cold winter day that it gives off, but at least I know not to act on the "motivation" of scent and drink from the radiator.

Christian music has not arrived yet, it still sends an agenda, and it's not for everyone.

Take Nickelback's new song, "Photograph" There's a line in there about "The 2nd floor is hard for sneaking out". How many people did and did not live in a 2 story home? Whether you did or not, you can relate to the song and place any memory to a moment in time that you had. It can be a good feeling! This particular song plays better to the masses regardless of creed, race, or sex because it has to do with childhood. I’m just assuming that everyone has had a childhood and that not everyone is in to a Christian God.

I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned and thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in the back. I was told there was no time for that because I'll be praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to hell. They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I replied where else can I drink beer, and see something naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for an eternity?

Back to the topic, not everyone can get in to Christian Rock, just as much as some people can't get in to Rap. The difference is, with Rap, people look at you like "What ever" and move on. Christians have this sneaky way of using the music as a “meter” if you will. You reject the concept, and now you have 5 Christians on you anointing oils, asking you "If you died today, do you know where you'll go?" and not letting you go your own way until you sign up for new membership with GOD.

At least with Rap, if I say I don't like it, the worst is I'll get called a racist and everyone moves on. So I have to ask myself, what's the worst of the two evils? A day wasted to saying no thanks to a Christian and unwanted services, or lose 5 seconds to be called a Racist and back on with my life as I know it?

Bingo, I greatly apologize for putting you through hell dating that one girl. I fell for the bait, hook, line, and sinker. Can you ever forgive me pal?

Talk more later,

-Doc




> > > > Yes it is Christian Rock...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok... so what are the non-Christians supposed to listen
>
> > to?
> > >
> > >
> > > What we need is a Jewish Rock station, a Muslim Rock
> > > station, and a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...
> > >
> > > ...who's in?
> > >
> > Budist Rap,Hindu Hip Hop,athiest alternative,and Unitarian
>
>
> Do they do "Devil's horns" at Christian rock concerts??
>
> I am so going to hell...............
> <P ID="signature">______________
Doc Bryce Everybody!</P>

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Independent CHRISTIAN Rock Station?

> Christian Rock is a very interesting genre. It's like
> they're still stuck back in the era of Richard Marx.
>
> I hear lots of Midi like it's the newest thing, or it's
> group singing, or the words and beat just really don't
> motivate me.
>
> Bingo and I have had this discussion in the past about
> demons, rebellion, and fast paste music that influences the
> heart. From a Third party we both were unfortunately
> associated with thanks to my dating their daughter for half
> a decade. They would verbally beat this in to us, that what
> "motivated us" in music was that of Satan and we shouldn't
> listen to it cause we're going to hell. Anything that
> touched, shared a moment in your life, encouraged you to
> dance, or got you aroused was pure evil.
>
> Yeah, I know that Radiator fluid has a sweet taste to it and
> I like the smell of Corn Syrup on a cold winter day that it
> gives off, but at least I know not to act on the
> "motivation" of scent and drink from the radiator.


Very true Doc. It gives a concise perspective to "Holier than thou".
>
> Christian music has not arrived yet, it still sends an
> agenda, and it's not for everyone.
>
> Take Nickelback's new song, "Photograph" There's a line in
> there about "The 2nd floor is hard for sneaking out". How
> many people did and did not live in a 2 story home? Whether
> you did or not, you can relate to the song and place any
> memory to a moment in time that you had. It can be a good
> feeling! This particular song plays better to the masses
> regardless of creed, race, or sex because it has to do with
> childhood. I’m just assuming that everyone has had a
> childhood and that not everyone is in to a Christian God.
>
> I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in
> place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned and
> thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in the
> back. I was told there was no time for that because I'll be
> praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to hell.
> They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I
> replied where else can I drink beer, and see something
> naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for an
> eternity?
>
> Back to the topic, not everyone can get in to Christian
> Rock, just as much as some people can't get in to Rap. The
> difference is, with Rap, people look at you like "What ever"
> and move on. Christians have this sneaky way of using the
> music as a “meter” if you will. You reject the concept, and
> now you have 5 Christians on you anointing oils, asking you
> "If you died today, do you know where you'll go?" and not
> letting you go your own way until you sign up for new
> membership with GOD.
>
> At least with Rap, if I say I don't like it, the worst is
> I'll get called a racist and everyone moves on. So I have
> to ask myself, what's the worst of the two evils? A day
> wasted to saying no thanks to a Christian and unwanted
> services, or lose 5 seconds to be called a Racist and back
> on with my life as I know it?
>
> Bingo, I greatly apologize for putting you through hell
> dating that one girl. I fell for the bait, hook, line, and
> sinker. Can you ever forgive me pal?
>
> Talk more later,
>
> -Doc
>
>
>
>
> > > > > Yes it is Christian Rock...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok... so what are the non-Christians supposed to
> listen
> >
> > > to?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What we need is a Jewish Rock station, a Muslim Rock
> > > > station, and a Gothic Pagan Death Metal station...
> > > >
> > > > ...who's in?
> > > >
> > > Budist Rap,Hindu Hip Hop,athiest alternative,and
> Unitarian
> >
> >
> > Do they do "Devil's horns" at Christian rock concerts??
> >
> > I am so going to hell...............
> >
>

