Bob Goldberg - "I'm cooler because I listen to cooler music and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else likes".
What're you about 15?
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Is Jack the problem or are the listeners the problem?
- Thread starter RobertGoldberg
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OK Bob, over and out.
> zzzzzzzzzz snore.....
>
>
> That is probably the most articulate thing you've ever said.
> For your next lesson try and use a two syllable word.
>
> zzzzzzzzzz snore.....
>
>
> That is probably the most articulate thing you've ever said.
> For your next lesson try and use a two syllable word.
>
> Bob Goldberg - "I'm cooler because I listen to cooler music
> and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> likes".
>
> What're you about 15?
>
I have hundreds of oldies records as well as other type of music. Just because you can't listen to two differnt types of music together is your problem not mine. You are the poster boy for mediocrity.
Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same 10 songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5 cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
What are you about, 3?
> and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> likes".
>
> What're you about 15?
>
I have hundreds of oldies records as well as other type of music. Just because you can't listen to two differnt types of music together is your problem not mine. You are the poster boy for mediocrity.
Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same 10 songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5 cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
What are you about, 3?
While it may be successful in L.A., don't forget it's
> L.A., love and marriage usually lasts a little less than
> year. Hardly something you'd want to bet the beach on.
And this is what passes as intelligence? What exactly do you know about LA? Have you ever lived in LA? How much time have you spent in LA? What's your source of information? Instead of soundbites why not try posting actual facts for a change? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
> L.A., love and marriage usually lasts a little less than
> year. Hardly something you'd want to bet the beach on.
And this is what passes as intelligence? What exactly do you know about LA? Have you ever lived in LA? How much time have you spent in LA? What's your source of information? Instead of soundbites why not try posting actual facts for a change? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Why do you hide behind a fake handle? What are you afraid of?
> OK Bob, over and out.
>
> > zzzzzzzzzz snore.....
> >
> >
> > That is probably the most articulate thing you've ever
> said.
> > For your next lesson try and use a two syllable word.
> >
>
> OK Bob, over and out.
>
> > zzzzzzzzzz snore.....
> >
> >
> > That is probably the most articulate thing you've ever
> said.
> > For your next lesson try and use a two syllable word.
> >
>
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> > "Bob Goldberg - "I'm cooler because I listen to cooler
> music
> > and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> > likes".
> >
> > What're you about 15?"
> >
> "Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same 10
> songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5
> cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
>
> What are you about, 3?"
>
Nice retort and pompous too. I don't want to make this personal but c'mon, Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin Scelsa, And the Proffessa..The words, Scotso on your radio....Can you say BORING... I knew you could. How about Ted Brown, Willie B, Jim Lowe. Three other air personalities who were amongst the best in the business or Dan Ingram, B Mitchel Reed, Dan Daniel, each a terrific personality in their own right. Radio is as much about the presentation as it is the music. We can discuss musical taste and what does and what doesn't constitute quality and I will admit that as far as Album rock stations go, WNEW FM was amongst the best. BUT, in my opinion, musically and presentation wise... IT STUNK. Your comments come across as being very intolerent and snobish. Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the words, the music, the BS. Musically WNEW appealed to a white suburban audience. The WCBS FM air staff were personality jocks, not card readers. If you listened to the station for any reasonable amount of time you'd never call them card readers and at one time WCBS FM had one of the largest playlists in the country. Stations like CBS FM appealed to EVERYBODY and Jack?, As the lowest rated NY FM station, it appeals to .. I can't think of who it appeals to.
> music
> > and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> > likes".
> >
> > What're you about 15?"
> >
> "Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same 10
> songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5
> cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
>
> What are you about, 3?"
