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Joe how did you miss this!

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On the corporate level, former WBCN program director Oedipus who has been CBS Radio's VP of Alternative Rock programming was also pink-slipped. Legendary PD was based in Boston while overseeing CBS' alternative rock format stations.
 
Neggy - I was clear on two things:

---Oedipus would be fired

---(Certain afternoon drive person) would be fired.

Two for two. The Red Sox should be this accurate.

Working on a bunch of songs for him...here's the first one

Oedipus Taught Us Well

(C)7/14/2006 Var Music Publishing, BMI


We heard you got fired
You'll say you retired
you were always style over substance, that's for sure

You're still pretty wired
we love that you got fired
No real contributions just a rock & roll (word deleted before moderator gets to it)

Oedipus Oedipus, you taught us well
Oedipus, Oedipus, how are things in (word deleted before moderator)

Are you gonna stay down there?
Tell us, how's Ken Lay down there?

(rough draft, still working on it)

Jack Be Nimble, Jack Be Quick
Don't forget your lap dog (name deleted before moderator can get to it...)

p.s. LucyLu - blame? We can always start with you! :)


We're going to have a huge celebration!
 
Neggy - I was clear on two things:

---Oedipus would be fired

---(Certain afternoon drive person) would be fired.







Yes, yes it was quite sad to see Parenteau go. ::)
 
It was sadder to see Parenteau go where he did... down the drain ,career and personally
 
Hey that guy did it to himself, period. No one who actually knows Mark was at all surprised by that turn of events, no one, except maybe Joe but then again he doesnt really know the guy, he knows that he has a comrade in arms in hatred of a certain group of radio people. He didnt have day to day dealings with the man, if you did you knew he was just morally bankrupt, and arrogant enough to think that he could talk his way out of ANYTHING.
 
Actually, Nik, Mark & I knew each other quite well in the "alternative bars" of Boston and in radio. I worked for his ex-wife. Mark was a radio professional whose indiscretions got the better of him.

You act like you know it all - I liked Mark Parenteau as a disc jockey and as a person outside of his private life. He's got his personal demons, Nik, but so do you - so does every man (and woman). As Jesus said,
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

But Mark & I put up the front to WBCN that we "hated" each other. I would've loved to have seen the look on his face when he opened the package I sent him with the book "Oedipus Burning".

You see, Nik, you are the only one who is shedding a tear for Oedipus because he hired you to fulfill an agenda. No offense, Nik, but, please, when a major disc jockey doesn't know who wrote friggin "SATISFACTION" - we're not talking about stuff you SHOULD KNOW because it is the subject matter - like Wilbert Harrison, or other important artists, we're talking about COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

But it is funny for YOU to tell ME my business as a journalist when you aren't even in first grade.

To quote you" "Wrong again, Nik".

Jagger & Richards did write "Satisfaction" (or maybe his name was Keith Richard at the time, he did change his name) and Mark Parenteau didn't "hate" me. Maybe he does now after my poem about his problems, but...
 
No Joe he always hated you, always, always, always,...Oedipus never told me much of anything about you, all of your failures and foibles that I know about came from the mouth of Parenteau, he hated you..... until he became a convicted sex felon and had NO FRIENDS anywhere. You are friend of the friendless, so please let's not re write history. DOnt you know what a two faced man he is? he has no friends Joe, you want to align yourself with a man like that, that speaks volumes about YOU. You keep saying you worked with his wife Gail Parenteau,......why? that and a dollar will get you half a ride on the T,........MEANINGLESS, MEANINGLESS.

If you want to harp on the one error I made (which I reaily admitted) about who wrote "satisfaction" feel free, I made an error but honestly Im not a classic rock jock and never have had to play that stuff so my knowledge of it is neither here nor there plus I mis spoke it was a simple mistake, not a huge indicator of any lack of credibility as you want to think. I also quizzed you about a good many bands RELEVANT WITHIN THE PAST QUARTER CENTURY and you were lost, so I think that makes us more than even.

