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IndyOldies.com

IT'S STEVE CANNON!!!!
 
radioho said:
IT'S STEVE CANNON!!!!
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I was gonna say...If WFDM could have tossed this calibre of Oldies on after they dumped the airstaff, why would they have put the lame satellite feed on?
 
107.9 is now has it's new format, so it clearly wasn't an incubator for them. I can't imagine that WFDM would go to the trouble to do it. I am guessing it just someone's hobby. Though with slots for advertising I am guessing they would like to monetize it at some point. Oldies fans should just enjoy it. It looks like it the closest thing that Indianapolis is going to get to an Oldies radio station.
 
I'm sure there could be more than ONE Steve Cannon - however, the day this thread first appeared here, the website was not yet complete and there were empty pages with /stevecannon1/ in the address directory. One of those pages was the Calendar page.

Anyone that has experience building a website knows how the folder process works, and would have easily caught that as well.

He either had something to do with the construction of the site, or it's his personal site. Why on XLW? Maybe that will be answered soon!
 
it sounds like that Puppy could go ONTHE AIRin minutes.. i would think Steve Cannon(or whoever) is responsible for this, must have better things to do than put up a world class Oldies website streamer... got to be a reason, hell, they have better jingles that KLU had... for my two cents it sounds better than JJK.. don't ya think that thing has run its course... c'mon! two Jack's in this market makes no sense.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
WJJK isnt a Jack station anymore and hasnt been since it dumped the Jack format and Branding for all out Classic Rock Hits. 107.9 Is a true Jack station now. 104.5 is a wanna be Q95
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wannabe is the right word. how many years? have they beat em' yet? GIVE UP, YOU CAN'T WIN!
JJK still has the calls(that people remember from Jack), and its a matter of Perception now.
 
I think WJJK is suppose to do to Q95 like I94 is suppose to do to Radio Now and WZPL and Knock them down a few rating Points. but I94 was roadkill before it even gets off the ground. 93.9 be lucky if they dont switch formats again before PPM comes in the Fall.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
I think WJJK is suppose to do to Q95 like I94 is suppose to do to Radio Now and WZPL and Knock them down a few rating Points. but I94 was roadkill before it even gets off the ground. 93.9 be lucky if they dont switch formats again before PPM comes in the Fall.
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well logic would dictate that is someone from inside JJK is involved AND since I-94 is tanking, THIS may be an opening for them to blow up I-94 and cut the losses. just sayin'..
 
I never understood what Cumulus was thinking when they took 93.9 CHR. we had young leaning CHR in WNOU, Adult leaning CHR in WZPL. Plus Radio Disney. why did they think they could go try to knock shares off of WNOU and WZPL being the 3rd CHR station in the market especially when they started off heavily recurrent Based. ive notices though lately they arent as heavily on the recurrents and Dayparted. but still they shouldnt have even attempted to been the 3rd CHR in a Market. i dont think many markets can support 3 CHR's. Heck some markets cant support 2 Sports talkers let a lone 3.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
I never understood what Cumulus was thinking when they took 93.9 CHR. we had young leaning CHR in WNOU, Adult leaning CHR in WZPL. Plus Radio Disney. why did they think they could go try to knock shares off of WNOU and WZPL being the 3rd CHR station in the market especially when they started off heavily recurrent Based. ive notices though lately they arent as heavily on the recurrents and Dayparted. but still they shouldnt have even attempted to been the 3rd CHR in a Market. i dont think many markets can support 3 CHR's. Heck some markets cant support 2 Sports talkers let a lone 3.
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FORMAT DUPLICATIONmakes no sense.. these people BUY into the 18-24 demo and EVERBODY decides they want them, fact is when you cut it more than 3 or 4 ways NOBODY wins. i would rather have a market exclusive format than be one of the runners up.
 
i think if there has to be a duplication it should be a max of 2 like formated stations in the market. which means I94 (CHR), XL 950 (Sports), Freedom 95.9 (NT) all need to find a new format because they are the 3rd in their respective format. I Can live with the Q/JJK, Zpl/NOU, FNI/NDE, IBC/XNT, FMS/Hank battles. but that means XLW, FDM, I94 shoud go looking for a new format. Oldies could work in a Simulcast for XLW/FDM
 
I guess I just don't get it. According to many posters here, the station that should "go" is the last one in? Is there no case to be made for attempting to do a format better (sure, it's subjective) than the other guys? The argument might be that they're doing a poor job of executing the format, but I don't think the answer is "no one should try."