>
Nice retort and pompous too. I don't want to make this personal but c'mon, Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin Scelsa, And the Proffessa..The words, Scotso on your radio....Can you say BORING... I knew you could. How about Ted Brown, Willie B, Jim Lowe. Three other air personalities who were amongst the best in the business or Dan Ingram, B Mitchel Reed, Dan Daniel, each a terrific personality in their own right. Radio is as much about the presentation as it is the music. We can discuss musical taste and what does and what doesn't constitute quality and I will admit that as far as Album rock stations go, WNEW FM was amongst the best. BUT, in my opinion, musically and presentation wise... IT STUNK. Your comments come across as being very intolerent and snobish. Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the words, the music, the BS. Musically WNEW appealed to a white suburban audience. The WCBS FM air staff were personality jocks, not card readers. If you listened to the station for any reasonable amount of time you'd never call them card readers and at one time WCBS FM had one of the largest playlists in the country. Stations like CBS FM appealed to EVERYBODY and Jack?, As the lowest rated NY FM station, it appeals to .. I can't think of who it appeals to.
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Re: RE: JACK is the problem
Perhaps NYC
> can learn something from the entertainment capitol of the
> world.
>
Where LA might be called the entertainment capitol of the world (and I can debate that) if you knew anything about the history of the entertainment industry you'd realize that the movie studios and television industry moved there strictly due to the favorable weather conditions in the south west. Today many movie and television projects originate in NYC. NY is the home of the Broadway stage and is the economic (think Wall Street) and cultural capitol of the world. You want LA, great enjoy it and all it has to offer. I and over 15,000,000 others will take NYC.
Perhaps NYC
> can learn something from the entertainment capitol of the
> world.
>
Where LA might be called the entertainment capitol of the world (and I can debate that) if you knew anything about the history of the entertainment industry you'd realize that the movie studios and television industry moved there strictly due to the favorable weather conditions in the south west. Today many movie and television projects originate in NYC. NY is the home of the Broadway stage and is the economic (think Wall Street) and cultural capitol of the world. You want LA, great enjoy it and all it has to offer. I and over 15,000,000 others will take NYC.
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> I'm sure you can't wait to hear "I Got You Babe" for the
> millionth time. That's Cool!
>
Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me, I'll take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
> millionth time. That's Cool!
>
Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me, I'll take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
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"Technology is rendering radio
> less and less relevant each year. That's the reality."
I don't agree with this statement. I believe that as in the days when television came on the scene and radio faced the challenge and recreated itself, the same will have to take place again. Don't write radios epitaph so quickly.
> less and less relevant each year. That's the reality."
I don't agree with this statement. I believe that as in the days when television came on the scene and radio faced the challenge and recreated itself, the same will have to take place again. Don't write radios epitaph so quickly.
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Really? Then explain to me why it's working in LA, the number two market in the country and the number one revenue market. Explain why it's holding steady in Chicago, where the demos are getting younger and more saleable. LA and Chicago are not small cities. Jack works if it's programmed right, and it's not a "small market" phenomenon. New York is not that different.
New York's Jack has it's issues, not the least of which is it replaced a heritage station. I will also concede that the music isn't quite right on 101.1, but when you play a wide variety of genres, that problem can easily be corrected. I'm sure that Infinity is doing audience research and will tweak with the music mix on Jack in the coming months. With WPLJ bringing back Rocky Allen and talking more, that station is sounding cluttered. It's a huge opportunity for Jack to steal away listeners who want to hear more music in PM drive.
Jack is still in it's infancy. There are no "worst to firsts" like Z100 in radio anymore. New stations take time to develop, especially ones that don't target youth demos. Jack may never be a top 5 12+ station, but it will find it's niche, just watch. A lot of people were ready to give up on Mix 102.7 and their disco "KTU classic" format just a few months after it's launch. It has taken that station over a year to find it's footing, and now it's getting ratings similar to WPLJ, which has historically been a very good billing station. Jack-FM should follow a similar path.
--Mike Thomas
> Answer: It's a stupid idea. Do you really think that because
> a variety of played out hits and a few that have had the
> dust blown off is what people have been looking for? And
> because you're the superior intellect everyone else is
> stupid and unsophisticated because they don't like the idea?
> Sickening.
