Internet Radio:

[Radio_bored-Op]

-I will remain professional here and just say ________.com
(hey, message me, happy to tell you the website)

...Simple Question:
Does the internet radio station, take it self way to SERIOUS?

With the day and age we live in...it is the potential to create a format
for a specific genre, produce quality imaging(?sp)[etc]...and really make an impact;

However, the online versions of "jack FM"(for example) ...really
do not have a handle on how to run a station!!! i am finding more and more
stations, that play tunes, talk til they are tired, and then pick another
*random* song.... is this good radio? i feel , not so.

I-Radio/As explained above:
...they think because of the instant messenger, and most likely
not knowing how many are tuned in .. they think the world is LISTENING.
and, like the(poorly executed) college radio show, that gets a few callers to stroke their
ego, they think they are theee SHOW on the aire! and keep the on aire material, so close
to the audience that is (1)friends, or (2) in the know, the newbie like myself, has no clue...
and when asked, it is usually *your fault*

Example:

-i just tuned into ___________.com and opened my messenger, to
tune in - and simply questioned why you went from the artist:
incubus to journey,
...said maybe not the best move...and boy the replies i got; i "offended"
soo many people because that was "their" request...and that I shouldnt
be speaking so harsh; to the DJ, and continued to a "furthermore" who
am i to dicate what is played; (etc, etc). . . i simply typed back "WOW"

-they tried to explain the elements of the "REQUESTS" to me...(which went
over like a lead balloon).

So,
...next dozen or so IM's/replies were continuing the point of driving
it into the ground of how the dj got upset because someone said he didn't like their music,
that i made the dj feel bad, and hurt their feelings....also added: that is not
what the dj wants to hear on their show that their music is "no good"
....i did say the break sounded "OK" but by this point
it was too late, i already offended the entire staff; because of my freely speaking
of the playlist....

am i the jerk ?
or is this station : ________ .com taking themselves to serioiusly???

 

[Radio_bored-Op]

Read this Post:

*this post* has the few type-oh's i cleaned up...but it was "too late"
to change, here is a little more efficent post:

-I will remain professional here and just say ________.com
(hey, message me, happy to tell you the website)

...Simple Question:
Does the internet radio station, take it self way to SERIOUS?

With the day and age we live in...it is the potential to create a format
for a specific genre, produce quality imaging(?sp)[etc]...and really make an impact;

However, the online versions of "jack FM"(for example) ...really
do not have a handle on how to run a station!!! i am finding more and more
stations, that play tunes, talk til they are tired, and then pick another
*random* song.... is this good radio? i feel , not so.

I-Radio/As explained above:
...they think because of the instant messenger, and most likely
not knowing how many are tuned in .. they think the world is LISTENING.
and, like the(poorly executed) college radio show, that gets a few callers to stroke their
ego, they think they are theee SHOW on the aire! and keep the on aire material, so close
to the audience that is (1)friends, or (2) in the know, the newbie like myself, has no clue...
and when asked, it is usually *your fault*

Example:

-i just tuned into ___________.com and opened my messenger, to
tune in - and simply questioned why you went from the artist:
incubus to journey,
...said maybe not the best move...and boy the replies i got; i "offended"
soo many people because that was "their" request...and that I shouldnt
be speaking so harsh; to the DJ, and continued to a "furthermore" who
am i to dicate what is played; (etc, etc). . . i simply typed back "WOW"

-they tried to explain the elements of the "REQUESTS" to me...(which went
over like a lead balloon).

So,
...next dozen or so IM's/replies were continuing the point of driving
it into the ground of how the dj got upset because someone said he didn't like their music,
that i made the dj feel bad, and hurt their feelings....also added: that is not
what the dj wants to hear on their show that their music is "no good"
....i did say the break sounded "OK" but by this point
it was too late, i already offended the entire staff; because of my freely speaking
of the playlist....

am i the jerk ?
or is this station : ________ .com taking themselves to serioiusly???

