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Jerry Fisher, Local Legend?

B

Becker

While browsing through my most recent issue of State College, The Magazine, I came across an advertisement for WBLF's new lineup.

Get ready local talk radio fans because "Local legend Jerry Fisher...now hosting Centre County This Morning."

Not only do the words "local legend" and "Jerry Fisher" not fit into the same sentence together, I find it laughable that WBLF would be so desperate to even try to promote it as such. Mr. Fisher has been a complete loser and failure at every attempt to host a radio show in the past. I don't see this being any kind of success.

The only place Jerry Fisher belongs on radio is calling the Lady Lion Basketball games.

WBLF should find some actual talent for its morning drive unless the idea is to let Dennis Miller and Rush bring in the real listeners and ratings.
 
Have you listened to any of the shows you're panning or are you just showing us how smart you think you are?
 
gargoyles said:
Have you listened to any of the shows you're panning or are you just showing us how smart you think you are?
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The answer to your first question is "yes." To your second question, the answer is " that's a dumb question that has nothing to do with the original post."
 
You know I think it is funny the people that come in here and then hide behind a screen name and than talk smack about everything they possibly can. What makes you the go to know it all? Gargoyles was man enough to step up and admit who he is, so his points are valid since he actually has a clue about what he is talking about.

Everybody likes to bust on Steve, well I will be the first to admit that I think Steve has some Verrrrrrrrrrrry crazy ideas from time to time, and his posts can go on for days, but at least he has the balls to admit who he is, and because of that I respect his posts...doesn't mean I have to agree with them.

I just have a hard time listening or in this case reading criticism about somebody from someone who obviously isn't man enough to admit who he is in case that same he turns out to be wrong!

Ace and TJ case in point: Everybody busted on me and the station for picking up the show and being the first north of the Mason Dixon line to do so...Well I don't hear much smack now after the numbers showed for themselves...see the know it alls really don't know it all!
 
Zippity Doo, your numbers were up and your name is AJ. *insert shameless plug here*
So what your really saying here is that you won't give any respectful thought to someones post unless you know their "true" name then? That's just asinine.
 
Didn't say that....I am pointing out there are several people who come in and spout a bunch of crap about a station, a person, or a company...case in point Jerry Fisher...they talk the talk but never give a valid explanation as to what makes them an authority on the subject...There are people who like to talk a lot of smack and then when the tables turn and don't head the direction they thought it would they tuck their tail between their legs and run...only to show up on another thread spouting more BS. If you have no valid way of backing up why you think the way you think than don't be flinging crap around. You don't have to give your name, just a reason as to why you think/know it is ok for you to call Jerry Fisher a quack, ect ect....I think it is a very reasonable request, not asinine.

P.S. I don't need the shameless plug, I am not egotistical just pointing out a fact that people talked a whole lot of crap and then we end up finishing in the top 3 with women 18-34...then nothing else was said, cause they were proven wrong...maybe they know nothing about radio and when it comes time for the moment of truth and they lose they aren't man enough to speak up and say I made a mistake....maybe a compliment every now and then on this board would be nice...

Ted tried one with Joe and THON and all the sudden it once again became a debate with 85% of the people who know NOTHING...that my friend is asinine
 
I think its a shame that the board as a whole has really died off and I think it stems from 2 things.

1. Media consolidiation has squelched people's ability to voice opinions for fear of upsetting the apple cart at work.

2. There ARE a lot of egos on this board...some who may have a basis for their opinions and some who just spout off to be heard and sadly when attacked and insulted for the umteenmillionth time.....a legitimate poster may ultimately decide to just sit back and observe or totally fade away, as why toss your 2 cents in only to be attacked?

Having read AJ's comments, I can surely see where he is coming from. Its easy to say "Jerry Fisher is a no-one", but unless we have a clue of the basis of your opinion...how can your position be judged for its worth? Not saying you have to say WHO you are...but how bout at least giving some clues as to your background or level of expertise? You could be the station janitor for all we know with absolutely no clue about how to work a board if your life depended on it...or you could be a station owner....if we don't know that...how do we know if we should take your words for what they are worth? It would be nice for a change to see all the senseless bashing come to a halt and for us to talk like PEOPLE to each other...but I don't think that's gonna happen here. Too many "radio egos" in the way.

Back to the post itself....No, I would not necessarily call Jerry Fisher A "ledgend"...in fact, I don't think there are really too many of those in these parts. Some good talents...perhaps. But is there really anyone that people will be talking about years after we have stepped away from the mic? Probably not. And not to be overly rude...but Jerry Fisher is who he is because of Fran Fisher who I'd call a possible legend way before I'd give that title to Jerry or anyone else in the market. Don Imus may be an idiot...be he shall go down as a Radio legend..as people will talk about what he did long after today even if he never cracks the mic again. I hate Howard Stern...but he too is a radio legend in many circles.

