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Joel Osteen to Buy KB?

Playing the role of Ambassador of Goodwill, I just want to welcome the new and distant posters to the Buffalo-Niagara Falls-Rochester board and this thread in particular. Your contributions are appreciated and add to the vibrancy of the board.

Warmest regards,

Mike Radknowski

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Now, if y'all would make a donation when we pass the plate,
Your reward in heaven will be great.
Can I get a witness!

Somewhere, there's a Hammond B-3 playin' Nearer My God To Thee, can't you just hear it. Put your hand on the radio and say Hallelujah!
 
WWKB.... We Were Known (in) Buffalo
WWKB.... We Will Kill Broadcasting
WWKB.... Why (do we) We Keep Broadcasting?
 
Worker or Witness, I believe WKBW today stands for: We Know Buffalo Isn't Watching(as opposed to when they said they were. Remember when they were huge #1?) while Jim Carey in the flick Bruce Almighty called it Whiny Baby Kitty Wimps.
 
Osteen's preaching is as much motivational as it is religious, it's not "fire and brimstone" at all. He does have some broadcast experience, he worked at the above mentioned TV station his family owned before his father (who started the church) died and Joel took over the ministry.

The church in Houston is huge... they took over the former sports arena... maybe he wants to start churches in other cities? The church apparently rakes in the cash, but Osteen takes no pay... he doesn't need to, he makes a good amount from his book sales.

I have no idea what Osteen would do with these radio stations, but I think he would be better than some "religious" broadcasters.
 
I wouldn't fear "fire and brimstone" and "hellfire and damnation" if he had a station near yall like YEKIMI fears.

I don't "fear" any station, I just don't listen to them. We have gone from one religious station in my area to five. I worked for a station where the owners promised no format changes for 18 months. Nine months later they "donated" the station [and in the process claimed a tax donation for $500,000] to a religious outfit who promptly fired everyone that hadn't left, trashed all the equipment and turned it into a satellite zombie station programmed out of California where it's 40 minutes of preaching and 20 minutes begging for money every hour. And FilioScotia: Yes my radio has an on/off switch, it also has XM radio which is what I spend the majority of my time listening to anymore. As far as marketplace determining success or failure of a format: doesn't seem to apply to religious stations, I've seen some at the bottom of the ratings book for years on end and they NEVER change format, some have been at it 30+ years. They do it by scaring the gullible that they will burn in hell forever if they don't "donate" money to their station. I PERSONALLY know of an older lady that cleaned out her life savings [high five figure account] "donating" money and when adult protective service people became involved stonewalled them all the way and refused to give a dime back, even when told she was in the beginning stages of Dementia....so much for Christian values! If someone of sane mind feels like giving them money, more power to them! Does it sound like I am against religion? No, I'm not, I'm just against charlatans and hucksters using the airwaves to fleece people while the FCC allows them to get away with it. If it had been a Clear Channel, Cumulus or other broadcasting company that pulled stuff like this they would probably have their license to broadcast yanked for eternity.
 
And Then There's This

Perhaps The Reverend Osteen might need the services of this gentlemen for "The Wayword Son Comedy Hour."

Inside Radio said:
Virginia radio preacher pleads guilty.
Tommy Tester was wearing a denim miniskirt and reeking of vodka when police pulled him over in July. This week Tester pleaded guilty to drunk driving and indecent exposure charges. He'll serve a day in jail and spend the rest of his six month sentence on probation. Tester has also been fired from his job at WZAP, Bristol, VA.

"...denim miniskirt and reeking of Vodka..." Ya can't make this stuff up. See! God does have a sense of humor.

;D
 
jh said:
Osteen's preaching is as much motivational as it is religious, it's not "fire and brimstone" at all. He does have some broadcast experience, he worked at the above mentioned TV station his family owned before his father (who started the church) died and Joel took over the ministry.

The church in Houston is huge... they took over the former sports arena... maybe he wants to start churches in other cities? The church apparently rakes in the cash, but Osteen takes no pay... he doesn't need to, he makes a good amount from his book sales.

I have no idea what Osteen would do with these radio stations, but I think he would be better than some "religious" broadcasters.

but he Never speaks on consequences..
I'm not a fire and brimstone kind of guy, but if you don't include the consequences of sin, the fact that satin is real , and hell is real result of not accepting the teachings of the Bible, you aren't teaching the complete Gospel of Christ. Therefore, a person is NOT getting the full gospel presentation ! That is where i have a conflict with labeling his MOTOVATIONAL SPEAKING as a gospel presentation
 
Satin is real. I like the feel of it against my skin - especially if there's a hot woman on the other side of it.

I guess that means that I'm under the influence of Satan. Damn!
 
davidtheworm said:
but he Never speaks on consequences..
I'm not a fire and brimstone kind of guy, but if you don't include the consequences of sin, the fact that satin is real , and hell is real result of not accepting the teachings of the Bible, you aren't teaching the complete Gospel of Christ. Therefore, a person is NOT getting the full gospel presentation ! That is where i have a conflict with labeling his MOTOVATIONAL SPEAKING as a gospel presentation


You remind me of a story on satin and the sin of adultery:

Did you tell her she was sleeping
in the Bed you made for me
Did she like my satin sheets?
Did you sing her to sleep?
And my pillow that she slept on
Did it bring her sweet dreams?
Did her she was sleeping in the bed for me?