 

[d21ofnj]

Re: Read this Post:

*this post* has the few type-oh's i cleaned up...but it was "too late"
to change, here is a little more efficent post:

-I will remain professional here and just say ________.com
(hey, message me, happy to tell you the website)

...Simple Question:
Does the internet radio station, take it self way to SERIOUS?

With the day and age we live in...it is the potential to create a format
for a specific genre, produce quality imaging(?sp)[etc]...and really make an impact;

However, the online versions of "jack FM"(for example) ...really
do not have a handle on how to run a station!!! i am finding more and more
stations, that play tunes, talk til they are tired, and then pick another
*random* song.... is this good radio? i feel , not so.

I-Radio/As explained above:
...they think because of the instant messenger, and most likely
not knowing how many are tuned in .. they think the world is LISTENING.
and, like the(poorly executed) college radio show, that gets a few callers to stroke their
ego, they think they are theee SHOW on the aire! and keep the on aire material, so close
to the audience that is (1)friends, or (2) in the know, the newbie like myself, has no clue...
and when asked, it is usually *your fault*

Example:

-i just tuned into ___________.com and opened my messenger, to
tune in - and simply questioned why you went from the artist:
incubus to journey,
...said maybe not the best move...and boy the replies i got; i "offended"
soo many people because that was "their" request...and that I shouldnt
be speaking so harsh; to the DJ, and continued to a "furthermore" who
am i to dicate what is played; (etc, etc). . . i simply typed back "WOW"

-they tried to explain the elements of the "REQUESTS" to me...(which went
over like a lead balloon).

So,
...next dozen or so IM's/replies were continuing the point of driving
it into the ground of how the dj got upset because someone said he didn't like their music,
that i made the dj feel bad, and hurt their feelings....also added: that is not
what the dj wants to hear on their show that their music is "no good"
....i did say the break sounded "OK" but by this point
it was too late, i already offended the entire staff; because of my freely speaking
of the playlist....

am i the jerk ?
or is this station : ________ .com taking themselves to serioiusly???

It sounds to me that the station is stuck in the big shot mood. If the DJ can't handle a question like that, then don't do the station. It is a listener's right to question the playlist, and the DJ should just give a simple answer, not a paragraph, and not take it to heart. I had an internet station and I had more bad than good responses (mostly responses like why dance music?), but had a great STL and that's what kept me going. If they want to take this station seriously, the best way is to KEEP your listeners locked and don't accuse the listener for the way the DJ takes things. BTW, mind if I have that link so I can check it out?

 

[V.Riley]

Sounds as if that station or the DJ may be sensitive to negative comments, or maybe they just had a bad day. Of course I'm sure they understand that they can't make every listener happy. Also, if it is their station, and they are the one paying the bills, they can play what ever they want, whenever they want, its their happiness that matters. If some listeners happen to like it too, then that is just icing on the cake.

 

[LCJohn]

Re: Read this Post:

am i the jerk ?
or is this station : ________ .com taking themselves to serioiusly???

Or.... Maybe both.

Unlike terrestrial stations, many internet stations are hobbies, staffed by unpaid volunteers. These are people giving their time, and in most cases, spending their own money to operate a station out of a passion for the art of it, not for profit. Truth is, 95% of internet radio stations operate at a LOSS.

So it's quite likely that you're criticizing someone's hobby. You may be expecting someone else to have the same taste in music and/or playlist rotation as you do, or maybe you feel a need to point out that they are "doing it wrong" because you happen to disagree with their methods.

But that's - in my opinion - the beauty of small internet radio. People doing their own thing, their own way, and not conforming to a perceived set of rules (rules which, let's face it, haven't served terrestrial radio so well lately).

I usually ignore people who want to criticize my hard work. It's my art, so I'll do with it exactly as I please. If someone doesn't like it, there are plenty of alternatives out there. The delete key is a wonderful thing when you get email from people who like to pretend to be "experts" at telling you how to run your operation.

I've personally never understood why people receiving FREE content at someone else's expense feel any need to complain about it. Yes, I think they should perhaps be a little less sensitive - sounds like they could definitely handle criticism better, but maybe also you could find a station you like to listen to instead of trying to change those you don't like.

