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It's almost that time again: Election Night 2012!!!!!

landtuna said:
Mario-500 said:
Other candidates besides Barack Obama and Willard Romney would have better chances of having significant vote totals on Election Day if more news agencies were to treat them fairly. Treating all of the candidates fairly would ensure folks that any citizen of the United States aged 35 years or more can become president of the United States.

Actually, that's a very scary thought since there are VERY few people who are qualified to be president - and we haven't elected one in a number of decades.  No reason to believe this year will be any different.

However, I must correct a small mistake......any citizen only includes those actually born here.  Thankfully, that means my wife and two girls can't qualify (and no, they don't read this board).

Technically there is no reason that anyone who qualifies cannot run right now.  Gen up the big bucks and get your face on the telly and whack away.  Whether the general public or the media giants will pay you any attention probably depend upon your acceptance to the voting public. 

^Thank you for the correction, even though the rules for presidential eligibility in the constitution of the United States may be interpreted differently:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

There is one more requirement from the constitution that needs to be mentioned: the citizen must have resided in the United States for 14 years or more.
 
R.D.P. said:
I see one of these things panning out on election day:

1. Romney will win by a landslide (Dick Morris' and my prediction)
2. Romney will win by a slight margin (Everyone else's prediction)
3. Obama will win by a slight margin (Everyone else's prediction)

Since this election is still too close to call, it's hard to tell which one will end up winning.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. Now for those who think Obama will win by a landslide, I just don't see it happening.

Can I object to the use of the term "landslide"? It seems to have a very vague definition.

To me, a landslide is like 1964 (Barry Goldwater won only 52 electoral votes) or 1972 (George McGovern won only 17 electoral votes). But some pundits have been talking like a landslide victory for Obama or Romney would mean only 320 electoral votes on their side. But, outside of the Cable News bubble, 320 electoral votes is just enough that one state can't swing the election.

My standard is more like 450.
 
Obama is the likely winner, but the only story here is if he can get over 300 electoral votes.

The other issue is when to call the race. If for some reason Ohio or Florida could be called, one could easily assume CA and IL , the two big states not in Eastern Time would fall Democratic. This could make it easier to call the election for Obama.

The most interesting outcome would be a tie of 269/269. Then you'd have the house deciding the President and the Senate the VP. Since the Democrats control the Senate and the Republicans the house (each state in this scenario would get one vote) you could actually wind up with Romney as President and Biden as Vice President.

A fun site is called 270toWin, you can make your own map of the Electoral College. And then post back here what you think the results would be and how soon they'll call the election.
 
R.D.P. said:
I see one of these things panning out on election day:

1. Romney will win by a landslide (Dick Morris' and my prediction)
2. Romney will win by a slight margin (Everyone else's prediction)
3. Obama will win by a slight margin (Everyone else's prediction)

Since this election is still too close to call, it's hard to tell which one will end up winning.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. Now for those who think Obama will win by a landslide, I just don't see it happening.

Who thinks that? Not a chance for a "landslide" for either guy. Either Obama will squeak out a win (1 or 2 points at best), or -less likely, but still possible - Romney will.

There is nothing in evidence but wishful thinking on either side to indicate a "landslide."
 
Mark said:
A fun site is called 270toWin, you can make your own map of the Electoral College. And then post back here what you think the results would be and how soon they'll call the election.

I predict the last five states to be called will be:
50) Florida
49) Ohio
48) Colorado
47) Virginia
46) New Hampshire

Counting in the last four states is likely to continue until at least midnight ET, so hopefully Wolf Blitzer's coffee is strong.
 
My gut tells me one of the networks will make an early call on a state that it later has to retract.
The "exit polls" have been way off the mark since 2000 and there's no reason to expect any different this year.
The networks can't seem to break their addiction to these polls though. They were burned badly in 2000 - face it, we all were.
In 2004, the exit polls seemed to indicate a Kerry win when that was not the case at all.

To me, the networks need to back off using these polls for any of their coverage and just report the results.
Don't call a state until you're sure one candidate has it wrapped up in such a way that it can't be won by the other guy. If that takes until
4am the next morning or 3 weeks later, so be it. The drama of all that is something I hope we avoid this year.. but it does make for good TV.
 
Watch Pennsylvania.

Whoever wins there will more than likely be elected President.

That's how I see it, as of this post.

R.D.P. <><

P.S. I'm still of the Dick Morris mindset. Romney will win by a landslide.
 
tested said:
My gut tells me one of the networks will make an early call on a state that it later has to retract.

If I had to bet, I'd say Florida. Morons in the news media will start calling the race (probably for Obama) at 7 pm EST, completely unaware that the (very conservative) panhandle west of Tallahassee is in the Central Time Zone, so the polls there won't close until 7 pm CST, or 8 pm EST. Although the percentage of the population there is very small compared to the rest of the state, it could be enough to change the outcome.
 
Well...here's what Canada will be watching on Tuesday night in case they want a break:

CTV: Arrow, Anger Management, Big Bang Theory, Criminal Minds (all reruns)
Global: Spider-Man 3
Citytv: Raising Hope (x2), New Girl, The Mindy Project, Murdoch Mysteries (all reruns)

I decided to leave CBC out of this, though they will have a special U.S. election edition of The National at its regular time. And like I said at the top, CTV, Global, and probably CityTV may break for updates throughout the night.

