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Is WVKO AM in trouble??

willcail said:
Sean Gilbow is right. WVKO is off a good start and aiming to beat the lower rated talk stations first is the right thing to do. WVKO AM beats WYTS and the station needs to beat the other local low rated (since WLW AM is from cincy and on a 50K watts stick) talkers.
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They're on the boards...I agree the Jones lineup is certainly better than much of what's on Air America. Even though I don't always agree with Ed Schultz, I have always said on this board that he and Stephanie were the 2 prog-talkers that I thought had the best shot at success.

I never suggested 'VKO should be focused on "beating" TVN...that ain't gonna happen. Signal will keep it from happening. They are 5 KW at the low end of the band...VKO is 3.something at the very high end of the band where AM is the least efficient. Signal beats signal unless 'TVN really screws up (which, even with some of the recent cuts I don't expect to see happen). But, you never focus on low-hanging fruit on the tree...you shoot for the coconuts at the top. And since the station had a somewhat rocky start, aiming for TVN is the overall goal to shoot for, even if it's not practically possible. (That's just competitive sense...) But yes, you must crawl before you can walk.

Glad to hear they're attracting advertisers...if the ratings development continues at a steady pace, they should do OK.

I'm sure the Clippers broadcasts are attracting some advertising, too...in the fall, they should be planning some high school sports broadcasts, even if the night signal's weakness means you replay the game, say...on Saturday morning to keep advertisers happy.
 
The only thing that WTDA have going for them is Bob and Tom and Shark on Sports. That is where they are getting their ratings. Glenn Beck and Dennis aired time delayed. Glenn Beck have uninformed opinions like when it comes to Keith Ellison the first muslin to be elected to the Congress. Haven't Glenn heard that there is NO RELIGOUS TEST when it comes to elected office in the Federal Goverment. Dennis Milller is just a washed up hack how mumbles into the mic.

Plus WTDA signal is not reachable in downtown Columbus. I can pick it up on my Radiosophy HD100 just fine using a flat dipole FM antenna (Since I live in a downtown columbus apartment on the top floor. I can pick it up just fine. Downtown Columbus walking on the street using my Radio Shack Tri-Band digital tuner radio not so much. I have to be in Westerville to listen to it. Yes I don't own a car. I do rent one when needed. No reason to spend money on gas. Their tower is located around South Old Highway, bad location.

WVKO AM can beat WTDA. Since their ratings trends never goes above a 2 share. Their Winter 2008 book shows a 1.4 not a 2.2. Summer 2007 Book shows a 1.0 share. Please get your facts straight. WTDA need to dropped Dennis Miller and get someone better.
 
willcail said:
The only thing that WTDA have going for them is Bob and Tom and Shark on Sports. That is where they are getting their ratings. Glenn Beck and Dennis aired time delayed. Glenn Beck have uninformed opinions like when it comes to Keith Ellison the first muslin to be elected to the Congress. Haven't Glenn heard that there is NO RELIGOUS TEST when it comes to elected office in the Federal Goverment. Dennis Milller is just a washed up hack how mumbles into the mic.

Plus WTDA signal is not reachable in downtown Columbus. I can pick it up on my Radiosophy HD100 just fine using a flat dipole FM antenna (Since I live in a downtown columbus apartment on the top floor. I can pick it up just fine. Downtown Columbus walking on the street using my Radio Shack Tri-Band digital tuner radio not so much. I have to be in Westerville to listen to it. Yes I don't own a car. I do rent one when needed. No reason to spend money on gas. Their tower is located around South Old Highway, bad location.

WVKO AM can beat WTDA. Since their ratings trends never goes above a 2 share. Their Winter 2008 book shows a 1.4 not a 2.2. Summer 2007 Book shows a 1.0 share. Please get your facts straight. WTDA need to dropped Dennis Miller and get someone better.
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I think, perhaps you misread my post. Sure, WVKO can beat WTDA. They're not likely to beat WTVN (which is what I said above), due largely to signal limitations being high up on the AM band with lesser coverage. Plus, we'll have to see how prog-talk develops here. I will admit, though, 'VKO does have a better selection of progressive talkers than some stations I've heard.

It's OK for you to feel Glenn Beck has uninformed opinions. But, he gets good radio numbers in quite a few markets. Had it not been for that, Headline News would have never considered him for TV.

Please remember...I'm arguing radio and ratings here...I don't care about your political philosophy. Which, with all due respects, is the problem with some posters here. It ain't about right vs. left. It's about radio and entertainment!

You want to argue politics? Call your favorite talk show host, be they right or left. And radio programming is not won or lost based upon a particular host's view on a particular subject.
 
willcail said:
WVKO AM can beat WTDA. Since their ratings trends never goes above a 2 share. Their Winter 2008 book shows a 1.4 not a 2.2. Summer 2007 Book shows a 1.0 share. Please get your facts straight.
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Willcail, you asked me to get my facts straight? You may want to read my post again. You are quoting 12+ numbers. Maybe I should have spelled out Monday through Sunday 6am to 12pm with Men, 25 to 54 instead of my abbreviated (M-SU: M25-54). And I never wrote 2.2, I wrote 2.1. Sorry for the confusion. As your friend Paul Harvey would say... Have a good day!
 
I'm sorry Image99Seven that you have a very hard time understanding ratings. WTDA FM receives a 1.4 share. When WYTS was WTPG the highest rating it got was a 1.5. Face it WTDA is very beatable. Glenn Beck does get ratings then again there isn't much choice when it comes to talk radio. Don't say NPR witch is completely different from commercial radio. Then Glenn Beck still doesn't understand the constitution when it comes. Article VI, section 3 states that there ...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. Now I would like to see how you spin this as opinion. So the whole swearing in using a religious text is purely ceremonial.
 