You're also wrong JOe I dont shhed a tear for oedipus I dont have to, Im not worried about him at all. Y I wasnt the one who brought him up on this board, you on the other hand are attempting to gloat as if you had anything to do with his departure, but that is typical delusional Joe propaganda. Again you're the one who constantly, CONSTANTLY quotes oedipus saying that you were "the hardest working man in Boston rock" blah blah blahbedy blah. Even if he had made that stattement you've spent the past how many yeyars tryingt o smear him but then when it is convenient for you you trot out the one thing that he said prasing you? what is that?....joe it's simple: You cant talk about how awful he is and then try to use him as a positive refernce, you cant have it both ways, so pick a direction and go. Try to concentrate one ONE of the voices in your head and stick with that one.
 
Nik, you have zero credibility. The Rolling Stones wrote "Sympathy For The Devil", not your ex-boss.

If anyone needs to see why Oedipus was fired, the previous post by Nik Carter is "Exhibit A".

He's not even aware that Gail Parenteau was in the promotion business in America with 5 cities - bands coming in from overseas needed to be booked by Gail before it was economically smart for Don Law & Ron Delsner to bring them over as well. Gail and Mark were a power couple.

But Nik - you have 5 million excuses for your spelling errors (it's the typewriter), you're failure to know facts
(it's irrelevant...uh, it's an honest mistake), and it's pretty obvious to the board that you're fiction reads like the poor man's Karl Rove.

Indeed your "ex boss" does have many words of praise for me; he knows my work ethic. You were merely another pawn he used. Don't feel so bad, a LOT of people let him use them.

You can't stand it that I stood up to him and still do today. It's called integrity Nik. He couldn't buy me off nor would I pay him for airplay. End of story, plain and simple. And you're still helping him out on this board today. Amazing. Go get a real job, Nik. Weekend shift in NY is not "bouncing back".
 
You can't stand it that I stood up to him and still do today. It's called integrity Nik. He couldn't buy me off nor would I pay him for airplay. End of story, plain and simple. And you're still helping him out on this board today. Amazing. Go get a real job, Nik. Weekend shift in NY is not "bouncing back".

I cant stand what?...Joe I could not care less what you do, I just feel the need to correct you when you make sweeping and factually wrong statements which you do constantly. How did you stand up to him? you've been on tthis board for years whining about him, wahhh wahhh wahhh how many times have you said "Oedipus blacklisted me" waaah waaah waaah whining is not standing up to or for anything. Yeah you really showed him Joe you do a meaningless cable access program, and you're writing a blog,.OOOOOOOOH you really stuck it to him!. You constantly try to harp on my working in NEW YORK?.I just dont get that one man, Joe if I wanted to work full time I would, luckily I dont need to, Im happy on air in NYC, and doing voice overs, Im voicing stations all over the country and doingc ommercials and promos too. Ills send you a copy of my last Sony PSP national spot which I collect residuals on monthly......... Your constant attempts to insult my career dont mean anything, it doesnt prove me wrong and unlike yourself IM HAPPY WITH MY CAREER... You never hear me complaining about who blacklisted me et c, you never hear me complaining about working part time, you on the other hand whine, whine, whine, "Oedipus, Oedipus, Odipus Nik Nik Nik. YOU are obsessed with him, you're obsessed with me,.it's sick and it's old. GEt some help and move on.
 
Here is the final word

Joe I am going to say this and then the subject is closed as far as Im concerned. You've spent the better part of your life Consumed by your hatred of one man, blaming one man for your situation. He is a wealthy man who will never have to work another day in his life, his aircheck is in the rock and roll hall of fame, he travels the world, goes scuba diving in BELIZE, goes to Tailand several times a year just because he likes it there. He has walls and walls of gold and platinum plaques in his MANSION.