>
> It's a small market style type format. It's laughable. Even
> those who know nothing about radio get thrown for a loop
> with the transitions of music. It's absolutely the dumbest
> idea for a major market I've ever heard. It's like they went
> to the salvation army and got a bunch of cds for 10 cents a
> piece and played them as they came in. Just because they're
> playing variety doesn't mean it's a variety PEOPLE want to
> hear or like. That's not about being sophisticated or
> superior it's about NOT LIKING IT.
New York's Jack has it's issues, not the least of which is it replaced a heritage station. I will also concede that the music isn't quite right on 101.1, but when you play a wide variety of genres, that problem can easily be corrected. I'm sure that Infinity is doing audience research and will tweak with the music mix on Jack in the coming months. With WPLJ bringing back Rocky Allen and talking more, that station is sounding cluttered. It's a huge opportunity for Jack to steal away listeners who want to hear more music in PM drive.
Jack is still in it's infancy. There are no "worst to firsts" like Z100 in radio anymore. New stations take time to develop, especially ones that don't target youth demos. Jack may never be a top 5 12+ station, but it will find it's niche, just watch. A lot of people were ready to give up on Mix 102.7 and their disco "KTU classic" format just a few months after it's launch. It has taken that station over a year to find it's footing, and now it's getting ratings similar to WPLJ, which has historically been a very good billing station. Jack-FM should follow a similar path.
--Mike Thomas
> Answer: It's a stupid idea. Do you really think that because
> a variety of played out hits and a few that have had the
> dust blown off is what people have been looking for? And
> because you're the superior intellect everyone else is
> stupid and unsophisticated because they don't like the idea?
> Sickening.
>
> It's a small market style type format. It's laughable. Even
> those who know nothing about radio get thrown for a loop
> with the transitions of music. It's absolutely the dumbest
> idea for a major market I've ever heard. It's like they went
> to the salvation army and got a bunch of cds for 10 cents a
> piece and played them as they came in. Just because they're
> playing variety doesn't mean it's a variety PEOPLE want to
> hear or like. That's not about being sophisticated or
> superior it's about NOT LIKING IT.
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"LA and
> Chicago are not small cities. Jack works if it's programmed
> right, and it's not a "small market" phenomenon. New York is
> not that different."
I keep reading this same mantra over and over again. The belief that NYC is just another city. Not true at all. NY is the media capitol of the world and the radio audience here is very sophisticated. Our's is the city where most programming originates from. Look at the numbers population numbers. Sure LA is a big city, but 10 million doesn't come close to 15 million. NY is far and away market one in this country and where the strip mall and Wallmart thrive nationally, they don't exist here in the city of NY. What about London or Sydney? Think they are ripe for the same programming as stations in Tulsa? They are also English speaking major cities. Unless you've lived here for many years you'd have no idea.
>
> New York's Jack has its issues, not the least of which is
> it replaced a heritage station.
I love this one. WNEW FM was also a Heritage station as was WNEW AM, WABC AM, WMCA, & WINS, before it. The problem with WCBS FM was that it had very healthy numbers (top 10, 25 - 54) and the audience was left with no place else to go and the change was so abrupt, giving the long standing & stable air staff less than 1 hour notice, that the audience was offended. Smart way to do business.
"I will also concede that the music isn't quite right on 101.1"
It's perfect for Tacoma or Aimes, but whoever programmed this knows nothing about the musical tastes of NY residents.
>" Jack is still in it's infancy. There are no "worst to
> firsts" like Z100 in radio anymore."
We change the rules as the game is played. A recent change (within a few years) was Jammin'. It was top ten in the first book, because with promotion people sampled the format. THAT is what usually happens with a format change. Over time the audience drifted away. Unfortunately for Jack, there's not much audience left to drift away.
" A lot of people were ready to give up on
> Mix 102.7 and their disco "KTU classic" format just a few
> months after it's launch. It has taken that station over a
> year to find it's footing, and now it's getting ratings
> similar to WPLJ"
And WNEW FM is a DOG. It's got terrible ratings. Sure better than what they had 6 months ago but still after all the formats they tried and all the tweaking its still one of the bottom feeding FM outlets in NYC. You want to trade a top 10 station for what WNEW bills? If so, let me know where you work so I know not to buy stock in your company and WPLJ, bad example of sighting success.