 

[Radio6]

Re: I knew it was just a matter of time before Bruce barked

Exactly. Thank you, Bruce Carter for showing exactly what rubs us the wrong way about holier-than-thou Christianists.


> > But you wouldn't have even mentioned anything if the
> > argument took a pro-Christian turn. I noticed you didn't
> > even defend the original post that let folks know about a
> > particular Christian station (or to encourage that poster
> to
> > take his comments elsewhere, too.) You're in that
> > watch-and-pounce mode that makes you neo-cons look
> > ridiculous. Are you only into censorship? Protecting the
>
> > ignorant people who can't think for themselves (and rely
> on
> > you, the hero, to tell them "the truth"?) Or are you just
>
> > promoting your personal agenda? And notice that you seem
> to
> > be the only one who has a problem here. How does it feel
> to
> > be a "minority" for once? And I take such comfort in
> > knowing that questioning Bush makes one a "basher" or a
> > "hater," and pondering the commercial aspects of
> > Christianity makes one a "bigot." Perhaps **your**
> > short-sighted, blinders-on view of life needs to be
> directed
> > to another board. The rest of us are trying to function
> > with **reality** as a basis.
> >
> > Lucky you, that you haven't struggled with your faith or
> > ever questioned the blather that passes through your ears.
>
> > Bless you, child. Bush's God has an eternal place
> reserved
> > for you in Crawford.
> >
> > And, to keep this on a pertinent subject, I still won't
> > listen to 89.7 FM.
>
> Braindead is right. How dare someone criticize the religous
> zealots in broadcasting and their Bush Praise? If it was
> pro-religous broadcasting,they would never suggest it go to
> an off air topic as Braindead pointed out,but when a
> majority dare to criticize, they are the first to say
> 'remove it". 89.7 was smart to separate from KVTT and Ron
> Evans. Their agenda is so narrow in focus,it misses a lot on
> the landscape. Bill Bennett would diffently have them on his
> preset if he lived here.89.7 is not too far from the tree
> itself.
>

 

[Sparkomatic]

Re: Doc

> I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in
> place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned and
> thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in the
> back. I was told there was no time for that because I'll be
> praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to hell.
> They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I
> replied where else can I drink beer, and see something
> naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for an
> eternity?

Don't worry, Doc. If you become a Christian someday, you'll be allowed to enjoy a good brew. As for seeing something naked, the Christian answer to THAT is to find yourself a wife you REALLY like seeing naked. And then get naked with her as much as you want.

And whoever was teaching you about Heaven should stick to teaching pre-school, because that was the kind of description you would offer a kid, not an adult. Bottom line: What awaits in Heaven is mostly a mystery. But you can rest assured that ALL your needs will be completely met.

 

[TrafficDude1970]

Re: Doc

> > I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in
> > place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned and
> > thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in the
>
> > back. I was told there was no time for that because I'll
> be
> > praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to
> hell.
> > They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I
> > replied where else can I drink beer, and see something
> > naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for
> an
> > eternity?
>
> Don't worry, Doc. If you become a Christian someday, you'll
> be allowed to enjoy a good brew. As for seeing something
> naked, the Christian answer to THAT is to find yourself a
> wife you REALLY like seeing naked. And then get naked with
> her as much as you want.
>
> And whoever was teaching you about Heaven should stick to
> teaching pre-school, because that was the kind of
> description you would offer a kid, not an adult. Bottom
> line: What awaits in Heaven is mostly a mystery. But you
> can rest assured that ALL your needs will be completely met.

