Remember 5 months ago when 610 AM mentioned about judgement day on May 21st and it was proven false. I understand Camping needs to get bailed out again on the 21st but under the act of hypocracy that he is religious but we will see the same crowd waving the same posters from may all over the nation and abroad with this bait until the next judgement day on December 21, 2012. Maybe these Judgement day dates are really supposed to be like pledge drives that PBS does but scarier for Family Radio.
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Isn't Harold Camping's other prediction October 17 or 21?
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the end of the world part two.
Or maybe not.
Family Radio's shortwave outlet, WYFR, has already announced its winter transmission schedule, which begins........October 30.
BTW, there have been huge cuts in FR's shortwave output in recent months, so it is obvious that they are in financial distress.
Family Radio's shortwave outlet, WYFR, has already announced its winter transmission schedule, which begins........October 30.
BTW, there have been huge cuts in FR's shortwave output in recent months, so it is obvious that they are in financial distress.
Mediafrog+ said:
People have this belief that Hal Camping and company have been getting rich off Family Stations, when actually the opposite is true. Already a successful shopping center developer (Alameda's South Shore, Pelton Center in San Leandro, Town & Country Village, etc), he's actually pumped a lot of personal money into Family.
So, how could a Jesuscaster not make money? Well, they've always taken a low-key approach. You'd never hear a begathon on Family Stations. They never preached that people were going to hell if they didn't give. None of that. Well, that freedom from cajoling people comes at a price.
Now, Family Stations recently adjusted their board of directors, so I'd assume that Camping may have passed the torch to someone else, especially after his recent stroke. And if this is the case, maybe the organization is taking a different approach to their Bible predictions, etc. Maybe the world isn't going to end after all. At least not quite yet...
DavidKaye said:
I hope not. I'm getting really sick of having to drop everything and make preparations every few months. It's very inconvenient.
There's always the Rapture Help Desk. Family Radio pretty much walked away from the prediction business after May 21 and Camping's stroke.
DavidKaye said:
Well the issue for family radio is really the intent of these Judgement dates. Are they supposed to be interpreted the way Jim Jones used it in the 1970's like genocide in Jamestown. Or is it supposed to be like a pledge drive. Nobody here takes Campings word at face value it makes us more ignorant.
recto101 said:
Harold Camping has always been consistent. I've listened to KEAR from time to time since I was about 9 years old. He has said repeatedly that he is NOT a minister and that Family Radio is NOT a church nor does it have any intention of running a church. He has repeatedly said that all he's giving is his own interpretation and that people should decide for themselves what to accept or reject. So, Harold Camping is the anti-Jim Jones.
He also has never used his predictions as any kind of fundraising tool. As I've said here before, he doesn't even beg for money on the air, and has in fact had to bail out Family Radio from time to time with his own personal savings.
I think Camping had a giant ego. He wasn't into money. But he was incredibly convinced of his own ability to interpret the Bible and lead this organization in all matters, great and small.
Ever wonder about the music Family Radio plays? Why is it so incredibly old-fashioned? It sounds like the songs were all recorded in 1950's Mid-America. Well, that's where Camping comes from. He may not have been choosing every song but he wanted only the music that reflected his own Mid-America 1950's taste. Famly Radio has a sizable African-American following but Camping NEVER played any black gospel music on his network. He didn't like it.
Camping may not have tried to start a church of his own but he told all his followers that Satan controls EVERY church and they should not attend church, not even conservative Protestant churches. So that's almost the same thing. He wanted Family Radio and TV to be their church, with him dictating every philosophy heard on the channels. At one time Family Radio aired some programs produced outside the organization but that ended some years ago. He wanted total control of every hour of the day.
It's clear Family Radio is in total disarray since Camping's stroke. Apparently he left no contingency plans on what to do if he's out of the picture. I believe they've stopped airing recent Open Forum programs since they're all filled with his Rapture on May 21st and End of The World on Oct. 21st predictions. He claims Christ did return on May 21st but it wasn't with worldwide earhtquakes and graves opening as he predicted. Christ did it quietly.
Then he had his stroke some days later and now Family Radio is clearly not heavily promoting The End of The World this month. They're mostly airing fairly non-controversial shows now. I'd guess some people in the Family Radio hierarchy believe the world will end this month as Camping predicted and others now don't. So they really are adrift, at least till the 21st.
I'm not sure if NYC station 94.7 WFME is the only Family Radio station that encodes for People Meters. But it has excellent ratings for a religion station. In the last year it's been hovering between a 1.0 and a 1.5 when it only used to get around a .5 or so. So clearly some NY-area listeners are still under the belief that the world will be ending this month.
