"Is HD Radio/IBOC ...a fraud and a farce?"

[700WLW]

"Is HD Radio/IBOC ...a fraud and a farce?"

Look guys, I'm famous ! I guess, that shill for HD Radio/IBOC got my email ! Nothing, like getting the word out - I sound a bit angry, maybe I wrote it, after a run-in over here ! Funny, that shill never replied to me ! Hey Tom, at least I spelled "farce" correctly this time, or did I ?

http://aoprep.blogspot.com/2006/12/is-hd-radioiboc-fraud-and-farce.html

 

[radiofriend1]

no

 

[Mike Walker]

It would be a "fraud" or "farce" only if it didn't work (look up the definition!) Once my antenna was aligned, I have (after many hours of listening from a deep fringe location, with an indoor antenna) NEVER experienced a dropout. Not a single time.

Some "farce".

 

[tankedsecondchance]

boy wonder why "radio and records" removed the digital radio section from its news section..... hd and satrad both gone.............??

wonder what the motive is.....sad

interesting move, go vnu/blackstone/cc online,wonder if its all about the internet this new year......

 

[dumber than a box of hair]

It would be a "fraud" or "farce" only if it didn't work (look up the definition!) Once my antenna was aligned, I have (after many hours of listening from a deep fringe location, with an indoor antenna) NEVER experienced a dropout. Not a single time.

Some "farce".

You're kidding, right? "Once my antenna was aligned?" How many average radio users are going to go to that kind of trouble to make a radio work? The conditioning provided by decades of open-the-box-put-in-the-batteries-or-plug-it-in-and-turn-it-on answers that question with a big fat goose egg. Buyers of these radios will do what they've been doing for the past few decades...and when they can't receive all the signals their old radios got, the HD radios will be returned as defective.

Ya gotta remember: We who post here are radio geeks or radio professionals. We are not the average listener, who just wants it to work without putting in a whole lot of effort. Whether that's a good thing or not, it's the current reality. Having to fiddle with antennas is, whether we like it or not, a step backwards, and a step which the average Joe won't bother with.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

It would be a "fraud" or "farce" only if it didn't work (look up the definition!) Once my antenna was aligned, I have (after many hours of listening from a deep fringe location, with an indoor antenna) NEVER experienced a dropout. Not a single time.

Some "farce".

Wrong, again!
I looked up the definitions, of "fraud" and "farce" in various sources, and found no such phrase, as "only if it didn't work". (At all?)
Hawking an inferior, destructive, unnecessary, expensive, product or service, by deception, seems to fit the definitions of "fraud" and "farce". Hybrid HD Radio certainly fits.

Here are just a few of the wild, deceptive claims made for HD Radio by proponents:

The Same Unmatched Fidelity as Your Digital Music

FM stations now with CD-quality sound
AM stations now with FM-quality sound
Crystal-clear reception with no audio distortion
New artists and new personalities
New genres, new music from abroad
New kinds of programs you’ve never listened to before
New experimental formats that no one has ever heard
New channels to play more of what you like to hear
More talk and music from the stations you’re plugged into
More complete sets and more full albums
More in-depth interviews
More lengthy talk and more detailed news
All digital, all the time
No hiss, distortion or station drop off

Source:
http://www.hdradio.com/what_is_hd_digital_radio.php

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/fraud.htm

fraud [ frawd ] (plural frauds)


noun

Definition:

1. crime of cheating somebody: the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception


2. somebody who deceives: somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain


3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people
a story that was subsequently exposed as a fraud


[14th century. Via Old French < Latin fraud- "cheating, fraud"]

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/hawking.html

4. aggressive competitor: a fiercely competitive, aggressive, predatory, or combative person
a marketing hawk who wanted to put the competition out of business


5. ruthless swindler: a ruthless con man or other swindler who preys on unsuspecting victims

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/farce.html

farce [ faarss ] (plural farc·es)


noun

Definition:

1. absurd situation: a ridiculous situation in which everything goes wrong or becomes a sham

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/farce

4 a : ridiculous or empty show b : MOCKERY </dictionary/mockery> <the enforcement of this law became a farce>

Posted by: dumber than a box of hair

You're kidding, right? "Once my antenna was aligned?" How many average radio users are going to go to that kind of trouble to make a radio work? The conditioning provided by decades of open-the-box-put-in-the-batteries-or-plug-it-in-and-turn-it-on answers that question with a big fat goose egg. Buyers of these radios will do what they've been doing for the past few decades...and when they can't receive all the signals their old radios got, the HD radios will be returned as defective.

 

[700WLW]

Don't forget the traffic reports ! Every one of these is falsely claimed:

FM stations now with CD-quality sound
AM stations now with FM-quality sound
Crystal-clear reception with no audio distortion
New artists and new personalities
New genres, new music from abroad
New kinds of programs you’ve never listened to before
New experimental formats that no one has ever heard
New channels to play more of what you like to hear
More talk and music from the stations you’re plugged into
More complete sets and more full albums
More in-depth interviews
More lengthy talk and more detailed news
All digital, all the time
No hiss, distortion or station drop off

What, a bunch of B.S. !

 

[Black_Shire]

Is this Les Nessman? -- Black Shire

It would be a "fraud" or "farce" only if it didn't work (look up the definition!) Once my antenna was aligned, I have (after many hours of listening from a deep fringe location, with an indoor antenna) NEVER experienced a dropout. Not a single time.

Some "farce".

Wrong, again!
I looked up the definitions, of "fraud" and "farce" in various sources, and found no such phrase, as "only if it didn't work". (At all?)
Hawking an inferior, destructive, unnecessary, expensive, product or service, by deception, seems to fit the definitions of "fraud" and "farce". Hybrid HD Radio certainly fits.

Here are just a few of the wild, deceptive claims made for HD Radio by proponents:

The Same Unmatched Fidelity as Your Digital Music

FM stations now with CD-quality sound
AM stations now with FM-quality sound
Crystal-clear reception with no audio distortion
New artists and new personalities
New genres, new music from abroad
New kinds of programs you’ve never listened to before
New experimental formats that no one has ever heard
New channels to play more of what you like to hear
More talk and music from the stations you’re plugged into
More complete sets and more full albums
More in-depth interviews
More lengthy talk and more detailed news
All digital, all the time
No hiss, distortion or station drop off

Source:
http://www.hdradio.com/what_is_hd_digital_radio.php

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/fraud.htm

fraud [ frawd ] (plural frauds)


noun

Definition:

1. crime of cheating somebody: the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception


2. somebody who deceives: somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain


3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people
a story that was subsequently exposed as a fraud


[14th century. Via Old French < Latin fraud- "cheating, fraud"]

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/hawking.html

4. aggressive competitor: a fiercely competitive, aggressive, predatory, or combative person
a marketing hawk who wanted to put the competition out of business


5. ruthless swindler: a ruthless con man or other swindler who preys on unsuspecting victims

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/farce.html

farce [ faarss ] (plural farc·es)


noun

Definition:

1. absurd situation: a ridiculous situation in which everything goes wrong or becomes a sham

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/farce

4 a : ridiculous or empty show b : MOCKERY </dictionary/mockery> <the enforcement of this law became a farce>

Posted by: dumber than a box of hair

You're kidding, right? "Once my antenna was aligned?" How many average radio users are going to go to that kind of trouble to make a radio work? The conditioning provided by decades of open-the-box-put-in-the-batteries-or-plug-it-in-and-turn-it-on answers that question with a big fat goose egg. Buyers of these radios will do what they've been doing for the past few decades...and when they can't receive all the signals their old radios got, the HD radios will be returned as defective.