"WPLJ has always been a marginal player in NY.
which has historically been a very good
> billing station."
WRONG!!
"Jack-FM should follow a similar path."
It will if those in charge continue running the operation..Right down the drain.
>
> --Mike Thomas
> Chicago are not small cities. Jack works if it's programmed
> right, and it's not a "small market" phenomenon. New York is
> not that different."
I keep reading this same mantra over and over again. The belief that NYC is just another city. Not true at all. NY is the media capitol of the world and the radio audience here is very sophisticated. Our's is the city where most programming originates from. Look at the numbers population numbers. Sure LA is a big city, but 10 million doesn't come close to 15 million. NY is far and away market one in this country and where the strip mall and Wallmart thrive nationally, they don't exist here in the city of NY. What about London or Sydney? Think they are ripe for the same programming as stations in Tulsa? They are also English speaking major cities. Unless you've lived here for many years you'd have no idea.
>
> New York's Jack has its issues, not the least of which is
> it replaced a heritage station.
I love this one. WNEW FM was also a Heritage station as was WNEW AM, WABC AM, WMCA, & WINS, before it. The problem with WCBS FM was that it had very healthy numbers (top 10, 25 - 54) and the audience was left with no place else to go and the change was so abrupt, giving the long standing & stable air staff less than 1 hour notice, that the audience was offended. Smart way to do business.
"I will also concede that the music isn't quite right on 101.1"
It's perfect for Tacoma or Aimes, but whoever programmed this knows nothing about the musical tastes of NY residents.
>" Jack is still in it's infancy. There are no "worst to
> firsts" like Z100 in radio anymore."
We change the rules as the game is played. A recent change (within a few years) was Jammin'. It was top ten in the first book, because with promotion people sampled the format. THAT is what usually happens with a format change. Over time the audience drifted away. Unfortunately for Jack, there's not much audience left to drift away.
" A lot of people were ready to give up on
> Mix 102.7 and their disco "KTU classic" format just a few
> months after it's launch. It has taken that station over a
> year to find it's footing, and now it's getting ratings
> similar to WPLJ"
And WNEW FM is a DOG. It's got terrible ratings. Sure better than what they had 6 months ago but still after all the formats they tried and all the tweaking its still one of the bottom feeding FM outlets in NYC. You want to trade a top 10 station for what WNEW bills? If so, let me know where you work so I know not to buy stock in your company and WPLJ, bad example of sighting success.
"WPLJ has always been a marginal player in NY.
which has historically been a very good
> billing station."
WRONG!!
"Jack-FM should follow a similar path."
It will if those in charge continue running the operation..Right down the drain.
>
> --Mike Thomas
> > I'm sure you can't wait to hear "I Got You Babe" for the
> > millionth time. That's Cool!
> >
> Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me, I'll
> take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
>
Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
> > millionth time. That's Cool!
> >
> Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me, I'll
> take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
>
Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
Re: RE: JACK is the problem
> Perhaps NYC
> > can learn something from the entertainment capitol of the
> > world.
> >
> Where LA might be called the entertainment capitol of the
> world (and I can debate that) if you knew anything about the
> history of the entertainment industry you'd realize that the
> movie studios and television industry moved there strictly
> due to the favorable weather conditions in the south west.
> Today many movie and television projects originate in NYC.
> NY is the home of the Broadway stage and is the economic
> (think Wall Street) and cultural capitol of the world. You
> want LA, great enjoy it and all it has to offer. I and over
> 15,000,000 others will take NYC.
>
If you knew anything about anything you'd know that movies studios and TV industry has been based in LA for over 50 years. It doesn't matter the reason for it moving to LA, it's in LA and that's the important thing.
Meanwhile LA radio has an Oldies station, Standards station, Country station and an FM talk station. New York has none of them. Same corporate owners in both places. LA radio might suck but NYC radio sucks more with less diversity.