Local legends? Maybe...Kevin Nelson.....or Jeff Brown? These are 2 guys who cannot go anyplace without being recognized. I dont think I'd know Jerry fisher if he were standing in front of me...and I know that no one would know me....or AJ...or too many others who sit behind the mic.
 
What defines a legend then? Is it someone who has just been in this market forever or is it someone who has been in this market and has made a difference/change the way things have been done. Steve Jones would be a legend I would believe due to his work with Penn State and the fact that he works at one of the most highly rated Stations in this market.
Kevin I have only ever heard about on this board
Jeff Brown and Steve Biddle will rank up there I think someday as well.
Heck, AJ and Jerry Valerie should be considered legends as well due to the longetivity on the air on the same station in the area.
 
Bannerville said:
What defines a legend then? Is it someone who has just been in this market forever or is it someone who has been in this market and has made a difference/change the way things have been done. Steve Jones would be a legend I would believe due to his work with Penn State and the fact that he works at one of the most highly rated Stations in this market.
Kevin I have only ever heard about on this board
Jeff Brown and Steve Biddle will rank up there I think someday as well.
Heck, AJ and Jerry Valerie should be considered legends as well due to the longetivity on the air on the same station in the area.
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While some may question his talents, you may score points with Steve Jones, as yes...he is THE voice of Penn State and I'd say its safe to say that many people know him when they see him and/or they recognize his name and his voice off the bat. But I don't think longevity alone is much of a barometer in making one a "legend". Yes, AJ has been at the same station for a long time and I think he is a very talented individual...but were he to leave the market today never to return, how soon would we forget him? Has he done anything to make a lasting impact that would have people saying "that guy was really good". Don't get me wrong, I am not AJ bashing...I actually like the guy a lot. Take me for an example as well...I was on the air in this market for a very long time and consistently had ratings that many wished they had...but I am by no means a legend either. I walked away from the mic for years and no one said that State College radio would "never be the same". I walk up and down the street and no one says "hey...you are that guy". Nope...I am just your average Joe who happens to blast his voice into a microphone on occasion. People listen...maybe sometimes if I am lucky...they laugh or cry or crack a smile or whatever....but for the most part, they forget and move on.

Elvis is a legend...the Beatles are legends. Brittany sells a lot of cd's, but 15 years from now will anyone be talking about her? I doubt it. Takes a lot to make a legend and except for in our own minds...I just don't think there are a lot of "local legends" on the dial here in Happy Valley. Sorry if you disagree.
 
No disagreement here, only trying to figure out what the standards are that we are considering in making one a legend. Steve Jones was my only real selection there. I was stating for the others that be it set to a different standard, they too might be considered legends in there own respective ways.
As you speak about "local legends", Elvis, The Beatles and Brittany have nothing here...Davey Jones, maybe since he is techinally living in Central PA, but I digress.
 
I don't look at Steve Jones as a legend compared to a Keith Jackson, Al Michaels or Brent Musberger. Sure, he's been in this market his whole life (WMAJ then the Z) so that makes him 'known' by everyone. Many more talented sports announcers in this market moved on years ago. If they were in this market today they would probably be the voice of Penn State sports. After Fran Fisher 'retired' again after coming out of retirement, Penn State cut the pay for that position. In fact, you couldn't make a living in this town on what the pay was, so you get someone that is already in this market that has a job in sports, hmmm most other stations don't have a fulltime sports person, oh, let's go with Steve Jones. What has he done different compared to the past three announcers before Fran Fisher to become a legend? Can anyone even name the past three p-b-p announcers for football prior to Fran?
As for being at a top station in the market, yes he is, but there were and are a lot of talented people there that have helped make the Z what it is, not just Jones.
As for the Jerry Fisher remark, all I'll say is, if you've worked with the man, or know someone that has worked with him then he's no legend. Just riding on dad's coattails.
 
I think it's amazing how ppl twist words on this board to make their point.

you said >>As for being at a top station in the market, yes he is, but there were and are a lot of talented people there that have helped make the Z what it is, not just Jones.<<
-Never said he made 3WZ what it is, just pointed out he works in one of the top rated stations for State College
I quote, "and the fact that he works at one of the most highly rated Stations in this market." ###

you said >>>I don't look at Steve Jones as a legend compared to a Keith Jackson, Al Michaels or Brent Musberger.
I'm asking about "LOCAL LEGENDS", hence the title of this thread: JERRY FISHER, LOCAL LEGEND? And this is not just about sports broadcasters, this is about all broadcasters in the State College Market.
As a broadcaster, I would think you would understand the K.I.S.S rules
I can't even name the past three p-b-p's because frankly the only voice I ever heard for Penn State was Steve Jones.
Fran I only know of because of all the commercials he does/did with Joe Paterno.

