seems like "Rolling in the Deep " got bumped from "#1" by Pitbull
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KATY PERRY LAST FRIDAY NIGHT (TGIF)
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Ahhh...I was wxman. No wonder I was confused by landtuna's comment. I should of picked up on the "climb up from singing in church" blurb...guess this is the problem with thread drifts..lol
They release singles from an album these days like file sharing among peers. Once the album is released on a CD ...you can release they whole album as singles or files. Doesn't matter if it fails they just release another till it gets accepted for radio airplay. Back in the Madonna /Michael Jackson days...releasing a single was more of a heavy decision because you had to press tons of vinyl. Plus picture sleeves. And if it fails...it's a cost. So you had to be very decisive. Beyonce's first single was a bomb on her latest album (and it sure sounded like it)that it failed it's second week for airplay. So it's easy to release another single which has faired much better so far. and as long as it's getting airplay and hitting the top, they'll just release singles or files until it exhaust itself, especially if they had previous singles or releases with successful airplay positions.
You can't compare what the music chart industry today compared to the 80's. Not even mentioning the growing formats.
You can't compare what the music chart industry today compared to the 80's. Not even mentioning the growing formats.
Starbucks said:
While I agree with what you say (there's really nothing to dispute), I think this is a big accomplishment for Ms. Perry and her record label, etc. Our culture is so disposable now that I actually find it impressive that there is a potential for five #1s from one album- all within an 18 month stretch (assuming Last Friday Night actually hits #1)
The potential for Katy Perry burnout is great- yet she keeps plugging away with #1s. Sure some of it can be tied to gimmicks and having her shoved down our pop culture throats, but at the end of the day, songs have to actually be purchased and requested at radio stations, have good call out numbers, etc to make it to #1- so I still view this as an accomplishment for her.
It's a good release and single, no doubt about it. Much better then ET. In the 80's ....ET would've probably been the last single release if the company thought it was worth releasing. But lately , the record industry is starting to burnout these artists like Rihanna, Katy Perry, no matter how good their singles are. For example...Bruno Mars with the some (other group I can't think of) just released has him featured on it. 80% featured. David Guetta comes out billed with his name , but it's another artist we have heard who has currently 3 singles on the chart and on his tenth one this year. How many times can you hear Bruno and all we need is another Rihanna song. The latest songs on the charts of top 40 has waned alittle bit since it's resurgence a year and half ago. It needs to stop glorifying these artist. They have more spots on the chart then the Beatles. But that was a different delayed story.
Starbucks said:
The Beatles are one of those artists that is hard to compare to any other artists- as it was their time in history. Few artists come to mind who could really say they own the charts at any given time like the Beatles.
I get what you're saying about burnout from artists like Katy Perry, Rihanna, etc. Hip hop seems to be especially adept at this burnout factor, too. Still, you can't fault the record companies for striking while the iron is hot. These artists appeal to a younger audience, who already has fickle tastes, coupled with the disposable, fast moving culture we live in- they have to strike while the iron is hot and run these artists into the ground and get as much out of them as possible. The truly talented artists tend to stick around even after this initial phase, though. The flash in the pans while simply go away. One could argue it has always been this way- its just at a much more accelerated pace than in the past.
Starbucks said:
Would we even consider Katy Perry or Rihanna to be flashes in the pan? If you have multiple albums resulting in multiple #1s or multiple top 5 singles, then I don't know that they qualify. Arguably, they are two of the core artists at CHR within the past 5 years.
Katy Perry has arguably been more successful at CHR (among other formats) than artists like Christina Aguilera, who still has cultural relevance (even if it is owed more to "the Voice" right now than her actual music).
Idk, to me, if the previous single by an artist hit #1, the label's going to release a follow-up single, whether it's the second single of the album, or the fifth single off the album - since E. T. hit #1, that indicates to the label that listeners aren't burnt out of Katy Perry - I don't think labels abstractly choose how many singles to release off an album (it's just a reaction IMO to how successful each single is)
Can you guys think of a huge #1 song in the last few decades that wasn't followed up by another single? I'm sure it's happened, but it's pretty rare...
Can you guys think of a huge #1 song in the last few decades that wasn't followed up by another single? I'm sure it's happened, but it's pretty rare...
atlantaboy said:
Which begs the question now that Last Friday Night seems like a lock for #1, is there going to be a sixth single off the Teenage Dreams album, and if so, which song? I haven't heard any of the songs off the album other than the singles, so I have no idea if there is a song that would work...
atlantaboy said:
Rihanna and Katy Perry are proven....what I'm referring to now is Bruno, Travie McCoy etc. Madonna has charted for over 20 years as well as Michael Jackson. But they didn't put out this much of product being (Featured) on other singles this much at once. But if they keep over releasing Rihanna and Katy as much as they have...they'll never reach 20 years let alone 10.
Starbucks said:
Don't understand the connection here...there was a long period of time when Madonna was putting out singles one after another for years, and she ended up with a Top 40 career that spanned three decades - just cause artists consistently put out material to CHR doesn't mean they're gonna "burn out" (at least Madonna never did)
I meant all at once. Having a current artist today having 2 singles on the chart ovelapping, plus being featured on another artist current hit song, plus being featured on an artist that's billed like a David Guetta release. And another 3 more singles released from the same CD by the end of the year. That's burnout. Madonna didn't have that many things going at once at one time.
^As far as Katy Perry goes (and GaGa), I think Madonna was a pretty similar situation - there was a time when Material Girl and Crazy For You were charting simultaneously, and she basically had an endless string of hits from about 1984 through 1987
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Starbucks said:
Correct me if I am wrong Starbucks...but neither Gaga or Katy Perry have been featured on others...just like Madonna
Yes they have.....but still there must be a whole lot of talent out there to not have theses artist watered down taking up spots on the playlist when one current hit out is good enough . Or there just not signing enough new artist.. Or there just scaping and getting by as much as they can by releasing as much as they can from an artist.
Madonna was never featured on other artist records back in the 80's while having a current hit out. Example...never was billed as featured on a Michael Jackson, Culture Club, Bruce Springstein, Naked Eyes. They had their own identity without having to put an artist names on the record because he or she sang or rapped a few bars like you have today. Especially while having her own hit album or current single out. That one instance where she had an overlap I believe one of those songs was from a soundtrack. Usually if that happpened it was spaciously released and one of the songs were already in decline of sales and airplay.
Madonna was never featured on other artist records back in the 80's while having a current hit out. Example...never was billed as featured on a Michael Jackson, Culture Club, Bruce Springstein, Naked Eyes. They had their own identity without having to put an artist names on the record because he or she sang or rapped a few bars like you have today. Especially while having her own hit album or current single out. That one instance where she had an overlap I believe one of those songs was from a soundtrack. Usually if that happpened it was spaciously released and one of the songs were already in decline of sales and airplay.
Getting back to the original topic, I really like this song. WAY better than ET and especially Firework - she sounded so strained on that song. Didn't like either one. Best since Teenage Dream. My favorites by Katy, so far, have been TGIF, Teenage Dream, and Hot N Cold.
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