I'm not sure how Family Radio will hang onto any listeners after Oct. 21st comes and goes just as May 21st did.
Gregg
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Ever wonder about the music Family Radio plays? Why is it so incredibly old-fashioned? It sounds like the songs were all recorded in 1950's Mid-America. Well, that's where Camping comes from. He may not have been choosing every song but he wanted only the music that reflected his own Mid-America 1950's taste. Famly Radio has a sizable African-American following but Camping NEVER played any black gospel music on his network. He didn't like it.
Camping may not have tried to start a church of his own but he told all his followers that Satan controls EVERY church and they should not attend church, not even conservative Protestant churches. So that's almost the same thing. He wanted Family Radio and TV to be their church, with him dictating every philosophy heard on the channels. At one time Family Radio aired some programs produced outside the organization but that ended some years ago. He wanted total control of every hour of the day.
It's clear Family Radio is in total disarray since Camping's stroke. Apparently he left no contingency plans on what to do if he's out of the picture. I believe they've stopped airing recent Open Forum programs since they're all filled with his Rapture on May 21st and End of The World on Oct. 21st predictions. He claims Christ did return on May 21st but it wasn't with worldwide earhtquakes and graves opening as he predicted. Christ did it quietly.
Then he had his stroke some days later and now Family Radio is clearly not heavily promoting The End of The World this month. They're mostly airing fairly non-controversial shows now. I'd guess some people in the Family Radio hierarchy believe the world will end this month as Camping predicted and others now don't. So they really are adrift, at least till the 21st.
I'm not sure if NYC station 94.7 WFME is the only Family Radio station that encodes for People Meters. But it has excellent ratings for a religion station. In the last year it's been hovering between a 1.0 and a 1.5 when it only used to get around a .5 or so. So clearly some NY-area listeners are still under the belief that the world will be ending this month.
I'm not sure how Family Radio will hang onto any listeners after Oct. 21st comes and goes just as May 21st did.
Gregg
[email protected]
Does this Mean that CBS could buy the Camping stations in other cities? I know back in 2004-2005 CBS Sold KFRC "the Big 610" to Camping and he had to air Oakland A's games under the contract of the sale so CBS can get 106.9FM in San Francisco. Is Harold Camping airing sports on his other stations? I know CBS got 97.3FM from Camping in the 1970's and sold 98.9 to KMPX and camping went to 106.9 in the 1970's to 2004-2005.
Gregg said:
I noticed that too. All the music I swear you can buy for pennies per TON of vinyl at any second hand store warehouse outlet.
It's VERY weird.
The world has changed, Popular tastes have changed. But Family Radio is STILL stuck in a time warp. Almost in a grotesque way. I'm surprised anyone beyond Sissy Spacek's mom in Carrie listens to them......
Save for the mention of the website, it's like nothing ever since the '50s happened at Family Radio.....
Bongwater said:
Are the FM's still in mono?
Dave B.
They do have followers who are social media savvy. A few of those Twitter accunts are sill around from a couple of die-hard "yes the end is coming October 21" folks, but leading up to May 21 they were all over Twitter, Facebook, spamming comments sections whenever the topic came up...everywhere. Of course, YouTube videos, but as everyone said, on-air it's 1950.
I noticed that too. All the music I swear you can buy for pennies per TON of vinyl at any second hand store warehouse outlet.
It's VERY weird.
The world has changed, Popular tastes have changed. But Family Radio is STILL stuck in a time warp. Almost in a grotesque way. I'm surprised anyone beyond Sissy Spacek's mom in Carrie listens to them......
Save for the mention of the website, it's like nothing ever since the '50s happened at Family Radio.....
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They are actually MORE conservative in sound now then they were in the late 60's and 70's. Infact, they have gotten more "old" sounding since I left in 1994. I am not sure that it is Harold that is the one driving the overly "old" sound. Some of his minions are more conservative than he is about music.
bh
It's VERY weird.
The world has changed, Popular tastes have changed. But Family Radio is STILL stuck in a time warp. Almost in a grotesque way. I'm surprised anyone beyond Sissy Spacek's mom in Carrie listens to them......
Save for the mention of the website, it's like nothing ever since the '50s happened at Family Radio.....
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They are actually MORE conservative in sound now then they were in the late 60's and 70's. Infact, they have gotten more "old" sounding since I left in 1994. I am not sure that it is Harold that is the one driving the overly "old" sound. Some of his minions are more conservative than he is about music.
bh
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