If Stern couldn't bring enough subscribers to help save Sirius, how does anyone expect Russ to? No one outside this market knows him. Stern is more versatile, he actually has content and does interviews with interesting people. All Russ can do is play fart noises and blow things up. Maybe okay for free radio, but when you have to pay a fee to listen, not so much.
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Is Russ Martin Going to Satalite Radio?
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lilly64 said:
not for nothing, but that exact same argument could be made for ANY format/personality/station for satellite radio.
If stern, the music, the "variety", the sports, the talk, the lack of commercials and all the other things satellite touts as an advantage over terrestrial radio what made them every think anyone would pay for what they can essentially get for free?
I doubt anyone is sitting in an office somewhere saying "this is the GUY who will save satellite radio", or this is the MUSIC, SPORT, STATION or FORMAT that will "save" satellite radio.
Each personality appeals to different people. Person A may not like what person B likes. (so person A calls person B names lol), more or less the definition of variety.
As for the argument that he is no different or the same or a copy or whatever else people like to trot out, to you.. sure. But not to everyone.
I would be willing to wager to a lot of people, all reggae sounds the same, all rap sounds the same, all classical sounds the same, all country sounds the same or all rock sounds the same. All political talk sounds the same, you get the point.
It's ironic that people complain and complain about the death or either forms of radio and how it's dying but the idea of variety (mind you, just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean you speak for all) seems to be universally hated. It's never as good as the good old days and all that jazz. I dunno about you, but 10-15-20 years ago, was there as much variety on the radio the b!tch about? (not complaining about the complaining, but illustrating a point)
"like we need another rap/r&b/tejano/country/talk station!!"... sound familiar??
yes.... yes we do.
lilly64 said:
Hmmmmm....... Howard Stern mornings, Russ Martin afternoons. I seem to remember a station that did pretty well when that combo was the program schedule.
I dunno if the RMS will be on satellite I'm just speculating here.
scrtr84 said:
Game recognize game, Hey when Gary came down and met Russ he said he was impressed by what Russ had done in radio. I'm not saying it WILL happen. Just speculating. Stern realizes that his ship is on the downturn. Why not bring in someone that can bring numbers in the afternoon. BTW who is on in the afternoon on Stren's channel? I have no idea.
Russ is irrelevant. Russ has nothing to offer to anyone except 70,000 or so, now very bored middle aged white guys in the DFW area. Russ is a hack. He stole his bits from other shows around the country (like the liquid a$$ bit he stole from Bubba, JD's News from Howard, Pron Stars, again from Howard, etc.).
Russ only worked in DFW because he had a VERY loyal base here. A (talent like) Mark Davis could do it (he has talent). Russ is simply shock value, unoriginal shock value. Of no interest to anyone outside the 214/917 (just ask Austin).
Russ only worked in DFW because he had a VERY loyal base here. A (talent like) Mark Davis could do it (he has talent). Russ is simply shock value, unoriginal shock value. Of no interest to anyone outside the 214/917 (just ask Austin).
Wow, Russ is only relevant in the 214 area code meaning the cities inside the 635 loop and the 917 area code meaning cell phone users in New York. What a strange pattern 105.3 has.
RUSS is great. Next time you want to slam him get your facts straight.
RUSS is great. Next time you want to slam him get your facts straight.
returnofbongo said:
Still beating that same ole tired "bongo" of how much Russ sucked. Your just mad he was/is far more successful than you will ever be. :
board monkey said:
Good idea, but I think the Hardline just signed a new contract with KTCK, so they're probably not available.
But I do believe in the last couple of books where Russ and the Hardline were competing, the Ticket was #1 in that M25-54 demo, while Russ was sucking hind teat in something like 6th or 8th place.
THAT is why they let him go. Not so much the arrest, but the fact that advertisers didn't want to buy into his show AND the fact that he was making ridiculous (#1 in the demo) money while he was only getting #7 in the demo ratings...
little1 said:
Why does this remind me of the difference between the electoral college and the popular vote? :
You're right, he is still making that ridiculous money, no argument there. The point I'm being contrarian about is the assertion that he can 'bring numbers in the afternoon'.slueth said:
Did he "bring numbers" 5 years ago. Sure, you betcha. Had his numbers the last couple of years been anything close to what they were back then? No way, no how.
Ive got a lot of respect for Russ. Good for him for still making money for sitting on the beach. But let's not forget reality. He's off the air because of his legal troubles, the fact that he's not advertiser friendly, and he was making a ridiculous amount of money in relation to the ratings he was getting.
Way too much time being devoted to Batman, or whatever childhood action hero car he drives around in and dresses up as. Russ should hit his knees every morning and thank God and Howard Stern for the small success that he has had in this industry. He did pretty well for a mediocre rip off artist. However, I would recommend counseling from a good financial adviser. Maybe then the for sale sign won't have to go in the yard the same day you are let go from your job.
I am still having a hard time deciding if Russ is a "has been" or a "never was". I am leaning towards the latter.
I am still having a hard time deciding if Russ is a "has been" or a "never was". I am leaning towards the latter.
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tex192
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You're right SaveDFW...30+ years in radio definitely equates to a "never was"...and I listened to both Stern and Russ I never got the whole "rip-off" argument that some claimed. They were the same genre, but that's about were the comparisons end for me. I mean there are only so many things one can do with the types of shows they have and both Stern and Russ did them well at the same time.
Personally, I think Russ' biggest problem is, he got too old for radio. In his final years on KLLI, he was repeating old bits, racking up too much dead air and becoming such a bore. There's the old saying that one should quit when one is ahead. Russ probably stayed too long.
Of course we can probably say some of the same things about Stern.
Of course we can probably say some of the same things about Stern.
I don't think Russ got too old for radio (see Paul Harvey). And anyone who doesn't see what a hack Russ is just doesn't want to see. Go back to the original issue, could Russ be of any value to anyone outside DFW? He is of no value inside the 214/972/817. And he has NEVER proven that he could drive ratings anywhere else (see the Austin disaster). Russ got big BECAUSE of Howard. He could never repeat without a strong Morning Drive (which is why HE would never DO morning drive), besides, PPM would show that his listeners didn't listen as long as they said they did on the traditional diary. There goes the TSL. Once that is gone, his low CUME translates to pretty dismal ratings. It looks like getting canned when he did was the best thing that could have happened to him because, as referenced, he is still getting big checks.
Stern is in his 50s. It has nothing to do with age, ManCow is younger, he had way more success than Martin, way less than Stern. Male oriented talk is a difficult business, you are either very smart (Jim Rome), or very talented/ original (Stern). Martin is neither. He was in the right place at the right time withan AMAZING amount of assistance. Find me another PD stupid enough to let his talent do what Martin did to Spittle? Find another GM like David Henry. No well respected broadcaster would let that happen. They made Martin, not the other way around. Then his routine just got old, in a bad economy and a really dumb act on his part.
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Stinkymess
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Update on the RMS from the Dallas Observer
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2009/03/russ_martin_update_nothing_her.php
One more thing Trey, it's spelled SLEUTH.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2009/03/russ_martin_update_nothing_her.php
One more thing Trey, it's spelled SLEUTH.
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