> Perhaps NYC
> > can learn something from the entertainment capitol of the
> > world.
> >
> Where LA might be called the entertainment capitol of the
> world (and I can debate that) if you knew anything about the
> history of the entertainment industry you'd realize that the
> movie studios and television industry moved there strictly
> due to the favorable weather conditions in the south west.
> Today many movie and television projects originate in NYC.
> NY is the home of the Broadway stage and is the economic
> (think Wall Street) and cultural capitol of the world. You
> want LA, great enjoy it and all it has to offer. I and over
> 15,000,000 others will take NYC.
>
If you knew anything about anything you'd know that movies studios and TV industry has been based in LA for over 50 years. It doesn't matter the reason for it moving to LA, it's in LA and that's the important thing.
Meanwhile LA radio has an Oldies station, Standards station, Country station and an FM talk station. New York has none of them. Same corporate owners in both places. LA radio might suck but NYC radio sucks more with less diversity.
> > > "Bob Goldberg - "I'm cooler because I listen to cooler
> > music
> > > and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> > > likes".
> > >
> > > What're you about 15?"
> > >
>
> > "Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same
> 10
> > songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5
> > cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
> >
> > What are you about, 3?"
> >
> Nice retort and pompous too. I don't want to make this
> personal but c'mon, Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin
> Scelsa, And the Proffessa..The words, Scotso on your
> radio....Can you say BORING... I knew you could. How about
> Ted Brown, Willie B, Jim Lowe. Three other air personalities
> who were amongst the best in the business or Dan Ingram, B
> Mitchel Reed, Dan Daniel, each a terrific personality in
> their own right. Radio is as much about the presentation as
> it is the music. We can discuss musical taste and what does
> and what doesn't constitute quality and I will admit that as
> far as Album rock stations go, WNEW FM was amongst the best.
> BUT, in my opinion, musically and presentation wise... IT
> STUNK. Your comments come across as being very intolerent
> and snobish. Try to understand, most people aren't
> interested in the words, the music, the BS. Musically WNEW
> appealed to a white suburban audience. The WCBS FM air staff
> were personality jocks, not card readers. If you listened to
> the station for any reasonable amount of time you'd never
> call them card readers and at one time WCBS FM had one of
> the largest playlists in the country. Stations like CBS FM
> appealed to EVERYBODY and Jack?, As the lowest rated NY FM
> station, it appeals to .. I can't think of who it appeals
> to.
>
Nobody is as pompus or snobish as you Bob. Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin
Scelsa, Allison Steele, Rosko, Johnathan Schwartz and Scott Muni weren't boring, they were all above your head Bob.
>Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the words, the music, the BS.
YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far. Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm. I guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you shouldn't even speak for yourself.
> > music
> > > and you listen to stupid pop music that everyone else
> > > likes".
> > >
> > > What're you about 15?"
> > >
>
> > "Fake name musicloverII - "I like to listen to the same
> 10
> > songs day after day with the same lame dj's reading 3X5
> > cards. Yeah, that's the ticket."
> >
> > What are you about, 3?"
> >
> Nice retort and pompous too. I don't want to make this
> personal but c'mon, Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin
> Scelsa, And the Proffessa..The words, Scotso on your
> radio....Can you say BORING... I knew you could. How about
> Ted Brown, Willie B, Jim Lowe. Three other air personalities
> who were amongst the best in the business or Dan Ingram, B
> Mitchel Reed, Dan Daniel, each a terrific personality in
> their own right. Radio is as much about the presentation as
> it is the music. We can discuss musical taste and what does
> and what doesn't constitute quality and I will admit that as
> far as Album rock stations go, WNEW FM was amongst the best.
