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[P2AC2]

Sources say "Ruben S" hit afternoons (solo) 2-6pm on 95.1 Latino Vibe Monday August 21st... also "MG's Morning Madhouse" hits the airwaves really soon!

 

[davideduardo]

Sources say "Ruben S" hit afternoons (solo) 2-6pm on 95.1 Latino Vibe Monday August 21st... also "MG's Morning Madhouse" hits the airwaves really soon!

Say "hi" to Josh.

 

[joshvilla]

Sources say "Ruben S" hit afternoons (solo) 2-6pm on 95.1 Latino Vibe Monday August 21st... also "MG's Morning Madhouse" hits the airwaves really soon!

Say "hi" to Josh.

Thanks David

 

[davideduardo]

Thanks David

Don't go swimmin' in any "Rivers" bro!

 

[joshvilla]

Don't go swimmin' in any "Rivers" bro!
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Sorry for the stupid question David but why? ???

 

[zumahans]

Sounds racist.

 

[davideduardo]

Don't go swimmin' in any "Rivers" bro!

Sorry for the stupid question David but why? ???
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Translate... river = ??

 

[davideduardo]

Sounds racist.

Nobody asked you.

 

[joshvilla]

Thanks David

Don't go swimmin' in any "Rivers" bro!

AHHHHHH!!!!!! I got it !!!!!!

 

[zumahans]

Sounds racist.

Nobody asked you.

I am offended that an anglo like yourself would tell a person of hispanic background not to swim in any rivers. The immigrant analogy is obvious.

And since you have never been shy about interjecting your racist attitudes into this board, I have every right to point out your hypocrisy.

I think it is a shame that you would call someone a gringo, or a immigrant. What's next, calling KDAY listeners n-----rs? Coming from you, this would not surprise me.

 

[rkchgo]

Sounds racist.

Nobody asked you.

I am offended that an anglo like yourself would tell a person of hispanic background not to swim in any rivers. The ------ analogy is obvious.

And since you have never been shy about interjecting your racist attitudes into this board, I have every right to point out your hypocrisy.

I think it is a shame that you would call someone a gringo, or a ------. What's next, calling KDAY listeners n-----rs? Coming from you, this would not surprise me.

It was *obviously* an inside joke, probably referring to someone specific. Stop looking for reasons to be pissy.

And no, I don't know David, *or* what he was talking about. And I am not hispanic. But when it is so obviously a specific reference, meant to imply something completely different, it's pretty ignorant to jump all over someone for it.

 

[joshvilla]

Sounds racist.

Nobody asked you.

I am offended that an anglo like yourself would tell a person of hispanic background not to swim in any rivers. The ------ analogy is obvious.

And since you have never been shy about interjecting your racist attitudes into this board, I have every right to point out your hypocrisy.

I think it is a shame that you would call someone a gringo, or a ------. What's next, calling KDAY listeners n-----rs? Coming from you, this would not surprise me.

I understand your concern regarding David's "comment", but "I" am not offended at all becuase all thought it took me a little while to understand his insinuation, he was not reffering to anything racist. He was reffering to someone with the last name "Rivers" in spanish, someone he and I both know. I appreciate your protective attitude but of all the people I know in this world, David is that absolute last one I would consider "Racist".

 

[zumahans]

Sounds racist.

Nobody asked you.

I am offended that an anglo like yourself would tell a person of hispanic background not to swim in any rivers. The ------ analogy is obvious.

And since you have never been shy about interjecting your racist attitudes into this board, I have every right to point out your hypocrisy.

I think it is a shame that you would call someone a gringo, or a ------. What's next, calling KDAY listeners n-----rs? Coming from you, this would not surprise me.

I understand your concern regarding David's "comment", but "I" am not offended at all becuase all thought it took me a little while to understand his insinuation, he was not reffering to anything racist. He was reffering to someone with the last name "Rivers" in spanish, someone he and I both know. I appreciate your protective attitude but of all the people I know in this world, David is that absolute last one I would consider "Racist".

David has a long history of making comments that the targets have felt were racist. I am not the first to call him out for his racial insensitivity.

I appreciate the insight you bring but I think the rivers joke is at best most insensitive, and again demonstrates a tin ear. He has a habit of making "innocuous" jokes that are, at best, racially-dubious.

 

[zumahans]

It was *obviously* an inside joke, probably referring to someone specific. Stop looking for reasons to be pissy.

And my post was *obviously* an inside joke, too. Stop acting pissy just because you don't get it.

The grand exalted know-it-all poobah of hispanic radio has stepped in dog poop more than once on this board, and just did again.

