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Katie's Ratings Set Record Low

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Al Johnson

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When the ratings for “The CBS Evening News” dipped to 5.9 million for the week ended May 25 - an all-time low, and a smaller audience than former anchors Dan Rather and Bob Schieffer ever saw - it meant CBS was paying $2.51 per viewer. By comparison, ABC’s Charlie Gibson-anchored “World News Tonight,” cost 89 cents per viewer (read more - Don Kaplan-NY Post)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06032007/business/the_surprise__fall_of_kati_business_don_kaplan.htm

Lower even the Douglas Edwards when Uncle Walter replaced him.

Here's how much everybody gets paid per viewer:
Kate $2.51
Dan Rather $1.00
Charlie Gibson $.89
Brian Williams $.55
Bob Schieffer $.48

The Post doesn't tell us how much per viewer it costs to produce each show.
And they don't say how much per viewer advertisers are paying (probably a lot less than two and a half bucks).

CBS may be starting to realize that they had a really good thing going with The CBS Evening News with Arnold Zenker.
Bring back Arnold!

Or maybe a new concept: Reverse pay per view. Pay me $2.50 per show and I'll watch. (Can I Tivo the show and fast forward through Katie and just watch the Metamucil spots?)
 
I know I am in the minority but I liked Bob Schiefer and we watched him every night untill they put her on and we have not watched her once, we actually watch very little network news now. I do on occasion flip betweeen NBC & ABC but I don't tune in like I did with Scheifer.
 
You're NOT in the minority, Steve. Bob Schieffer did an excellent job as anchor as evidenced by CBS's success during that time. After the initial bump for Katie, CBS has been sinking like a rock.
 
"You're NOT in the minority, Steve. Bob Schieffer did an excellent job as anchor as evidenced by CBS's success during that time. After the initial bump for Katie, CBS has been sinking like a rock."

You are DEFINITELY not in the minority, Steve. Bob Schieffer is smart, witty, a great reporter with many years of experience, and just fine on camera. I don't think many people care that he's old. Besides - how many years younger is #1 rated Charles Gibson? Gibson is close to 60, so Schieffer would be 10 or 12 years older, I guess.

Viewers - even younger viewers - value expeience, and don't necessarily want Anderson Cooper types anchoring the news. IMHO, CBS would be smart to bring Schieffer back to the anchor chair. He probably wouldn't return CBS to #1, but it hasn't been #1 for years anyway. But it's still a respected news organization, and Schieffer would reflect that. Couric does not.
 
I wonder when CBS is going to abandon ship and give Katie her own entertainment show because that's exactly where her line of work is more consistant of and that is Today Show type interviews with entertainers. She is not a newswoman who gives out serious news. We have local women newscasters in San Antonio (Leslie Mouton, Ursela Pari, Deborah Knapp, Deborah Daniels) who would run rings around Katie and more besides.
 
AlexBrowne said:
You're NOT in the minority, Steve. Bob Schieffer did an excellent job as anchor as evidenced by CBS's success during that time. After the initial bump for Katie, CBS has been sinking like a rock.

I agree to both! When Bob (and Dan) was doing the Evening News, I was watching it all the time. Now since Katie is on there, I never watch the CBS Evening News, but I watch more of the Today show. I just can't stand Katie.
 
I think you're all gender biased. But go ahead and be that way; none of you are in the target demographic, so your opinion is irrelevant anyway. ;)
 
I won't watch Katie Couric either. I never did when she was at NBC's "Today". Ugh!
 
Braves2005 said:
I wonder when CBS is going to abandon ship and give Katie her own entertainment show because that's exactly where her line of work is more consistant of and that is Today Show type interviews with entertainers. She is not a newswoman who gives out serious news. We have local women newscasters in San Antonio (Leslie Mouton, Ursela Pari, Deborah Knapp, Deborah Daniels) who would run rings around Katie and more besides.

What about Sarah Lucero? I'd PAY to see her on the CBS Evening News!! ;)
 
We're just glad that the low ratings for CBS Evening News, which airs here at 5, aren't effecting our 5:30 newscast.
 