> BUT, in my opinion, musically and presentation wise... IT
> STUNK. Your comments come across as being very intolerent
> and snobish. Try to understand, most people aren't
> interested in the words, the music, the BS. Musically WNEW
> appealed to a white suburban audience. The WCBS FM air staff
> were personality jocks, not card readers. If you listened to
> the station for any reasonable amount of time you'd never
> call them card readers and at one time WCBS FM had one of
> the largest playlists in the country. Stations like CBS FM
> appealed to EVERYBODY and Jack?, As the lowest rated NY FM
> station, it appeals to .. I can't think of who it appeals
> to.
>
Nobody is as pompus or snobish as you Bob. Dennis Elsas, Pete Fornatale, Vin
Scelsa, Allison Steele, Rosko, Johnathan Schwartz and Scott Muni weren't boring, they were all above your head Bob.
>Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the words, the music, the BS.
YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far. Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm. I guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you shouldn't even speak for yourself.
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> > > I'm sure you can't wait to hear "I Got You Babe" for the
>
> > > millionth time. That's Cool!
> > >
> > Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> > Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me,
> I'll
> > take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
> >
>
>
> Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
>
Why do you make that argument? Did I condem the WNEW listener when their station flipped formats? No I did not. I'm 49 years old and have worked in network radio in NYC for about 28 years. I have some credentials and know of what I speak. The snob is the one who condemns someone elses music or form of entertainment because it's so lower class and simplistic compared to what the nightbird plays. Who's the snob now? Ask that last question while looking in a mirror.
>
> > > millionth time. That's Cool!
> > >
> > Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> > Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me,
> I'll
> > take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
> >
>
>
> Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
>
Why do you make that argument? Did I condem the WNEW listener when their station flipped formats? No I did not. I'm 49 years old and have worked in network radio in NYC for about 28 years. I have some credentials and know of what I speak. The snob is the one who condemns someone elses music or form of entertainment because it's so lower class and simplistic compared to what the nightbird plays. Who's the snob now? Ask that last question while looking in a mirror.
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>
> Nobody is as pompus or snobish as you Bob. Dennis Elsas,
> Pete Fornatale, Vin
> Scelsa, Allison Steele, Rosko, Johnathan Schwartz and Scott
> Muni weren't boring, they were all above your head Bob.
Are you as ignortant as the wiords you spew? DSo yoou sincerely believe if I am not entertained by the aformentioned people you mention is because they are "above me". If you believe that not only are you more ignorant than I could imagine, it's time for your attendent to turn off the computer.
>
> >Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the
> words, the music, the BS.
>
> YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far.
> Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the
> words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm. I
> guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You
> should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you
> shouldn't even speak for yourself.
>
You left out the BS. Look Robert, if you think that WNEW was as popular as any of the top 40 stations of it's day, you are only fooling yourself. WNEW FM appealed to White suburbanites. I take it from what you are telling me that only White suburban young people have the intelect to enjoy the talents of the nasal Pete Fornatale. That was the audience for NEW FM. It had little or no urban (and I mean people living in the boroughs) appeal. If I were you, I'd stop patting myself on the back before you dig too deep a hole. As my friend who has worked in NYC radio since the 60's always tells me when I relate these tales spun by other web posters.. Why do you bother with these people?
> Nobody is as pompus or snobish as you Bob. Dennis Elsas,
> Pete Fornatale, Vin
> Scelsa, Allison Steele, Rosko, Johnathan Schwartz and Scott
> Muni weren't boring, they were all above your head Bob.
Are you as ignortant as the wiords you spew? DSo yoou sincerely believe if I am not entertained by the aformentioned people you mention is because they are "above me". If you believe that not only are you more ignorant than I could imagine, it's time for your attendent to turn off the computer.
>
> >Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the
> words, the music, the BS.
>
> YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far.
> Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the
> words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm. I
> guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You
> should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you
> shouldn't even speak for yourself.
>
You left out the BS. Look Robert, if you think that WNEW was as popular as any of the top 40 stations of it's day, you are only fooling yourself. WNEW FM appealed to White suburbanites. I take it from what you are telling me that only White suburban young people have the intelect to enjoy the talents of the nasal Pete Fornatale. That was the audience for NEW FM. It had little or no urban (and I mean people living in the boroughs) appeal. If I were you, I'd stop patting myself on the back before you dig too deep a hole. As my friend who has worked in NYC radio since the 60's always tells me when I relate these tales spun by other web posters.. Why do you bother with these people?