 

[davideduardo]

I think it is a shame that you would call someone a gringo, or a ------. What's next, calling KDAY listeners n-----rs? Coming from you, this would not surprise me.

"Gringo" is not racist. It comes from the Spanish word "griego" which means "Greek" which in the times of Cervantes was a term used for any foreigner or outsider.

In the early 18th Century, there are many references in South American literature and journals to "gringos" and they referred to "extranjeros" or foreigners; the Argentine epic oem, "Martín Fierro" has multiple references to "gringo" where it meant "someone not of or from the Pampa."

Unless an pejorative is added, like "pinche gringo" the term is neutral and today is used to define what we might also call "Anglos." But is also can be used to describe someone of fair complexion... a friend in high school was called "El Gringo Mantilla" although the Mantillas had been in Ecuador for about 400 years. Simply, he had fair hair and skin.

In Spanish, since you can not accurately call "Americans" as "Americanos" is is very easy to use gringo instead, with no offense intended. Heck, when I was in school, I did a US Top 40 show on HCEG1 that we called "Gringolandia." No offense intended there, either.

 

[KOHS]

"Gringo" is not racist. It comes from the Spanish word "griego" which means "Greek" which in the times of Cervantes was a term used for any foreigner or outsider.

In the early 18th Century, there are many references in South American literature and journals to "gringos" and they referred to "extranjeros" or foreigners; the Argentine epic oem, "Martín Fierro" has multiple references to "gringo" where it meant "someone not of or from the Pampa."

Unless an pejorative is added, like "pinche gringo" the term is neutral and today is used to define what we might also call "Anglos." But is also can be used to describe someone of fair complexion... a friend in high school was called "El Gringo Mantilla" although the Mantillas had been in Ecuador for about 400 years. Simply, he had fair hair and skin.

In Spanish, since you can not accurately call "Americans" as "Americanos" is is very easy to use gringo instead, with no offense intended. Heck, when I was in school, I did a US Top 40 show on HCEG1 that we called "Gringolandia." No offense intended there, either.

David,

The word "gringo" is listed as a pejorative, offensive slang or disparaging term in all of the online dictionaries I have browsed. Even in Brazil, where I have lived, gringo was an offensive term to describe anglo Americans.

You have a stellar list of referrences for the word, but the word remains offensive to many.

Just my $0.02.

 

[joshvilla]

Wow David it's kinda entertaining dont you think?

 

[davideduardo]

Wow David it's kinda entertaining dont you think?

???

It is amusing to see how widly misinterpreted the word really is...

Welcome to the world of radio message boards, where everyone is a gladiator.

 

[davideduardo]

The word "gringo" is listed as a pejorative, offensive slang or disparaging term in all of the online dictionaries I have browsed. Even in Brazil, where I have lived, gringo was an offensive term to describe anglo Americans.

You have a stellar list of referrences for the word, but the word remains offensive to many.

Just my $0.02.

The fact is that online dictionaries, for the most part, are worth every cent you pay for them.

The Oxford Smerican Dictionary, considered by many the most authoritative and researched of them all, does not show it as an insult except _in context_.

Since the word is Spanish (as in, from Spain), its use in Portuguese is not something I can comment on as I don't speak very good Portuguese. I will ask my daughter, who did several years of shcool in that language.

If you are offended by the term, you might consider this a learning experience. It is not offensive, and some friends call me by that name, too.

 

[zumahans]

Wow David it's kinda entertaining dont you think?

???

It is amusing to see how widly misinterpreted the word really is...

Welcome to the world of radio message boards, where everyone is a gladiator.

Leave your fantasies out of this. I am not going to put on your gladiator suit no matter how hard you ask.

The fact of the matter is that language changes. Saturday Night Live ran a classic sketch in 1975 that had Dan Ackroyd give Richard Pryor a supposed aptitude test, which resulted in Akroyd asking Pryor (a job applicant) to react to phrases. The words got uglier and ugliuer until Akroyd popped the n-word. Pryor reacted with "dead hockey (add an 'n' for full effect).

It was hysterical then.

It would be deeply racist and offensive now.

D-E just cannot understand that his experiences on another continent three decades ago are totally irrelevant, as is his rather charming and innocent assumption that gringo is not an insult.

Gringo, when used by native spanish speakers in both Alta and Baja California, is deeply offensive to me, and to many others. Take a poll and you would see that the dictionaries are correct: gringo is a nasty, perjorative word.

I have heard it used as a perjorative in Spanish by persons here in Los Angeles who have no idea I can hear and undertsand them and their intentional use as a slur.

But out on Planet David Eduardo de los Angeles de Nuestro Porniculo de Zapatos Limpios, it is not an epithet. That is his world, and how dare we challenge him when he knows so much better than the rest of us?