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Jay Leno Leaving The Tonight Show Next Season???

May, 2013: NBC announces Jay Leno steps down from "Tonight" min 2014.

May, 2014: Jay Leno's last show.

After Memorial Day 2014: Jimmy Fallon becomes new host of "Tonight Show".

Summer 2014: Jimmy Fallon, after initial high ratings, struggles a bit.

September, 2014: Jay Leno is back in prime-time with a five-nights-a-week show on NBC, but his show becomes a huge flop.

January, 2015: NBC cans Jimmy Fallon, brings back Jay Leno for his third stint as "Tonight" host.

(The preceding is completely satirical, and in no way expresses my view on what might occur.

All kidding aside, I do think Jimmy Fallon will eventually get "The Tonight Show", but it may not be next year (2014). I think a more likely departure date for Leno will be the beginning of August, 2016 (right before the Summer Olympics in Rio),m with Fallon's first show the Monday after the Olympics end.

With a one-hour time difference during the Summer between Rio and New York, most of NBC's coverage of the 2016 Summer Olympics will be live, and will attract very large audiences, which will be a big platform to promote the Fallon "Tonight Show".

One hope: If Fallon gets "Tonight", hopefully, he will continue to originate from New York. I think a New York origination is a plus for his current 12:30 A.M. (ET/PT) show.
 
In another brillant idea from NBC may go like this..... Jimmy Fallon is the new host of The Tonight Show with Jay Leno's nightly monolouge! Another way of attempting to keep both of them.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
I feel that the idea of Jay Leno having a prime-time show on NBC in the Fall of 2009 was actually a good one.

Where NBC erred was that they gave Jay the wrong kind of show.

NBC should have given Leno a one-hour, once-a-week, big-budget comedy/variety show in the traditional comedy/variety format.
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I completely agree with this. Also, such a show would be great for Saturday nights. Start with one hour, and if it does really well, add another hour or half-hour to it.
 
mescutia said:
Joseph_Gallant said:
I feel that the idea of Jay Leno having a prime-time show on NBC in the Fall of 2009 was actually a good one.

Where NBC erred was that they gave Jay the wrong kind of show.

NBC should have given Leno a one-hour, once-a-week, big-budget comedy/variety show in the traditional comedy/variety format.
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I completely agree with this. Also, such a show would be great for Saturday nights. Start with one hour, and if it does really well, add another hour or half-hour to it.
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Not a bad idea. I was thinking of Sunday nights, but there would be 16-18 weeks out of the year when that couldn't happen because of football.

It seems that a lot of people have forgotten that another Tonight Show host found success at 10:00 after he left the desk. That was Jack Paar who did a verison of his Tonight Show on Friday nights at 10 from 1962 to the summer of 1965. I seem to recall it was very popular, and very timely. RFK gave his first interview to Paar on this show after the JFK assassination in March of 1964. NBC didn't cancel the show. Jack pulled the plug himself, because in his way, he knew in his heart, that it was time to go. One reason that this show was successful was that it played to Paar's strength: interviews.

A comedy/variety show would play to Leno's strengths, telling jokes and introducing guests.
 
M.J. said:
Was Leno supposed to be a repeat tonight, or was this a sudden change? I didn't think they did repeats in March...
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Letterman is also on reruns since Feb sweeps ended, they always go on reruns right before or after sweeps periods
 
Justin Timberlake. He can sing, he does sketch comedy well and he lots of Hollywood connections to get guests.
 
F.M.Hertz commented: said:
It seems that a lot of people have forgotten that another Tonight Show host found success at 10:00 after he left the desk. That was Jack Paar who did a version of his Tonight Show on Friday nights at 10 from 1962 to the summer of 1965.......NBC didn't cancel the show. Jack pulled the plug himself....
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While the 1962-65 Paar prime-time show had interviews, there were far fewer of them than on "The Tonight Show", and more performing guests.

It's my understanding the 1962-65 Paar prime-time show came about because his contract with NBC still had three years left when he departed from "Tonight". The show ended when his deal ended.
 
Joseph_Gallant said:
F.M.Hertz commented: said:
It seems that a lot of people have forgotten that another Tonight Show host found success at 10:00 after he left the desk. That was Jack Paar who did a version of his Tonight Show on Friday nights at 10 from 1962 to the summer of 1965.......NBC didn't cancel the show. Jack pulled the plug himself....
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While the 1962-65 Paar prime-time show had interviews, there were far fewer of them than on "The Tonight Show", and more performing guests.

It's my understanding the 1962-65 Paar prime-time show came about because his contract with NBC still had three years left when he departed from "Tonight". The show ended when his deal ended.
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Paar always made a big deal about the fact that he had a story on the Beatles a full month before they appeared on Ed Sullivan. Of course, it was only concert footage, as opposed the the Fab Four actually appearing on the Sullivan show. Even then, CBS had beaten Paar by about three weeks, with a story on the CBS Evening News. THAT story was originally scheduled to be shown on the Evening News on the night of 11/22/63.
 
I don't watch any of the late night shows,unless it is someone who rarely does interviews. If all of this is true I hope they give whoever takes over time to build a show,Not like what they did with Conan. Leno had something like 2 years before his ratings took off,I hope they don't allow Jay to have a nightly show that again would not be fair. One thing I will say about Jay he works 5 days a week. I will never understand why a network allows four day work weeks, I mean you are making millions every year and can't come in 5 days a week? Did Johnny Carson start that and others copied?
 