No...

Image997 seems to grasp it just fine. You, willcail, are missing the point that Image997 was quoting a demographic, not the broad 12+ that you are.

Image99Seven knows his stuff.
 
willcail said:
CC have WLW (so far) in Cincy, WTVN in C-Bus and WTAM in Cleveland. Those are on decent 5K sticks. WVKO is on a decent 3200 watts and they are getting new advertisers.
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Hate to be a nitpicker but WLW and WTAM are both 50,000 watters, and yes WTVN is only 5,000 watts but have a hell of a coverage area (I have listened to WTVN west of Indianapolis and south of Lexington during the day).
 
gabigley1 said:
I would like to hear MORE local talk shows. Five hours a week is just not enough.
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My guess is you're referring to "What's What with Mike Cole" weeknights from 6 to 7.

But WVKO also has local talk on Saturday with "Today's Total Woman," "Urban Trendsetters," "Radio Outlook" and "The Blue State Diner."
 
I was in Columbus this past weekend, and had an occasion—or five to listen to WVKO. Since my sister lives just east of I-270 and north of Morse Road [near Easton], the WVKO signal is very strong there [interestingly in the overwhelmingly-CONSERVATIVE/Republican northeast side of C-Bus].

For purpose of “full disclosure”—I’m a political MODERATE who has not cast a ballot for our current sad-excuse for a President [I voted Libertarian on ‘00 and ‘04]. I am a full supporter of a healthy “progressive” radio voice! I may not agree with 100% of the content [about 20% would be an accurate assessment], but I’m relieved that they offer a counterpoint to the bluster of Rush and his sidekick wannabe—Hannity. I must confess that I actually enjoy Big Ed... NOT that I agree with him on a daily basis – rather, I enjoy an alternative viewpoint – and he expresses it well! I feel from that – I listen and learn!

What disturbs me is the AWFUL audio and “gymnastics” on WVKO. It is my understanding that this is a “new” and “fully-reconstructed” AM facility. How in the world could such sound so bad in 2008? I have heard better audio from some diligent ham radio operators, and better execution in Corbin, Kentucky. Last Saturday, I listened to the Clippers coverage – NO local liners or promos... The same was apparent on Sunday [with the added bonus of Chicago local creeping in] :D Granted, it’s the weekend; but this is unacceptable practice for a “real” radio station. Has anyone working at WVKO graduated a basic Radio 101 class? Tying a station that is little-more than a PC in a broom closet - maintained only to keep another away from its license IS NO VICTORY... Jason is correct – WVKO becomes viable when [AND IF] they reach a 2-share. That’s a pipe-dream if they continue on their current course :'(
 
Not sure why you say the northeast side of Columbus is "overwhelmingly-CONSERVATIVE/Republican."  That may apply in the pocket of NE Columbus east of 270, and certainly in suburbs like New Albany, Blacklick and much of Gahanna.  But most precincts in the northeast quadrant of the city of Columbus don't fit that profile at all, let alone "overwhelmingly."  They lean Democrat or balanced.
 
Sean Gilbow said:
The WVKO website is back up and running.

Bill Press will be here two weeks from today--doing his show live from the Plumbers and Pipefitters Local 189. And he will take part in a dinner and book signing the night before (Thursday, May 15). Details at wvko1580.com.
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From the WVKO Website http://www.wvko1580.com

"Bill Press Events Postponed"

The Bill Press events have been postponed due to technical and scheduling issues. The dinner, book signing and live broadcasts will be rescheduled for a June date to be announced soon. All tickets purchased for the dinner or live broadcast will be honored for the rescheduled events. Ticket holders can also request refunds by contacting the station.

WVKO thanks everyone for their support and regrets the inconvenience.
 
Glenn Beck is the reason WTDA is climbing. He owned midmornings on WTVN and the guy who just got canned was part of the reason 103.9 got him. If 'TDA were programmed a bit more thoughtfully, they'd do better. And, while technically accurate, I wouldn't call brokered shows on the weekend on WVKO "local shows" in the sense people are looking for local talk.
 
KJCB said:
Glenn Beck is the reason WTDA is climbing. He owned midmornings on WTVN and the guy who just got canned was part of the reason 103.9 got him. If 'TDA were programmed a bit more thoughtfully, they'd do better. And, while technically accurate, I wouldn't call brokered shows on the weekend on WVKO "local shows" in the sense people are looking for local talk.
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Let's see...local hosts, local topics, produced in-studio, sponsored by a variety of local advertisers...That would qualify in Columbus as local talk.
 
OK, so the next time Joe from Joe's Mortgage Shack does a half-hour show, complete with popping Ps, bad music, stuttering segues, etc., we'll call it a local show for purposes of producing quality programming. I'm glad you agree with my position on brokered programs not being so bad.
 
KJCB said:
OK, so the next time Joe from Joe's Mortgage Shack does a half-hour show, complete with popping Ps, bad music, stuttering segues, etc., we'll call it a local show for purposes of producing quality programming. I'm glad you agree with my position on brokered programs not being so bad.
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There is a difference between a locally produced live talk show with multiple advertisers, which is the case with the Saturday shows, and an infomercial like what you are describing. Based on your definition, the Columbus Clippers baseball games would be brokered programming since the team pays WVKO to air its games.
 
The Clippers are brokered time. Heck, WTAM has a huge mass of brokered time known as the Indians. I'm making a tie-in to my oft-made point on these boards, which is often refuted, that "broekred time" isn't just colon blow, like every poster references when it comes to pay-for-play.
 
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