Also, it could be that the finer points of the formats are lost on some of us who specialize in other formats. For instance, I couldn't tell you squat about the differences in the country stations, but I could in the rockers and to some extent the CHR/ACs. And blowing up a station thats only been on the air for a few months would perfectly illustrate what's wrong with radio today, especially considering the competition that you've all pointed to.
 
There are times it makes sense to be alone in a format, and times when it does not. I can't think of too many examples of stations that have picked up a recently ditched format and been an overwhelming success. In the late 80s, when WXTZ and many other BM stations gave up the ghost, someone almost always picked the format up (including the "new" WXTZ on 93.9) but no one stayed with it more than a couple of years. In my neck of the woods over in Dayton, long time BM powerhouse WHIO-FM flipped to country as K99.1, there were howls of protest including from the station's co-owned newspaper. A station in Piqua picked up the format and even some of the announcers, but flipped to A/C in a couple of years, then had a good run as an oldies station before being sold. Has 107.9 flipped to WKLU's old format, yes they would have gotten those listeners. They also would have fought the aging demos issues in a couple of years. I never thought 107.9 becoming a 50s and 60s oldies station and targeting 55 plus was going to happen. I could be the number one polka station in town, but not likely I'd make any money.
 
the radio graveyards are littered with people who THOUGHT they could do the SAME format better than the other 3 or 4 stations doing it, don't count on it and even IF you do, will anybody notice outside the radio community? and HOW LONG do you want to fight THAT fight? and how much do you want to lose doing it? example I-94...they MAY be better, than the competition..i don't know.. but appearantly the audience isn't willing to switch.

then there are stations that take up a format that has left, it may not work every time, but i can tell you this after more than 10 years with "Greatest Hits" the audience is PASSIONATE about it. remember when cbs-fm went to "Jack"- people were outraged when their station was taken away from them, now CBS-FM is not only BACK but getting TERRIFFIC ratings to boot. if someone takes up this format in Indianapolis and does it CORRECTLY, with a strong signal.Personality and promotion it will be in the top 2 or 3.

i'm NOT going to start an argument about "Aging" demographics, the mantra of people against this demographic has been heard over and over again, to the point that people keep saying it, hoping to make it the truth..just to say there is BIGOTRY involved and you don't want to go there... YOU too will be in this demographic sooner than you know. don't ever let them kick you to the curb as a listener. if you don't think there is POWER in this demographic look at the health care debate.
 
the radio graveyards are littered with people who THOUGHT they could do the SAME format better than the other 3 or 4 stations doing it, don't count on it and even IF you do, will anybody notice outside the radio community? and HOW LONG do you want to fight THAT fight? and how much do you want to lose doing it? example I-94...they MAY be better, than the competition..i don't know.. but appearantly the audience isn't willing to switch.
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This is perhaps the best argument for staying in a format for a long time even if the initial ratings and/or cash flow does not support it. Just because a format may not take off in the first 9-12 months doesn't mean it is a failure.

For instance, I rather liked Warm 93.9. However, it drew a measly one share. Why? Partly lack of external promotion, partly poor internal promotion. (Hint: a jockless format almost never draws large amounts of word-of-mouth). "I was listening to the radio and they played 'Mr. Bojangles'. OMG, I haven't heard that in years." That's useless to the station. How about "I was listening to Pidge and he played 'Mr. Bojangles'. OMG, I haven't heard that in years".

As far as why you'd buy a domain called "indyoldies.com" if its not going to be strongly associated with Indianapolis, I can't understand.
 
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