> > > > I'm sure you can't wait to hear "I Got You Babe" for
> the
> >
> > > > millionth time. That's Cool!
> > > >
> > > Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> > > Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me,
> > I'll
> > > take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
> >
> Why do you make that argument? Did I condem the WNEW
> listener when their station flipped formats? No I did not.
> I'm 49 years old and have worked in network radio in NYC for
> about 28 years. I have some credentials and know of what I
> speak. The snob is the one who condemns someone elses music
> or form of entertainment because it's so lower class and
> simplistic compared to what the nightbird plays. Who's the
> snob now? Ask that last question while looking in a mirror.
>
Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I condem the format that plays the same songs over and over. I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
> the
> >
> > > > millionth time. That's Cool!
> > > >
> > > Better that than Metalica or the Beastie Boys or Bruce
> > > Springstein and his wimpy Jersey shore rock. As for me,
> > I'll
> > > take the Bonnevilles Zu Zu any day. That is NY music.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Talk about a snob Bob, you take the cake.
> >
> Why do you make that argument? Did I condem the WNEW
> listener when their station flipped formats? No I did not.
> I'm 49 years old and have worked in network radio in NYC for
> about 28 years. I have some credentials and know of what I
> speak. The snob is the one who condemns someone elses music
> or form of entertainment because it's so lower class and
> simplistic compared to what the nightbird plays. Who's the
> snob now? Ask that last question while looking in a mirror.
>
Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I condem the format that plays the same songs over and over. I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
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>
> Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I
> condem the format that plays the same songs over and over.
> I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most
> other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement
> about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are
> proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
Robert, C'mon pal, I was using those artists as a way of relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio. Let's try to do a litttle better, OK? Look Jack so far is a failure. Les Hollindar today in the Daily News was almost bragging that with patience over the period of a year they've gotten WNEW FM's ratings up to a 2.1. That's truly a pathetic thing to brag about. Oh and I am not a physician. I am a broadcaster. Perhaps you think I'm someone else?
> Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I
> condem the format that plays the same songs over and over.
> I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most
> other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement
> about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are
> proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
Robert, C'mon pal, I was using those artists as a way of relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio. Let's try to do a litttle better, OK? Look Jack so far is a failure. Les Hollindar today in the Daily News was almost bragging that with patience over the period of a year they've gotten WNEW FM's ratings up to a 2.1. That's truly a pathetic thing to brag about. Oh and I am not a physician. I am a broadcaster. Perhaps you think I'm someone else?
> Are you as ignortant as the wiords you spew? DSo yoou
> sincerely believe if I am not entertained by the
> aformentioned people you mention is because they are "above
> me". If you believe that not only are you more ignorant than
> I could imagine, it's time for your attendent to turn off
> the computer.
I do think they were above you Bob. You just didn't get it and still don't.
> > >Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the
> > words, the music, the BS.
> >
> > YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far.
>
> > Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the
>
> > words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm.
> I
> > guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You
> > should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you
> > shouldn't even speak for yourself.
> >
>
> You left out the BS. Look Robert, if you think that WNEW was
> as popular as any of the top 40 stations of it's day, you
> are only fooling yourself. WNEW FM appealed to White
> suburbanites. I take it from what you are telling me that
> only White suburban young people have the intelect to enjoy
> the talents of the nasal Pete Fornatale. That was the
> audience for NEW FM. It had little or no urban (and I mean
> people living in the boroughs) appeal. If I were you, I'd
> stop patting myself on the back before you dig too deep a
> hole. As my friend who has worked in NYC radio since the
> 60's always tells me when I relate these tales spun by other
> web posters.. Why do you bother with these people?
>
Just because Top 40 was more popular doesn't make it better radio Bob. Your snob side is showing once again Bob. Whats wrong with a station that attracted "White" young people? What's wrong with a station that opened up the minds of people? What's wrong with a station that introduced a lot of music that wasn't getting played on AM radio? You are a total snob Bob and a waste of space.