Actually, he'll be praising Satan in hell. HIS hell will be NO beer, nude women, etc
>
<P ID="signature">______________
If you can deliver pizza, you can deliver the traffic </P>

 

[Phantom]

Re: Doc

> > > I was once told that when I die, Jesus has a mansion in
> > > place for me to live when I get to heaven. I grinned
> and
> > > thought pleasant thoughts about how I get to garden in
> the
> >
> > > back. I was told there was no time for that because
> I'll
> > be
> > > praising God. I asked 24/7? Screw that, I'm going to
> > hell.
> > > They asked why on earth would I want to go to hell? I
> > > replied where else can I drink beer, and see something
> > > naked? There's no beer in heaven! I have to worship for
>
> > an
> > > eternity?
> >
> > Don't worry, Doc. If you become a Christian someday,
> you'll
> > be allowed to enjoy a good brew. As for seeing something
> > naked, the Christian answer to THAT is to find yourself a
> > wife you REALLY like seeing naked. And then get naked
> with
> > her as much as you want.
> >
> > And whoever was teaching you about Heaven should stick to
> > teaching pre-school, because that was the kind of
> > description you would offer a kid, not an adult. Bottom
> > line: What awaits in Heaven is mostly a mystery. But you
>
> > can rest assured that ALL your needs will be completely
> met.


> Actually, he'll be praising Satan in hell. HIS hell will be
> NO beer, nude women, etc


Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!

Or purgatory ...

Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I think you do .

 

[dean1]

Re: Rock, religion & radio! Whoopee!

This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the dinner table.

Coupla things:

Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called himself a "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was wrongheaded prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced. In fact, Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his or her goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that person had better be better at following rules than the Pharisees themselves - who came up with 39 different definitions of "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today, these people would work in HR.

All but one of the main male disciples were hypocrites, or worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until showing up at the cross when every other male disciple ran for their lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon Zealotus was likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious hotheads. Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till the day he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in him until after Christ's resurrection, and then apparently only two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a mess. Today, these people would be program directors and consultants.

Stay with me.

The only individual who had the guts (or foolishness) to actually go first to the cemetery in person was Magdalene, whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't about research or surveys. It was about something much deeper. Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then. But guess who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?

Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock, radio, or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't about rules. Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called the idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at Galatia religious...instead of the other way around. Rules get people killed, or at least make them feel discouraged or hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as dead. Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules they can never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a church and find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves living differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and love each other. Everything else hinges on these two commandments." So it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first one right, and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong, and nothing else will work.

Which pretty much describes the state of radio and rock. The pioneers and innovators in those two fields took chances (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined genres and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it is in an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom you must buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out of the equation because rules are paramount - and easier for those who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone needs. Rules say "that's fine, but here's everything else we think you should do so we'll know whether you measure up". Reason says there's a tornado coming down main street, and people could get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't break format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless you want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW several years ago, for those new to the area).

This happens because those who make the rules forget what the point is in the first place.

While I might not agree with what you appreciate as good music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must appreciate you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules, but eventually human nature will rely on quantification through rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece of music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things change. Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by speaking to and for them. Whether something is commercially viable or profitable is no longer an imperative. What matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget the dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format, the genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool water to the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very well for the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a person crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong in the presence of honor, or right in its absence?

The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples and our doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene went to a grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive because somewhere out there, there are still one or two folks who make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station to meet Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will survive because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams of doing things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not whether his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness confound worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much fun...at least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.

One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't think God sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a fallen state, and it grieved him enough to do something about it. Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass away, our politics, idols, opinions, high-places, sanctimony and self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven is not a Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or liberals. It's where the things that break hearts and divide people are not.

I would also add that whenever American Christians encounter what they believe to be persecution, we ought to reflect on what our friends in other countries and times have had to endure. The fact is that persecution has always spread the Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem city limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted to feel very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers are commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially those things that give a chance to show the world that we handle things differently.

If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an earful, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.

What fun.