Later said:
I don't watch any of the late night shows,unless it is someone who rarely does interviews. If all of this is true I hope they give whoever takes over time to build a show,Not like what they did with Conan. Leno had something like 2 years before his ratings took off,I hope they don't allow Jay to have a nightly show that again would not be fair. One thing I will say about Jay he works 5 days a week. I will never understand why a network allows four day work weeks, I mean you are making millions every year and can't come in 5 days a week? Did Johnny Carson start that and others copied?
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Yes, it was Johnny. After he hit a certain pay level, Carson began negotiating for free time rather than money. First it was the four-day week, then cutting the show from 90 minutes to an hour.

On top of the four-day work weeks, Johnny also had at least six weeks of vacation.
 
The times of Johnny and HIYOOOOO are long far past. The Tonight Show as many here remember it (myself included) will never again see a return as such. It's neither in the terms of for the good or for bad, it is in the terms of what is. Television's landscape has vastly changed since Bette Midler sang "One for My Baby (And One More for the Road)". Christ, that was 21 years ago. If anything, late night is stuck in a sort of time warped stigma that Johnny's Tonight Show is the bonafide yard stick that all late night shows must always adhere by. To this day, there isn't any show that has a guest sitting TO THE AUDIENCE RIGHT of the host. It's like it's etched in stone. What would happen if guest sat to the right? Armageddon? Hell if I know since it's some sort of late night taboo to try and test the theory.

What the current crop of late night heirs lack is that of versatility. In the early days of television you had to wear many hats and have the ability to act quick on your feet. Live television demanded such traits which is why vaudeville acts like Jack Benny, Milton Bearle, George Allen, Red Skelton and Bob Hope were such naturals with the transition.

The "stars" groomed today don't come from the same pedigree. The "art" of comedy is dissected and studied and conceptualized as coursework. There is still natural comedic talent out there but more often than not it's never seen nor heard from because of the farmed talent that can be "molded" to tick all of the boxes. And that mold is Johnny Carson as far as late night television is concerned.

From where I sit, which means not a rip to anyone because I am not in the Neilson Family: Conan's best work was in his later years with Late Night (and I watched his first official week at NBC and said "He won't last 4 weeks"), Letterman's best days are far far behind him, Leno has been an actor's publicist wet dream since forever due to the fact he doesn't really interview anyone but rather leads the guest into a pre-produced framework so the actor/musician can prattle on and on about their latest outstanding endevour. The oddest thing to me about Leno is he was my all time must watch guest on Letterman. Whenever I knew he was showing up on Letterman, it was appointment watch tv for me and the man killed everytime. Leno is a really really good comedian but he's been phoning it in for so long on The Tonight Show that I just don't give a toss to watch anymore. Kimmel and Fallon are the wild cards. Kimmel has a West coast beat that to his discredit doesn't probably play well in Peoria and I understand that. However, I grew up with Kimmel and Adam Carolla on the radio side doing mornings as bit players on KROQ. And while I was never a fan of Jimmy Fallon on SNL I cannot discount his appeal to his younger audience. I don't understand his appeal but I can see that it exists. Much like Conan's fist few weeks, I discounted Fallon getting beyond 4 weeks as well.

As such, I watch Craig Ferguson knowing he has zero desire to be the heir to any apparent.
 
Is there a chance jay could end up at cnn to replace the flailing Piers Morgan? after all is former boss now works over there.
 
BD Sullivan said:
Paar always made a big deal about the fact that he had a story on the Beatles a full month before they appeared on Ed Sullivan. Of course, it was only concert footage, as opposed the the Fab Four actually appearing on the Sullivan show. Even then, CBS had beaten Paar by about three weeks, with a story on the CBS Evening News. THAT story was originally scheduled to be shown on the Evening News on the night of 11/22/63.
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The actual airdate for that evening news story on the Beatles was December 10th. It is my understanding that it had also aired on CBS on their morning program on November 22nd, and was scheduled to air again that evening, as you said, but was of course pre-empted by coverage of the JFK assassination. When it finally aired in the evening on December 10th, a 15-year-old girl in the DC area called WWDC and asked what could they do to "get that music here." The dj there tracked down a British 45 of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (still yet to be released in the U.S.!) from a flight attendant, then made copies for his dj friends in Chicago and St. Louis, effectively breaking the Beatles in all three cities. I am guessing that the buzz over the Beatles had really begun to build by the time Paar played them on his show.
 
tvradiogeek said:
Is there a chance jay could end up at cnn to replace the flailing Piers Morgan? after all is former boss now works over there.
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You're obviously joking. Please, tell me you are.
 
F.M.Hertz said:
tvradiogeek said:
Is there a chance jay could end up at cnn to replace the flailing Piers Morgan? after all is former boss now works over there.
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You're obviously joking. Please, tell me you are.
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I've never heard that Jeff Zucker likes Jay or that Jay likes Jeff Zucker. I have, however, heard that Jeff Zucker likes Piers Morgan.

I know...I was stunned too. I figured he'd be on top of Zucker's hit list.
 
At least Piers gets a silly grin on his face when he goes to the range and fires full auto machines guns!

Not many Brits get the chance to even fire a gun, much less shoot the cool shit we are entitled to own here in the USA.
 
michael hagerty said:
Later said:
I don't watch any of the late night shows,unless it is someone who rarely does interviews. If all of this is true I hope they give whoever takes over time to build a show,Not like what they did with Conan. Leno had something like 2 years before his ratings took off,I hope they don't allow Jay to have a nightly show that again would not be fair. One thing I will say about Jay he works 5 days a week. I will never understand why a network allows four day work weeks, I mean you are making millions every year and can't come in 5 days a week? Did Johnny Carson start that and others copied?
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Yes, it was Johnny. After he hit a certain pay level, Carson began negotiating for free time rather than money. First it was the four-day week, then cutting the show from 90 minutes to an hour.

On top of the four-day work weeks, Johnny also had at least six weeks of vacation.
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It was July 1971 when Johnny stopped hosting on Mondays.
 
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