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K269FD- Audio

They might as well shut down that transmitter I can't even tell if its spanish or english as bad as it sounds.
 
Well you got my attention with this post. I will comment here for the first time on something that has been upsetting me for a while. I have filed a few complaints with the FCC and to this date, nothing has been done. This group is so illegal I'm surprised they aren't feeding K269FD over an internet feed. The owners according to the FCC are ISSAC RUIZ MORA, SAMUEL RUIZ MORA, FELIX FERNANDO RUIZ AND OFELIA MORA DE RUIZ. The station's moniker is Radio Ola. They claim they are feeding two translators in San Antonio (K229BJ and K222BS) off KTNR 92.1 in Kenedy, TX. That's 71.52 miles away. There is no way KTNR makes it this far into San Antonio but yet they are still claiming this is the primary station for all their translators. Yeah right! They don't even have studios in Kenedy. Their studios are here in San Antonio on 601 NW Loop 410 Suite 103. It looks like they are now trying to make an attempt to be a little less illegal (after 6 months) by not only having a San Antonio number but now they have a toll free number and they have since applied with the FCC to change KTNR from a Commercial to a Non Commercial station. (I don't know how this is going to work for them since they have so many commercials on the San Antonio translators and even their website is full of "advertise with us" banners) I'm just amazed and baffled how they have continued to operate like this without getting busted by the FCC. If you're here in San Antonio, tune in and listen to them. They promote 93.7 and 105.9 (the two translators) as being their main radio stations and even encourage listeners to call in and stop by their studios here in San Antonio. I'm pretty sure they are transmitting illegally also. K229BJ is licensed on ASR 1008663 yet there are no FM antennas on that tower. In fact, the translator barely even comes in at all at that site. You have to drive further south into San Antonio before the station gets stronger. And the footprint of the signal is so huge I highly doubt they are pumping out 62 Watts (what they are licensed for). They are not the only translators here in San Antonio broadcasting illegally but since this post is about this group I will not mention the others (for now).
 
It should be noted that KTNR Kenedy has been off the air for a long time. In fact it looks like they are on a low power backup antenna. Their address? Who knows.

Clouseau
 
Marcel A. Yanez said:
....I have filed a few complaints with the FCC and to this date, nothing has been done....

Well, if you used the FCC's online complaint system, or complained to the main number in Washington, (1-888-TELL FCC) don't expect anything done. The staff answering the phone there doesn't seem to be able to even take a message without screwing it up.

I have had good luck calling directly to the "Enforcement Branch", where the staff that answers the phone seems to be more competent, and actually gives a rat's a** about rule enforcement and getting things done.

Try 202-418-1160, and tell them the story.

BTW, this is also occurring all over S. Texas, including Victoria, and CC. also.
 
All of the new stations, power changes, and translators create coverage overlaps that the 'old FCC' avoided. At this rate, they will all obliterate each other's signals in a few years. So sad.
 
It almost sounds like a 20-40kbps internet stream to me (or lower)
 
Marcel A. Yanez said:
It looks like they [KTNR] are now trying to make an attempt to be a little less illegal (after 6 months) by not only having a San Antonio number but now they have a toll free number and they have since applied with the FCC to change KTNR from a Commercial to a Non Commercial station.

Unless I'm misreading things it looks like the FCC received an application for that change Monday of this week and dismissed it Wednesday. But it's not like that will be the end of it, of course.
 
clouseau said:
In fact it looks like they are on a low power backup antenna.

Well according to their license (and application to move to non comm) they are using a SWR FM3 antenna with 3 bays. But here is a pic of their tower and there are only 2 bays on it: http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/marcel_yanez/KTNR.jpg

While they do look like SWR it's really hard to tell from ground level with the camera zoomed into the antenna if they are indeed the FM3 model. The copper straps between the elements look more light duty like those used on the FME low power antennas. If you look at this picture of an FM3 the straps between the elements look more tubular: http://www.swr-rf.com/img/fm3.jpg
 
jd said:
Marcel A. Yanez said:
It looks like they [KTNR] are now trying to make an attempt to be a little less illegal (after 6 months) by not only having a San Antonio number but now they have a toll free number and they have since applied with the FCC to change KTNR from a Commercial to a Non Commercial station.

Unless I'm misreading things it looks like the FCC received an application for that change Monday of this week and dismissed it Wednesday. But it's not like that will be the end of it, of course.

You're correct. The FCC did dismiss it.

"Dismissed 12/30/2009 via PN - application proposes conversion from Commercial to Non-commercial status, but current licensee is not a noncommercial organization or institution - no letter sent"

Yeah they are just individuals and unless they plan on opening up a church or starting up some non profit organization that won't work for them. But I'm sure they will weasel something together claiming they are some sort of religious group or something and apply for a 501c.
 
Actually after going through and reading the translator rules again, only non comm translators can be fed via satellite or internet audio. Even if they switch KTNR to a non comm station and it being their primary station, they could only feed translators that were in the non comm band. K222BS, K229BJ, and K269FD would still have to be fed off an over the air terrestrial signal. So no matter what they would still be operating illegally here in San Antonio and in Luling. There is no way KTNR a 6KW station at 80 meters up in the air in Kenedy, Texas can broadcast that far. Just listen to KHHL 103.1 which is 21 miles more north with 34KW of power at 179 meters and it barely makes it into San Antonio's south side. I went out to my car right now and tuned my radio to 92.1 and I was picking up is KNBT which is in New Braunfels. You would think if their over the air tuners at their translator transmitter sites were set on 92.1 they would be picking up the same thing I did. I really hope someone from the FCC reads these boards and looks further into this. They are blatantly violating the rules.
 
Marcel A. Yanez said:
Actually after going through and reading the translator rules again, only non comm translators can be fed via satellite or internet audio.

Also, the translator and primary station must be co-owned to use alternative feeds.

Fred, if that is what is happening, you should hear a legal ID "XXXX-HD2" every hour.
 
AFAIK, KTNR has been off the air for several months. It's amazing what translator operators will do.
 
fredcantu said:
Iused2nothat said:
Fred, if that is what is happening, you should hear a legal ID "XXXX-HD2" every hour.

There is a legal ID for KXXS-HD2 Elgin-Austin heard on 106.5.
As it should be.

I was talking about the translators being discussed here in Victoria, and San Antonio.

I thought your comment meant that you thought they might be fed from an HD2, HD3, etc. If they were, you should hear that XXXX-HDx legal ID on them. Its not likely you will hear anything like that because they are not really being operated as translators.

clouseau said:
AFAIK, KTNR has been off the air for several months. It's amazing what translator operators will do.

Clouseau, this is going on in your market, taking $ away from your legal stations. Why don't you do something about it instead of bad-mouthing all translator operators?
 
Clouseau, this is going on in your market, taking $ away from your legal stations. Why don't you do something about it instead of bad-mouthing all translator operators?

I'm the last guy to bad mouth ALL trabnslator operators. I are one. :)

But some of our bretheren tend to be fast and loose with the rules. Currently, CC doesn't seem to be among them. For now.

Clouseau
 
The station was actually off the air for a few days I see it came back on. They are differently streaming ISDN or something lower. I can tell by the audio.
 
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