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it looks like L.A. is joining S.F. and NYC IN TERMS OF NO COUNTRY

Re: Not really.

how many times can one listen to "Leroy, the Redneck Reindeer"
before proceeding to vomit?

listen to "LeRoy" amd Garth's "Good Ride Cowboy" back-to-back...
the man-who-will-not-retire cloned Leroy for a "hit"
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but wait...there's more!</P>
 
Re: Not really.

> The connection would be taking a hard look at the station's
> demos and ratings as well as KLOS's to determine how they
> would work with Power to maximize groupwide ad dollars.
> Like Clear Channel's wall of women here, and Emmis'
> dominance of minority listenership in NYC.
>

Emmis does not dominate minority listening, the dominate Black listening.

CCU's Wall of Women starts with KIIS, and ends with KOST, and they have 5 stations to do it with. LA is too diverse to create a wall of anything with 3 stations.

And Emmis is pretty much out of the game on the ABC proposal, it has been reported. One, there is no guarantee of a sale, and second, Lew Dckey's new company and a new entity are the front runners, not Emmis.
 
Re: Not really.

> >
> > You certainly wouldn't think so, given their no-show
> status
> > in the L.A. market ratings.
> >
>
> Exactly.... probably because their content is VERY LOCAL.
> They rarley admit their in So. Cal at all. Just IE stuff.
> What ever works right? Their 25-54 numbers are solid to the
> core.

You keep missing the point.

KFRG has no numbers -- "solid" or otherwise -- in the L.A. book. Obviously, despite your claims to the contrary, they have no signal in the rated market.

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Re: Not really.

> > The connection would be taking a hard look at the
> station's
> > demos and ratings as well as KLOS's to determine how they
> > would work with Power to maximize groupwide ad dollars.
> > Like Clear Channel's wall of women here, and Emmis'
> > dominance of minority listenership in NYC.
> >
>
> Emmis does not dominate minority listening, the dominate
> Black listening.
>
> CCU's Wall of Women starts with KIIS, and ends with KOST,
> and they have 5 stations to do it with. LA is too diverse to
> create a wall of anything with 3 stations.
>
> And Emmis is pretty much out of the game on the ABC
> proposal, it has been reported. One, there is no guarantee
> of a sale, and second, Lew Dckey's new company and a new
> entity are the front runners, not Emmis.
>

Actually Emmis doesnt only dominate "black" listening in NY.
Hot 97 is #1 in hispanic cume in NYC. Kiss is #1 African-American.
Both are top 5 ranked with caucasian listeners 18-34 as well.
LA is probably a less diverse market than NY...and "wall" is an expression...the stations compliment each other.

Where do you get this info?
Emmis is NOT out of game and certainly remains front runner. Entercom is a strong possibility too. Then Lew Dickey, et. al.
And personally, I don't think ABC will end up selling this time around.
But no point in arguing....just watch.
My point being is the "suitors" have already had their conversations of what they would do, and current formats are "on the table" in LA (with the exception of Power 106).
 
Re: Not really.

> > > The connection would be taking a hard look at the
> > station's
> > > demos and ratings as well as KLOS's to determine how
> they
> > > would work with Power to maximize groupwide ad dollars.
>
> > > Like Clear Channel's wall of women here, and Emmis'
> > > dominance of minority listenership in NYC.
> > >
> >
> > Emmis does not dominate minority listening, the dominate
> > Black listening.
> >
> > CCU's Wall of Women starts with KIIS, and ends with KOST,
> > and they have 5 stations to do it with. LA is too diverse
> to
> > create a wall of anything with 3 stations.
> >
> > And Emmis is pretty much out of the game on the ABC
> > proposal, it has been reported. One, there is no guarantee
>
> > of a sale, and second, Lew Dckey's new company and a new
> > entity are the front runners, not Emmis.
> >
>
> Actually Emmis doesnt only dominate "black" listening in NY.
>
> Hot 97 is #1 in hispanic cume in NYC. Kiss is #1
> African-American.
> Both are top 5 ranked with caucasian listeners 18-34 as
> well.
> LA is probably a less diverse market than NY...and "wall" is
> an expression...the stations compliment each other.
>
> Where do you get this info?
> Emmis is NOT out of game and certainly remains front runner.
> Entercom is a strong possibility too. Then Lew Dickey, et.
> al.
> And personally, I don't think ABC will end up selling this
> time around.
> But no point in arguing....just watch.
> My point being is the "suitors" have already had their
> conversations of what they would do, and current formats are
> "on the table" in LA (with the exception of Power 106).


KLOS and KZLA have essentially exclusive formats and there's no reason if Emmis assumes huge debt service, that they'd take a chance and blow up nearly $30 million in revenue on KZLA and what could be near $40 million on KLOS.
>
 
Re: Wrong data, totally.

>
> Actually Emmis doesnt only dominate "black" listening in NY.

No, that is all it dominantes.
>
> Hot 97 is #1 in hispanic cume in NYC. Kiss is #1
> African-American.


WQHT is below Latino Mix, WSKQ and WPAT-FM in Hispanic cume. In fact, WSKQ has double the Hispanic cume, and Latino Mix over 75% more than WQHT.

WQHT is 4th in Hispanic cume.

> Both are top 5 ranked with caucasian listeners 18-34 as
> well.

WQHT is 7th in non-ethinic share in 18-34. WRKS is tied for 19th in the same demo.

> LA is probably a less diverse market than NY...and "wall" is
> an expression...the stations compliment each other.

I know what "wall" is. The stations do not complement, they overlap... just like bricks in a wall. Thus the expression.

LA is 42% Hispanic, 12% Asian, 10% Black and there is an additonal 10% to 12% that are Persian, Russian, Arab, etc. first generation immigrants. The metro is 75% to 76% ethnic.

> Where do you get this info?

Arbitron, summer 2005 for LA and NY MSA, and US Census. I now ask the same of you, as your data is totally wrong in every case.

> Emmis is NOT out of game and certainly remains front runner.

Emmis has been pretty much dismissed by Inside Radio, RBR and other sources in the know. The front runner may be a dark horse, followed by the new Dickey group, followed, far back, by Entercom.

> Entercom is a strong possibility too. Then Lew Dickey, et.
> al.

> And personally, I don't think ABC will end up selling this
> time around.

There is at least a 50-50 chance of there being no deal. The deal is complicated, requiring a like kind exchange for shareholders.

> But no point in arguing....just watch.
> My point being is the "suitors" have already had their
> conversations of what they would do, and current formats are
> "on the table" in LA (with the exception of Power 106).

I think not. Unless you are Rick Cummings or Jimmy Steele in disguise, I really doubt it.
 
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