Put me down as a Bob Schieffer fan as well. When you watched him, you knew that he was so genuine and that he came across so well.

The problem with watching Katie, is that when she's doing the news - that's not her natural personality. Her personality is so much better when she's relaxed... instead of trying to be serious.
 
Bob Schieffer did an excellent job on the CBS Evening News, just as he does with Face the Nation. If I recall from one of his books, Bob said that he had to travel to NYC from Washington each day to do the Evening News (he apparently likes where he lives in the DC metro area and doesn't want to give up doing Face the Nation. That might have something to do with why Katie was given the opportunity. Bob may have not wanted the gig as anchor on the Evening News, but was filling in until they could get someone. Unfortunately, CBS didn't pick the best person to replace Bob.
 
The bigger issue here is NOT Katie Couric herself. I don't see Katie any less credible than Williams, Schiefer and Gibson.

It's that a woman is doing the network evening news and it's apparent that the majority are not ready to accept someone doing the evening news on a nightly basis. Yeah, NBC uses Campbell Brown to fill-in, occasionally, on their Nightly News, but it's just that -- fill-in. I am sure if she was doing the nightly news regularly, NBC would be having the same ratings' issues.

Perhaps' Katie would be best served on CBS doing "The Early Show" until the average network news viewer can get past their sexism.
 
FACTman said:
The bigger issue here is NOT Katie Couric herself. I don't see Katie any less credible than Williams, Schiefer and Gibson.

It's that a woman is doing the network evening news and it's apparent that the majority are not ready to accept someone doing the evening news on a nightly basis. Yeah, NBC uses Campbell Brown to fill-in, occasionally, on their Nightly News, but it's just that -- fill-in. I am sure if she was doing the nightly news regularly, NBC would be having the same ratings' issues.

Perhaps' Katie would be best served on CBS doing "The Early Show" until the average network news viewer can get past their sexism.

I don't agree with you here. Sexism is not the issue at all. It's not that she's a woman, it is that she is the wrong woman.

The problem that Katie has is two-fold:

1) Katie lacks gravitas. A generation ago, Barbara Walters made the transition from the Today Show to the evening news. But, Barbara Wa-wa was always considered to be a 'serious journalist' and not just a feature reporter. She really did pretty well - and continues her venerable career (in semi-retirement) to this day. Unquestionably, Katie is stuck in our collective psyche as a feature reporter. You know, the one who interviews the models and the dog trainer. And, her performance and style during the first months of her CBS stint did nothing to make people feel otherwise. She is not considered as a serious journalist, and probably never will be. This is the kiss of death for an evening newscast.

2) Katie clearly has a credibility problem in some quarters. Yes, all network newscasts get painted as being biased to the left. But, in Katie's case, there have been so many personal (and very public) examples of her personal political leanings that fully 50% of the public wanted nothing to do with her newscast from day one. That immediately limits her potential audience. Do Charlie and Brian have personal political leanings? Did Bob? I'm sure that they do. But, we cannot be sure of them and they are not obvious. Those guys collectively get a pass on this issue. In Katie's case, her interview style on "Today" showed her to be a liberal and her public support for her sister's candidacy (now one of Virginia's most liberal state representatives) confirmed it. It was all too public. I remember the day that she was interviewing two guests on "Today" about a *no special rights for gays* referendum in Colorado. She abjectly slammed the guy who supported the referendum (which passed, BTW), while giving an obvious velvet glove to the gay advocate. It was so blatant that people in the office were talking about it when I got to work. It's one of many examples where she just could not contain her personal feelings (a la Bryant Gumbel).

In the end, those that wanted to give her show a try were there for the first few days. The light and breezy style of the newscast clearly turned many of them off. Also, you need to remember the audience for the evening news shows: people who tend to be older and more habitual. The days of these programs being shared nationally are over. The audience is splintered. The news junkies are already watching CNN, Fox News or (to a much lesser extent), MSNBC. When there's breaking news, most folks go to one of those options. Those who like the light entertainment stuff are already checking out E! or VH1 or one of the syndicated shows (on another channel) such as ET. Although CBS has since changed the format, its too late - people's minds are made up.