> sincerely believe if I am not entertained by the
> aformentioned people you mention is because they are "above
> me". If you believe that not only are you more ignorant than
> I could imagine, it's time for your attendent to turn off
> the computer.
I do think they were above you Bob. You just didn't get it and still don't.
> > >Try to understand, most people aren't interested in the
> > words, the music, the BS.
> >
> > YIKES. That is the most moronic statment I've read so far.
>
> > Lets see, according to you people aren't interested in the
>
> > words or music when they listen to the radio. hmmmmmmm.
> I
> > guess they only want to hear the DJ's & commercials You
> > should never speak for other people Bob. In fact you
> > shouldn't even speak for yourself.
> >
>
> You left out the BS. Look Robert, if you think that WNEW was
> as popular as any of the top 40 stations of it's day, you
> are only fooling yourself. WNEW FM appealed to White
> suburbanites. I take it from what you are telling me that
> only White suburban young people have the intelect to enjoy
> the talents of the nasal Pete Fornatale. That was the
> audience for NEW FM. It had little or no urban (and I mean
> people living in the boroughs) appeal. If I were you, I'd
> stop patting myself on the back before you dig too deep a
> hole. As my friend who has worked in NYC radio since the
> 60's always tells me when I relate these tales spun by other
> web posters.. Why do you bother with these people?
>
Just because Top 40 was more popular doesn't make it better radio Bob. Your snob side is showing once again Bob. Whats wrong with a station that attracted "White" young people? What's wrong with a station that opened up the minds of people? What's wrong with a station that introduced a lot of music that wasn't getting played on AM radio? You are a total snob Bob and a waste of space.
> >
> > Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I
> > condem the format that plays the same songs over and over.
>
> > I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most
> > other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement
>
> > about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are
> > proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
>
> Robert, C'mon pal, I was using those artists as a way of
> relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio.
> Let's try to do a litttle better, OK? Look Jack so far is a
> failure. Les Hollindar today in the Daily News was almost
> bragging that with patience over the period of a year
> they've gotten WNEW FM's ratings up to a 2.1. That's truly a
> pathetic thing to brag about. Oh and I am not a physician. I
> am a broadcaster. Perhaps you think I'm someone else?
>
Please, enough with your silly remark. You were using those artists as a way of
relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio, yet you bring up Bonnevilles as real New York artists. Who are you trying to kid? How many CD's did the Bonnevilles sell last year? How about in the last 40 years? How many stations are playing the Bonnevilles? Talk about an artist that "doesn't sell in NY radio"
Physician heal thyself is a saying like look in the mirror, with the same meaning. I guess that went over your head.
> > Fraud alert. I never condemed someone else's music. I
> > condem the format that plays the same songs over and over.
>
> > I condem the endless repitition of Oldies radio and most
> > other music stations. You are a snob Bob. Your statement
>
> > about Metalica, the Beastie Boys & Bruce Springstein are
> > proof of that. Physican heal thyself.
>
> Robert, C'mon pal, I was using those artists as a way of
> relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio.
> Let's try to do a litttle better, OK? Look Jack so far is a
> failure. Les Hollindar today in the Daily News was almost
> bragging that with patience over the period of a year
> they've gotten WNEW FM's ratings up to a 2.1. That's truly a
> pathetic thing to brag about. Oh and I am not a physician. I
> am a broadcaster. Perhaps you think I'm someone else?
>
Please, enough with your silly remark. You were using those artists as a way of
relating the type of music that doesn't sell in NY radio, yet you bring up Bonnevilles as real New York artists. Who are you trying to kid? How many CD's did the Bonnevilles sell last year? How about in the last 40 years? How many stations are playing the Bonnevilles? Talk about an artist that "doesn't sell in NY radio"
Physician heal thyself is a saying like look in the mirror, with the same meaning. I guess that went over your head.
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