After all, If they're really "doing it all wrong", they won't last. Yes?

And if you think you can do better, maybe you should start your own station. It's a lot of fun.

 

[Radio_bored-Op]

You typed:
After all, If they're really "doing it all wrong", they won't last. Yes?

I didnt think it was revelant(?sp) til now, this is their 4th incarnation of
a "jack-FM" style format.... a fourth reVamp of a new name and
-dot-com domain... with no links to the previous and no hints to the next..

Curiously enough the dj--that i was having a "discussion" with is no longer w/
the station..as per commercial operations, no pic, no link, no explanation,or reason why.

I took a day or two to reflect, and here was my beef:
i just am "used to" the top40/sizzle, the edge of alt.rock, the wittiness of jockless FM
(spoken by the big voice); the "jukebox" FM, no liners, song to song, no voice overs,
no id's. . . is just ... well, feels some thing is missing.

 

[V.Riley]

I took a day or two to reflect, and here was my beef:
i just am "used to" the top40/sizzle, the edge of alt.rock, the wittiness of jockless FM
(spoken by the big voice); the "jukebox" FM, no liners, song to song, no voice overs,
no id's. . . is just ... well, feels some thing is missing.

You are absolutely right. Without the DJ, liners, voice overs, sweepers, jingles and station IDs you might as well be listening to some kids iPod on shuffleplay. Radio Station imaging is important part of a station.

 

[d21ofnj]

I took a day or two to reflect, and here was my beef:
i just am "used to" the top40/sizzle, the edge of alt.rock, the wittiness of jockless FM
(spoken by the big voice); the "jukebox" FM, no liners, song to song, no voice overs,
no id's. . . is just ... well, feels some thing is missing.

You are absolutely right. Without the DJ, liners, voice overs, sweepers, jingles and station IDs you might as well be listening to some kids iPod on shuffleplay. Radio Station imaging is important part of a station.

I felt a similar when I was doing a station on Live365. I thought it was just another iPod shuffleplay just with liners. I couldn't afford the pro package deals they offered nor any other programs a few years ago. I know some people don't mind to listen to stations without any DJ's, but I don't know how people can enjoy listening to gaps in between songs and consider it a radio station, regards if it's a personal station. I had sweepers, jingles, liners, you name it, but even in my point of view, I really wasn't feeling the whole gap between songs broadcast.

 

[unpwn]

A station, no matter what station or outlet, should always be getting people to think they're the best. Even if they're not. You aren't going to go on the air and say, "hey, we suck, but you might dig this song".
However, the "station" getting all bent outta shape due to a comment is outta line. At that moment you must realize that this DJ isn't professional, nor experienced. In the real world, jocks don't put so much emotion into what they play. Even if it IS their choice, they realize that not everyone likes the same things, and too only focus on the ones who like what you do is downright retarded.
I would just pick your battles and realize this one isn't worth it. Internet radio stations can be run on ZERO funding, so wishing that they just "go outta business" is just a waste of a wish.

 

[Radio_bored-Op]

I agree
please refrain the improper use of the "R" word.
(retarded). Thank You.

 

[snailboy]

speaking from my point of view, my company has 5 internet stations and all of our stations donot make any money. I have been putting money into all of the stations for liners, sweepers and even keeping the ip going. You can not have everybody liking what you do, let them voice their thoughts or what ever and move on. I had friends say your station needs to play more classic rock...cool that's not our format.

 

[V.Riley]

Internet radio stations can be run on ZERO funding, so wishing that they just "go outta business" is just a waste of a wish.

I agree with all that you said, except for the "ZERO funding". Maybe zero outside funding, if the station doesn't grow to big, of the owner has deep pockets. However, their is the cost for the initial stream, and unless you are using something like streamer p2p, you also have the cost of a streaming host, maybe even the cost of the electricity to run the computer that is streaming the content 24x7. Oh, and if your legal, and you should be, there is that co$t.

ZERO funding, must be what the Copyright Royalty Board things it cost to run an Internet Radio station.