Jody





> > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I have
> noticed
> >
> > > that we all keep complaining on how there are not any
> good
> >
> > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > >
> > > May I remind you that we have an independent radio
> station
> >
> > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is
> Christian
> >
> > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on
> > > corporate radio, that we always complain about. Having
> > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on their
> > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about their
>
> > > listeners, and will even play a song request when you
> call
> >
> > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > >
> > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage area is
>
> > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5.
> THIS
> >
> > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays some
> > great
> > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it
> > out!!!!
> > >
> >
> > No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular Indie
>
> > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for
> SIRIUS.
> > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> >
> > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in Dallas?
> I
> > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The Choice
> used
> > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> >
> I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal, nobody
> here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
>

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Doc

>
>
> Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
>
> Or purgatory ...
>
> Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I think
> you do .
>
Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought, NAAAH.

 

[Phantom]

Re: Doc

> >
> >
> > Actually, hell is doing traffic, DUDE!
> >
> > Or purgatory ...
> >
> > Ask the space cadet, if you know whom I mean, and I think
> > you do .
> >
> Buc..er um Trafficdude know's that. On second thought,
> NAAAH.


Come on, come on!

Come clean ... you know the BUTT of the matter.

 

[Phantom]

Enough of the preaching JD the DJ ... geez

Geez whiz, JD the DJ ...

This a RADIO board ... not Theology 101 by Marconi's disciples.