The Bed You Made for Me, Highway 101
 
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satin is real [/quote]

OK ! So the diagnosed dyslexic forgot to use the spell check !

I wasn't trying to get on a soapbox, just sharing my view.
 
I've been reading all the comments left about this particular subject and am amazed
how people whether they believe or not are just so easy to criticize and spew so
much negativity when it comes to religion. I know this is a site to give opinions, but
why come down on something that is doing nothing but good for people and giving
hope and joy. Why rain down on their parade? Who are we to judge. Is it a case of
your own insecurities? It's just so easy to be negative and tear down people, how
about looking in the mirror and start with yourself. You may not agree with certain things
but if you truly believe, the worst thing you can do is to judge and criticize, which is a
form of hate and jealousy and we know what the good book has to say about that.
 
I didn't see a lot of negativity here. In fact, I'm rather amused by the creativity of some of people who participated in this thread. I think the bottom line is that there are very few of us in the radio business who would want to see KB Radio become a religious station. Say what you will about KB now. But at least it has some programming, especially Joey Reynolds' all night show, that has me keeping the station on my pre-set buttons and tuning in. But if it goes religious, that's when KB will no longer exist for me.

I'm not a big fan of religious broadcasters. They've scarfed up a lot of frequencies in the non-profit part of the FM band between 88 and 92MHZ. It's not as much of a problem here as it is in other parts of the country where some public stations which want to present high-quality NPR programming are in a fight with religious broadcasters for available frequencies.

And there's doesn't appear to be a lot of listener interest in such programming, at least in Buffalo. Even a powerhouse such as WDCX gets a one share or less. The rest of the religious broadcasters here don't even register a rating. Maybe it's different in bible-belt areas of the country, so I won't make a broad generalization on this.

For me, I practice my religion at my church and in the privacy of my home. I'm not saying there isn't a place for religious stations. They're just not for me. And I'd hate to see the once mighty KB fall into the hands of Joel Osteen. And by saying that, I'm not belittling religion or the important role it plays in the life of people, as the previous poster seemed to suggest.
 
At the risk of revealing too much, let me first say that Phil's post addresses the questions of 10-4 Good Buddy rather objectively. I second that (e)motion. Now, to step out on the thin branch, I can understand "Buddy's" dedication to the Gospel, but given the history of radio and television proselytizers and evangelists, I'm jaded.

Jimmy Swaggart, Tammy Faye, James Bakker; Pat Robertson and those Catholic priests who violated young men and women don't give a lot of people reason to believe. The last thing we need are more Elmer Gantry types and more Aimeee Semple McPhersons.

Now before you get all fired up, let me say that I believe those incidents are the exception to the rule and the norm in all religions. Equally importantly, I believe religion, faith and worship should not be worn on one's sleeve. Frankly, I'm disgusted by the gymnastics, pandering and maneuvering of some politicians simply to court the religious vote.

I don't believe anybody has a pre-destined place in heaven, "Born Again" or not. It's not an automatic just because you believe in Jesus Christ, born of the Father, one in being with the Holy Spirit, the Triune God.

"When you pray, go to your room and pray in private and the Father will hear you."

"When you fast, do not paint your face as if you are in pain like the Pharisees and Sadducees."

"When you are invited to dinner as a guest, do not sit at the front of the table, lest you be asked to give up your seat and move to the back. Instead, sit at the back so when your host sees you, he will say, 'Friend, why are you sitting here? Come to the front of the table and sit with me.'"

You want more of this plus the Baltimore Catechism? The good Sisters taught us well.

Just because you or I might go to church, temple or mosque every Friday, Saturday and/or Sunday doesn't mean we're at the front of the line to eternal happiness. Just because we might believe in Jesus Christ and the salvation of the cross, doesn't mean we're any better than those who observe the rules of Islam, Judaism or Buddhism... or for that matter, agnostics or atheists.

Actions speak louder than words.

In my reading of the Good Book, nowhere does it say Jesus walked with the rich, the proud or with royalty. He walked with leppers, prostitues and tax collectors. And nowhere in the Bible does he appear wearing thousand dollar suits and a Rolex. Funny, when I see these religious pretenders prancing around on stage on TV on Sunday morning, or watch the poseurs on CBN, they always look well fed, well dressed and in some cases, extremely well made up. And oh, so unctuous.

Getting back to Phil's rejoinder, most of us know KB as an integral part of our lives and formative years. We know it's now on life support, but we keep lighting candles and saying radio novenas. Hoping against hope. Hoping and believing there's life after death, even in radio.

Isn't that called Faith?
 
No suprise at radknowski and sheridan's response, but everyone is missing my point.
Whenever there is talk of any kind of religion, whether it be in radio or whatever, it
seems that all people want to do is ridicule and criticize. I under there have been plenty
of religious leaders that have fallen from the tree, but that doesn't mean you group the
good ones with them. For every "bad" one there are plenty of good out there. As adults
we have to be wise enough to know right from wrong, good from bad. So for all the Rolex
wearing, bling bling TV preachers that disgust you so, there are the Joel Osteen's out there
who mean well and do alot of good. I know that religious talk of any kind is one of the most
heated and polarizing topics there will ever be, but again who are we to judge and say who
are the good and bad just because they don't fit your profile. Unless you spend 24/7 with them,
don't judge a book by it cover.
 
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