The real fans of these shows are somewhat old-school about it. They want a NEWS presentation that encapsulates the day's news into 30 minutes. And, they want it from an authorative figure. The fact is, Katie Couric was a POOR choice in the first place and the early versions of the newscast (morphing it into a features program) sealed the deal. Particularly when the CBS audience is probably the most traditional of all. Now, they're getting killed.

Something will have to be done......
 
I agree, its not that she's a woman, it is her overall delivery that is wrong. When I get my news, I want the straight story, and I don't want it sugar-coated. I want the feelling that I am getting the scoop, the hard facts, about some nasty thing that nobody else wants to tell me. With Couric, I don't have that feeling. From the start,she played down to expectations, giving a "softer touch" to the news. And by skipping or downplaying the other stories of the day, I felt short changed.

I wouldn't mind having a woman, if it is someone like Barbara Walters, or Dianne Sawyer, or even Jane Pauly. I don't sure don't want someone who is perky. I want the news, I want it fast, I want it straight, and I want it now. None of those are Katie Couric's strong points
 
I think Americans just don't care for women delivering their news, at least not on a national basis.

Barbara Walters has been reduced to hosting a "coffee clutch" like all the other females in the 1950s did. Really her legacy is the light entertainment interviews she does before the Oscars.

Diane Sawyer back to the "light" morning news, far away from the hard hitting "60 Minutes."

Connie Chung, a joke on YouTube.

The only woman I can think of that has any real journalistic crediblity is CNN's Christine Amanpour.

Locally women seem to fair a bit better. But that may be the "Oprah Effect," where you see in almost all the markets where Oprah airs before the local news that news is #1.
 
I don't think it's a question of Katie's gender either.
When I watch Charlie or Brian I feel I've got a good
idea of what happened in the world that day; CBS,
on the other hand, is so feature-oriented I don't get
that feeling.

BTW, Charlie is 64, but someone made the point that
even young people are going to turn to the anchor they
feel has the most experience and is (by implication) the
most trustworthy. Remember when ABC hired 26-year-old
Peter Jennings in hopes of attracting young people who
didn't/don't normally watch news? Well, when important
stories broke, those young people tuned to Walter Cronkite.
And I think the same holds true 40 years on: even young
people are going to go where they believe the anchor has
the most credibility, and I don't think that anchor is going
to be Katie. But that's my two cents.

I STILL THINK CBS SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THE JOB TO
JOHN ROBERTS!
 
OK, but should we blame Katie for this fiasco??? I think not. If someone offered you a $15 million contract to do the news, you would accept it.

As for other women in broadcasting, Barbara Walters was always an interviewer in my book. She didn't make a "successful" transition to evening news. Don't forget that Barbara was on the LOWEST rated evening newscast! (Does that sound familiar???).

My question to America is: If I put Diane Sawyer (arguably equivalent to Charles Gibson from the experience perspective) on the evening news, would her ratings be identical to Charles' at this point?
 
Sure, I'd take $15 million. But don't forget: Katie
is managing editor of the CBS Evening News, so
the broadcast is going to, to some extent, reflect
her tastes and journalistic point of view.

Barbara Walters and Harry Reasoner were a textbook
definition of hostility; after awhile they didn't even
appear together on camera (Harry was especially
hostile, since the year before he'd gotten his chance
to anchor solo, not that it did ABC's ratings any good).
So what happened? ABC revamped the format as World
News Tonight (or World News, as it's called now) and we
all know how that turned out.

Your question about Diane Sawyer is impossible to answer,
but I believe she projects more authority than Katie. I'm
not sure she could be number one but I think (just on gut
feeling) she would improve CBS's numbers.

I think a better choice for a female anchor would be one
of three: Jane Pauley, Lesley Stahl, or Christiane Amanpour
(sp?).
 
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