You are a penniless man who hosts a cable access show and rarely seems happy about anything except the misfortunes of others as evidenced by your constant negative, nit picking posts here about Rush, Karl Rove, Howie Carr, Chuck Nowlin, Carter Alan, Tony Berardini, Oedipus, CBS, RKO, ODS, BCN, ME, and on and on...... SO


Was it worth it?.
 
Nik, your credibility remains in a shambles. I do quite well with my record label, my writings and my consulting business, thank you very much. The thank you notes and the good vibes from promoting great music makes me happy - and - I can sleep at night.

Oedipus is a corrupt person who is unethical. You were hired not because you have any talent - a fact we've all seen in tedious time and time again form here in your very pen (such as it is), you were hired because Oedipus needs people like you, Roy and other shills. Roy Roy Roy, Nik, you never address the facts.

What was "Roy" doing at the station, Nik? enough people have come forward on that one. The community knows about Roy delivering CDs to retail in and around Boston. What did those CDs appear by magic?
These are truths that are well documented.

You write Karl Rove lies and you are caught in them. Watch as you can't resist responding to this, even though you have repeatedly said it was your last response. Liar. What school system did you go to?

That Oedipus is still using you to attack me is so very clear (Nik denies again - watch it appear from the void),
you have no talent, you cannot spell, you can't keep a job in radio if not for political reasons, you are on a weekend shift and no one wants your stupidity on the air. Get a grip - you have failed in your mission, and someone used you because he had an agenda. How many Program Directors make "millions"? Only the ones who obtained PAYOLA. He doesn't have the brains or the talent. Neither do you.

Have a nice life, [EDIT]. Please keep that promise to yourself and do NOT respond.

[EDIT=name calling]
 
you both are ridiculous and should meet for lunch so you can continue your lovefest in private instead of devalueing this board.
 
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH You're devalueing the board,....... ;D.............Im just kidding man, you're right, completely, YOU are right!. I said before nobody cares but as long as he's going to lie about and bad mouth me im going to set him straight, or at least ridicule him!. Look Oedipus was a legendary programmer and the second his name comes up Varulven [EDIT] always has to start his diatribe of "payola" "he sold cd's", "he blacklisted me" etc. Look I dont care if the guy clubbed a baby seal, ripped open it's chest, and ate the heart while it was still beating in front of a group of infants!..............he is still a legendary programmer and that is really all there is to it.

PS

Dude admit it, that was funny! :D

[EDIT=ad hominem attack]
 
Varulven said:
Actually, Nik, Mark & I knew each other quite well in the "alternative bars" of Boston and in radio. I worked for his ex-wife.
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Mark had an EX-WIFE? How did THAT happen...?

Who knew?

Varulven said:
You see, Nik, you are the only one who is shedding a tear for Oedipus because he hired you to fulfill an agenda. No offense, Nik, but...
Click to expand...

I give up.....what was the "agenda"?
 
Welcome to the Joe and Nik show.

Get a room will ya. How about a Fox show, Joe and Nik fight it out in the ring. The winner wins the other just stops. Enough is enough.

Thanks for listening.

P.S. I'm SURE Oedipus mad his millions selling those demo 45 RPMs at Looney Tunes ;D
 
Mark's ex-wife

Yes, Mark Parenteau was married to Gail Parenteau. She is now a publicist in New York.
In "the good old days", Gail was one of the most powerful agents in the U.S.A. - when bands from
Europe wanted to play America Gail could book 5 states in the mid-west, starting with Michigan.
If you got her to book your band - say "Jethro Tull" or "Ten Years After" (I'm suggesting the typical
acts of the day, but pretty sure she booked both of them), it was easier for Don Law and Ron Delsner
in Boston and New York, respectively, to bring the acts over. They were assured 7 dates at that point,
and probably could snowball it into an entire tour of the US. This is what I've heard through the grapevine.

Pretty funny the new poster would write "Who knew" because that's exactly what
Gail said to me in regard to Mark's private life "Who knew?" -

They were married and were a "power couple". I believe Mark announced the shows as the m.c., perhaps at the Detroit concerts.