> This is the kind of thread I usually only get at the dinner
> table.
>
> Coupla things:
>
> Not all the Pharisees were hypocrites. Nicodemus and Joseph
> of Arimithea come quickly to mind. Paul called himself a
> "Pharisee of Pharisees", and although he was wrongheaded
> prior to his conversion, he was far from two-faced. In fact,
> Jesus himself said that if one wanted to measure his or her
> goodness by the ability to abide rules, then that person had
> better be better at following rules than the Pharisees
> themselves - who came up with 39 different definitions of
> "work" based on just one verse from Exodus. Today, these
> people would work in HR.
>
> All but one of the main male disciples were hypocrites, or
> worse...and John didn't demonstrate much spine until showing
> up at the cross when every other male disciple ran for their
> lives. Matthew was a Roman collaborator. Simon Zealotus was
> likely an assassin. James and John were ambitious hotheads.
> Peter had trouble with moral consistency almost till the day
> he died. Even Jesus' own brothers didn't believe in him
> until after Christ's resurrection, and then apparently only
> two of them. Putting it bluntly, they were all a mess.
> Today, these people would be program directors and
> consultants.
>
> Stay with me.
>
> The only individual who had the guts (or foolishness) to
> actually go first to the cemetery in person was Magdalene,
> whom John says went alone and in the dark. It wasn't about
> research or surveys. It was about something much deeper.
> Today, Magdalene would be...alone. Just like then. But guess
> who the Bible says Jesus appeared to first?
>
> Here's the point - whether we're talking about rock, radio,
> or religion...the same concepts apply. It ain't about rules.
> Never has been. If it was, Paul would have called the
> idolatrous Athenians idiots and the Christians at Galatia
> religious...instead of the other way around. Rules get
> people killed, or at least make them feel discouraged or
> hopeless...which is pretty much the same thing as dead.
> Folks who walk into a church and encounter rules they can
> never live up to walk away. Folks who walk into a church and
> find mercy and compassion stay...and find themselves living
> differently. To paraphrase Jesus, "Love God, and love each
> other. Everything else hinges on these two commandments." So
> it's about relationship, not rules. Get the first one right,
> and the rest will follow. Get the first one wrong, and
> nothing else will work.
>
> Which pretty much describes the state of radio and rock. The
> pioneers and innovators in those two fields took chances
> (which churches are also supposed to do). The broke
> boundaries and went with their hearts. They combined genres
> and artforms. That's as hard to do in a church as it is in
> an industry that has "preferred vendors" from whom you must
> buy your TV spots or t-shirts. Life gets sucked out of the
> equation because rules are paramount - and easier for those
> who make them. Jesus said that he is all anyone needs. Rules
> say "that's fine, but here's everything else we think you
> should do so we'll know whether you measure up". Reason says
> there's a tornado coming down main street, and people could
> get killed. Rules say "we play ten in a row, and don't break
> format even for a tornado warning no matter what unless you
> want to get fired" (which actually happened here in DFW
> several years ago, for those new to the area).
>
> This happens because those who make the rules forget what
> the point is in the first place.
>
> While I might not agree with what you appreciate as good
> music, good formatics, or good liturgy, I must appreciate
> you. Rules negate that. They may be very good rules, but
> eventually human nature will rely on quantification through
> rules rather than empathetic relationship - which is
> necessary to a healthy church, radio station, piece of
> music, or heart. Once we apprehend that idea, things change.
> Churches stop running hurting people off. Radio gets
> creative and vibrant again. Music reaches people, by
> speaking to and for them. Whether something is commercially
> viable or profitable is no longer an imperative. What
> matters is whether it creates relationship. Forget the
> dogma, the preacher, the sign outside, the format, the
> genre, or the "rules". Does what we do offer cool water to
> the thirsty? Oddly, doing that also works out very well for
> the person with the canteen. Maybe not always in the
> short-term. In fact, that kind of thinking can get a person
> crucified. But would you rather have things go wrong in the
> presence of honor, or right in its absence?
>
> The Gospel survives in spite of its flawed disciples and our
> doctrines for precisely the same reason Magdalene went to a
> grave in the dark. Radio at its best will survive because
> somewhere out there, there are still one or two folks who
> make Richard Dreyfuss wanna drive out to the station to meet
> Wolfman in the middle of the night. Music will survive
> because some 14-year-old kid out there still dreams of doing
> things no one has ever done with an E-slide, and not whether
> his work will "sell". Watching such foolishness confound
> worldy wisdom is part of what makes life so much fun...at
> least for me. It drives the rule-makers nuts.
>
> One other, less lengthy note: Personally, I don't think God
> sees red and blue states. I think he sees us in a fallen
> state, and it grieved him enough to do something about it.
> Thankfully when these former things ultimately pass away,
> our politics, idols, opinions, high-places, sanctimony and
> self-satisfaction will also go in the trash. Heaven is not a
> Norman Rockwell painting, only with no taxes or liberals.
> It's where the things that break hearts and divide people
> are not.
>
> I would also add that whenever American Christians encounter
> what they believe to be persecution, we ought to reflect on
> what our friends in other countries and times have had to
> endure. The fact is that persecution has always spread the
> Gospel, which never would have left the Jerusalem city
> limits had its earliest adherents not been permitted to feel
> very, um...uncomfortable. In any event, Believers are
> commanded to give thanks in all things. Especially those
> things that give a chance to show the world that we handle
> things differently.
>
> If Jesus wouldn't give that ol' pervert Herod an earful,
> maybe we shouldn't be so quick to squeal.
>
> What fun.
>
> Jody
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > I read this board a lot and never post, but I have
> > noticed
> > >
> > > > that we all keep complaining on how there are not any
> > good
> > >
> > > > rock stations in DFW since the Eagle left.
> > > >
> > > > May I remind you that we have an independent radio
> > station
> > >
> > > > here in Dallas. KVRK, 89.7 Power FM. Yes it is
> > Christian
> > >
> > > > Rock, but its better than the stuff thats played on
> > > > corporate radio, that we always complain about.
> Having
> > > > worked as a vollenteer at Power FM,and being on their
>
> > > > street team, I know that they REALLY DO CARE about
> their
> >
> > > > listeners, and will even play a song request when you
> > call
> > >
> > > > in and request it unlike the other stations.
> > > >
> > > > Power FM is a rimshot station and their coverage area
> is
> >
> > > > similar to that of the old EDGE when it was at 94.5.
> > THIS
> > >
> > > > STATION IS NOT THE SAME AS KLTY. Power FM plays some
> > > great
> > > > Christian alternative, rock, and even metal. Try it
> > > out!!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > > No offence mate, but until I hear some good, secular
> Indie
> >
> > > or AAA stuff, I'm not interested. Thank goodness for
> > SIRIUS.
> > > I don't even bother with AM/FM anymore!
> > >
> > > Whatever happened to KTCU putting a translator in
> Dallas?
> > I
> > > swore I read that was happening somewhere... The Choice
> > used
> > > to play some quality Indie stuff.
> > >
> > I would love for Power FM to upgrade their signal, nobody
> > here in Dallas plays Bleach, Pillar etc.
> >
>