Australia? Since it would be Wednesday afternoon there before a winner is declared, CNN will be their only option (though there may be updates on Seven, Nine, Ten, and ABC)
 
Looking over a TV guide for Germany, as is commonplace the two nationwide public television networks there will be providing continuous overnight coverage of the election results again this time around, with ZDF beginning at 11:50 PM (5:50 PM Eastern) with Die Nacht der Entscheidung ("The Night of the Decision") and ARD/Das Erste starting a little bit later at 12:15 AM (6:15 PM Eastern) with US-Wahl 2012 - Die Wahlparty im Ersten ("US Vote 2012 - The Results Party on The First," which as a side note, refers to the commonly used name of the network, the first national television network in Germany; ZDF was the second national network and its official name Zweites Deutsches Fernsehen ["Second German Television"] is often shortened to just "The Second" on-air and in conversation].

If the "party" on Das Erste is like the program I was able to watch through live streaming in 2008, the coverage will indeed probably take the form of a decidedly festive, party-like atmosphere. In 2008, election coverage was broadcast from some sort of public square or meeting place, with a lot of American expats and interested Germans gathered around the news anchors as all the results came in. I distinctly remember the crowd cheering and going wild whenever a state was called for Obama, and booing, groaning, or remaining mostly silent when a state was called for McCain. Imagine the criticism an American network would get if any of them had similar coverage. :eek:

Anyway, starting at 1:00 AM (7:00 PM Eastern), RTL, the biggest private broadcast network in Germany, will get into the action and begin simulcasting sister n-tv, a 24 hour news network equivalent to CNN and in fact partially owned by CNN parent Time Warner.

The TV listings I linked to also show programming available in some neighboring countries. In the case of Austria, national public broadcast network ORF 2 will start coverage with Die Entscheidung ("The Decision") at 12:20 AM (6:20 PM Eastern). In Switzerland, live coverage in German will be provided on public broadcaster SF 1 beginning at 11:45 PM (5:45 PM Eastern) and run nonstop all the way to 9:00 AM (3:00 AM Eastern), according to this trailer, in German. National public broadcasters RTS Deux and RSI La 1 will also be providing nonstop election coverage to the French and Italian speakers of Switzerland, respectively.

Finally, in the Netherlands, election coverage will start at 11:00 PM (5:00 PM Eastern) on public television network Nederland 2 and will move over to Nederland 1 at 11:55 PM (5:55 PM Eastern) for the remainder of the night and early morning. Although there is a high likelihood a live stream will be provided online of this coverage, viewers in the United States with Ku FTA satellite systems will also be able to tune in via BVN, an international network programmed by the national broadcasters of the Netherlands and Dutch-speaking Belgium. This network is available free in the United States on the satellite SES 1 at 101°W, though, of course, one will have to know Dutch in order to fully understand what's being said.
 
Isn't it remarkable how many broadcasters around the world take a keen interest in our elections.. yet our broadcasters give scant coverage to elections in key allies like Canada and Great Britain - and certainly don't do live coverage. Pitiful.
 
tested said:
yet our broadcasters give scant coverage to elections in key allies like Canada and Great Britain - and certainly don't do live coverage. Pitiful.
Um, C-SPAN usually takes care of that here in the States, airing the CBC's and BBC's general election coverages (sometimes joining them in progress).
 
tested said:
Isn't it remarkable how many broadcasters around the world take a keen interest in our elections.. yet our broadcasters give scant coverage to elections in key allies like Canada and Great Britain - and certainly don't do live coverage. Pitiful.

WHAT?!?!?!? We have allies? Why wasn't I told?!?!?!?!?!!?
 
tested said:
Isn't it remarkable how many broadcasters around the world take a keen interest in our elections.. yet our broadcasters give scant coverage to elections in key allies like Canada and Great Britain - and certainly don't do live coverage. Pitiful.

Well people can just look around the web for foreign elections. The Only Time US Broadcasters do pay attention to foreign elections is when we go to war against another country. Case in point the Iraqi Election around 2004-2005 during the height of the Iraq war.
 
Just found out that in Australia, there will be election coverage on 7 Too (one of the Seven Network's digital channels), Nine, ABC News 24 (the public broadcaster's news channel), and SBS.

Nine's will run till 3:00 pm Wednesday (Sydney Time), which translates to 11:00 pm Eastern here in the States; they may go a bit longer depending on the outcome.
 
--------------------------SPOILER ALERT AHEAD!!-----------------------------------












Barack Obama, the 44th president of the United States, has won the election, 274-203 over Romney. Several networks including MSNBC and CBS have projected Obama for a second term, through 2016.

Romney started off several points over Obama, but that was due to all of the Midwest states. Then Obama took CA, NY, and many other big-times states. People are celebrating all over the country now!

-crainbebo
 
Update Fox news has another Conspiracy on President Obama since Obama has the electoral vote and Romney had the popular vote.
 
recto101 said:
The Question is what will MSNBC and Fox News have in the playbook after the election is over if either Candidate wins.

I'd rather have known what they'd have in their playbook if *neither* candidate won.........
 
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