RE: Oedi's agenda

The agenda was for Oedi to cut the payroll. That was his gig. Interesting that this week he got a taste of his own medicine. Take what Nik writes with lots of suspicion - my former business partner, the late - great Gene
Sylvester, editor of the Wakefield Daily Times & Chronicle, was also writing stuff for Charles. You want to talk about restraint of trade, when Oedipus found out that Gene & I shared an office he was not allowed to work on Charles' show.

Now that's a man with an "agenda". How did Oedipus know that Gene & I shared an office? That's the $64,000.00 question and it is rather creepy when some program director knows so much about one man - me. It was hilarious hearing the stories, though, and sad to also hear about Oedipus pushing employees around. When he pushed Ken
Shelton out the door he said to Charles (according to Gene) "Ken Shelton is irrelevant."

Irrelevant? The man who helped build the station that Oedipus used so thoroughly for his own personal gain.

I also have some first-hand knowledge how Oedipus treated Charles, the legend, during contract negotiations.

Gene Sylvester and Mark Parenteau were not the only guys to come forward - there were a LOT of ex-employees - disgruntled people - I never met prior to their calling me with complaints about Oedipus. People personally watching him stuff CDs into his little white van, so many stories about Roy distributing the product. Oedipus personally going to Nuggets to deliver the goods. It would make a marvelous movie of the week for TBS or something. My files are quite detailed and the Agenda of Oedipus is really shocking in that he had so many writers at The Globe, The Herald and elsewhere in his back pocket. It will be VERY interesting to see who writes what now that he is out of power and the CBS attorneys won't be at his beck and call.
 
LMAO OH SHE KNEW he was gay,....... the stories are rampant about "the good old days" [EDIT], that I know from Parenteau himself. Cutting the payroll?...Joe I made a very, very good salary...... as a matter of fact second only to Dale Dorman for afternoons, so much for the Oedipus agenda of cutting the payroll then again you find me a manager in ANY industry who is not under pressure to cut his or her payroll? it is LIFE joe, that is the way that American business works, they try to get the most by paying the least Who does not know that?. Anyway the general manager is the one who decides who gets paid what, the PD has his or her budget and they are charged to come in beneath it, and dont cry for poor Charles, he's a multi millionaire a few times over thanks to Mel too....... You have so many fantasies that are just not rooted in reality my friend. You've been on the outside of that building for over twenty five years, you are in no position to comment on what went on inside because you simply do not know. ANY account you have is third hand at best.. You're taking the word of..Parenteau about why he was fired?? Parenteau will always try to convince the world that he was let go becuase of money, or because of his age, not true, he had no ratings, none, I came in and Afternoons had a 9.4 compared to WAAF which had a 13.8, in the target demo. He handed me the keys to the Titanic..............He could not beat his competition, EVER............That is all there was to it. You cannot spin that to suit your conspiracy theories, numbers do not lie, he didnt have any, for years,,,,,,,,,,,end of the story.

Your files on Oedipus?......................yeah that doesnt scream "Im obsessed"!

[EDIT=possible slander, need factual references]
 
I actually had to register a name to join this board after laughing my behind off listening to Joe.

Oedipus was getting "paid" for play because he accepted promo CD's from record companies?

This is where all these allegations come from? All this fighting/bitterness?

Are you freaking kidding me?

I was a music director for a very long time ... and I think it's bizarre that someone would think this is unusual. I'm not sure if you just don't understand the radio side of the business Joe ... and forgive me, I understand you were a promoter of some sort like 30 years ago or something ... but this bitterness because a PD wouldn't spin your records ... dude, you've got to get over it.

And to attack someone like Nik Carter, a legend in Boston radio -- when you yourself are a free cable access show host -- I gotta tell you pal ... that's just plain old sad.

And you are going to brag about being friends with Mark Parenteau? Talk about living in the past. In addition, the guy's a convicted pedophile. Yikes.
 
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