BTW...Kieth Jackson does an awesome job at calling the shots for the Annual Amish Rake Fighting Championships! First blow usually wins.
 
Charlie Hoo Hoo is a radio legend in Central PA. So was Big Gene and Radio Pete was on his way to being there.

It's Central PA for the Love of God. If they were to become "Legends" they would have got out and gone somewhere where they can make a little money.

True Central PA Legends are the following... Sean McKay WFBG Altoona, Kevin Nelson, The Late Tom Riley and Fran Fisher. Other than that, everyone is someone who is there because they are starting out or they are afraid to go somewhere else.
 
Holy crap I never been called a "legend", been called God a few times, well at least that is what she kept yelling...I'm far from a legend. I have to agree with Bannerville, there is good talent and then there are legends...Jerry Fisher a legend? Maybe not, Howard Stern, Shadow Stevens, Rick Dees, Rush, Wolfman Jack, hell even Mike Harvey could all be considered legends but in Central PA who would be a legend? There are only 2 names that come to mind, Tom And Karen, I remember them from when I was a kid never really knew what happened to them, but I remember a lot of people were upset, maybe they were, maybe they weren't. As for Steve Jones being a legend, no bust on Steve but does longevity equal legend?

I think if anyone would be called a legend based on longevity my list would be:

Kevin Nelson
Pat Urban
Steve Jones
ok I drew a blank

and then there is Harlow, legend in his own mind...sorry buddy...I'm not afraid to go anywhere else I worked for Clear Channel and Artistic Media Partners (Indiana the state, recommend not going very very very flat) all my family is in Central PA and I like it here! Not afraid to leave just don't want to!!!!
 
ameyer said:
Holy crap I never been called a "legend", been called God a few times, well at least that is what she kept yelling...I'm far from a legend. I have to agree with Bannerville, there is good talent and then there are legends...Jerry Fisher a legend? Maybe not, Howard Stern, Shadow Stevens, Rick Dees, Rush, Wolfman Jack, hell even Mike Harvey could all be considered legends but in Central PA who would be a legend? There are only 2 names that come to mind, Tom And Karen, I remember them from when I was a kid never really knew what happened to them, but I remember a lot of people were upset, maybe they were, maybe they weren't. As for Steve Jones being a legend, no bust on Steve but does longevity equal legend?

I think if anyone would be called a legend based on longevity my list would be:

Kevin Nelson
Pat Urban
Steve Jones
ok I drew a blank

and then there is Harlow, legend in his own mind...sorry buddy...I'm not afraid to go anywhere else I worked for Clear Channel and Artistic Media Partners (Indiana the state, recommend not going very very very flat) all my family is in Central PA and I like it here! Not afraid to leave just don't want to!!!!
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Yes Harlow...I am afraid I have to back up AJ on this one as well. When I was "removed" from the air at the old B103, I received quite a few calls with job offers from people I knew in the biz (including one from you if memory serves), but I stayed in Central PA because my family is here and I like it here. Fear was not an issue. It was more of what was right for my life at the time. Some have left the market only to return for whatever reason. There are plenty of people in this market who are worlds better than what many of the so called "major markets" serve up today..but they happen to be here for whatever reason. Some will stay...some will go...some of us will just fade away someday but I don't think its fair to say that someone is scared to leave State College or just plain not good enough to leave. Unless you have walked in their shoes, you don't know why they are here so I think its unfair to judge people's reasons for hanging around. Steve Kelsey has been a fixture at WFBG, and later Froggy for as long as I can recall. Roger Corey and Dick Deandrea have been round the block for some time too at WALY. I wonder if its fear that keeps them in Altoona, or the fact that each gets a pretty nice hefty paycheck for doing what they do everyday.

Heck, I make peanuts and I still stayed here out of love for this area. I wonder what my opinion would be if I got paid anything near what those guys make?
 
John Harlow said:
Charlie Hoo Hoo is a radio legend in Central PA.
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I never heard of this Hoo Hoo guy before this forum. And I really don't care to know him, I just get tired of all the stupid posts that are untrue and meaningless. I like to keep with the facts and not made up stories about some random dude. For that reason, I have not been stopping by as much.

There are many people in Altoona who sound better than many of the people on the air here in market 16. Just because you are in Altoona doesn't mean you don't deserve to be elsewhere. In order to go to a bigger market, you have to want to leave Altoona and be motivated to look into other opportunities. Many are happy without that and I admire them for being content.
 
Actually, the word legendary, better describes Jeff. Now there is a legend.
 
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