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KBAY is awful compared to 95.3 KRTY

MarkW said:
WYCD seems to be playing Wallen a ton.
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More like WALN... :LOL:
TheBigA said:
Based on streaming charts, 25% of their songs should go to Wallen. In fact KKGO has 6 Wallen songs among its most played.

His popularity is stronger and deeper than Taylor Swift. There is no burn factor. I haven't seen anything like it in recent time.
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He isn't going to still be cranking out hits in 20 years like Taylor, and he hasn't written and sung a full album of just his own songs either!
Weiserguy said:
One other thing: when Bob Kieve died, it turned out that he had made accommodations for some (or all) of the long-time employees to get a cut of the proceeds from the sale of KRTY. I don't know what the financial arrangement was other than employees received a generous (for radio) severance package. But having had the privilege to meet him some years ago, it confirmed my impression that Mr. Kieve was, uncharacteristically, a mensch. One who also logged time working for Dwight Eisenhower in some capacity or other. (My memory's not good enough to recall that specific.)
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He was a former speechwriter for Eisenhower and also gave the Eisenhower Foundation a gift from his estate:

Estate Gift Received from Former Eisenhower Speechwriter | Eisenhower Foundation

Recently, the Eisenhower Foundation was honored to receive a gift from the estate of Robert “Bob” Kieve. Mr. Kieve joined President Eisenhower’s White House staff in 1953 as a speechwriter. In 2017, Mr. Kieve spoke about his experience at the Eisenhower Legacy Gala. He shared humorous...
eisenhowerfoundation.net eisenhowerfoundation.net
 
TheBigA said:
I would bet KEXC might also have a good audience in Marin, but we know they don't reach that far.
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Marin's not that big. It's the smallest of the 9 SFBA counties after San Francisco itself. KEXC's signal covers most, maybe all, of the bayside part of Marin county. Whatever problems there are start west of the hills where the population is sparse, a small fraction of San Rafael, Novato, Mill Valley, which are the population centers.
 
CTListener said:
Yes, it was in response to David's, didn't mean to implicate you, just support your stand while noting that, while one-size-fits-all national network radio in every city as their primary radio service may already be entrenched elsewhere, it is not in the United States, and that bringing up its acceptance/prevalence in Latin America or anywhere else is irrelevant in a forum on American radio.
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And that is why the percentage of ad budgets going to radio are now about half of what they are in the nations with strong "national stations".

A great deal has to do, as I have said before, with the complexity and inconsistency of buying individual local radio markets one by one vs. a single buy or two for national stations
 
davideduardo said:
A great deal has to do, as I have said before, with the complexity and inconsistency of buying individual local radio markets one by one vs. a single buy or two for national stations
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Such a thing could only exist where all stations in all markets operate that way. Because any competition will change the demographics in particular market and it becomes "complicated." Music taste for the most part in this country isn't national.
 
TheBigA said:
Such a thing could only exist where all stations in all markets operate that way. Because any competition will change the demographics in particular market and it becomes "complicated."
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Yes, a national country station will have lower ratings in some markets than others, just as a national Urban format would. But the idea of "national stations" is that you reach the same demographic and lifestyle across the U.S.

If different broadcast groups each has 4 or 5 national formats, they will average out nationally.

Even if Urban AC will do very poorly in LA and San Francisco with a national format, the same company's Hot AC or Classic Rock will compensate.

What is important to see (even if this never happens in the U.S. outside of K-Love) is that "national stations" are loved by agencies and bought enthusiastically even when those are the same agencies that dominate the world ad markets as well.
TheBigA said:
Music taste for the most part in this country isn't national.
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Actually, with the primary sources for music now being national streaming providers, I don't think that is true.
 
davideduardo said:
Actually, with the primary sources for music now being national streaming providers, I don't think that is true.
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I'm hearing there are a lot of local variations in certain artists based on geography and other factors.

Certainly touring can affect artist popularity in certain markets.

I was at a presentation where a format captain for Spotify discussed that.

The label promo departments use that information to increase airplay at local radio stations.

That's why I say KBAY knows local consumption figures for current artists.
 
I can not stand KBAY (( Bay Country))!
I'd rather listen to 103.5 KNTY out of Sacramento or 93.7 KSKS out of Fresno (oh, wait, I cant anymore, because of Spanish KXZM, Thanks guys!!!)
Having 92.7 KTOM over the hill from us helps, but there signal can only be heard on better than average radios.
Sadly KUBB 96.3, cub country, can't make the trek into the bay area with its 1.95kW signal, despite its 2050+ HAAT.
I can occasionally get KHGE, 102.7 (Wolf country) at my location, but its not very often.
Frog country 92.9 KFGY, which serves the Healdsburg, Santa Rosa area, just does not make it past San Francisco
The bay area seriously needs a classic country radio station, like Real country 103.5 KNTY.
KBAY is garbage.
 
formula72 said:
I can not stand KBAY (( Bay Country))!
I'd rather listen to 103.5 KNTY out of Sacramento or 93.7 KSKS out of Fresno (oh, wait, I cant anymore, because of Spanish KXZM, Thanks guys!!!)
Having 92.7 KTOM over the hill from us helps, but there signal can only be heard on better than average radios.
Sadly KUBB 96.3, cub country, can't make the trek into the bay area with its 1.95kW signal, despite its 2050+ HAAT.
I can occasionally get KHGE, 102.7 (Wolf country) at my location, but its not very often.
Frog country 92.9 KFGY, which serves the Healdsburg, Santa Rosa area, just does not make it past San Francisco
The bay area seriously needs a classic country radio station, like Real country 103.5 KNTY.
KBAY is garbage.
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How do you figure a classic country station would work in a country-hostile market like San Francisco? '90s country is even more twangy than today's hick-pop.
 
formula72 said:
I can not stand KBAY (( Bay Country))!
I'd rather listen to 103.5 KNTY out of Sacramento or 93.7 KSKS out of Fresno (oh, wait, I cant anymore, because of Spanish KXZM, Thanks guys!!!)
Having 92.7 KTOM over the hill from us helps, but there signal can only be heard on better than average radios.
Sadly KUBB 96.3, cub country, can't make the trek into the bay area with its 1.95kW signal, despite its 2050+ HAAT.
I can occasionally get KHGE, 102.7 (Wolf country) at my location, but its not very often.
Frog country 92.9 KFGY, which serves the Healdsburg, Santa Rosa area, just does not make it past San Francisco
The bay area seriously needs a classic country radio station, like Real country 103.5 KNTY.
KBAY is garbage.
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CTListener said:
How do you figure a classic country station would work in a country-hostile market like San Francisco? '90s country is even more twangy than today's hick-pop.
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KNTY is all satellite fed.. and what i remember reading when they launched.. its on the wrong signal to attract much of an audience.

classic country as many think of it would be a disaster in san francisco/the bay...and the real country satellite format is like 90s, early 2000s with some late 80s and a few hotter time tested hits that are more recent

And if anyone tried it, itd be on a subpar signal...... and people would kvetch
 
formula72 said:
I can not stand KBAY (( Bay Country))!
I'd rather listen to 103.5 KNTY out of Sacramento or 93.7 KSKS out of Fresno (oh, wait, I cant anymore, because of Spanish KXZM, Thanks guys!!!)
Having 92.7 KTOM over the hill from us helps, but there signal can only be heard on better than average radios.
Sadly KUBB 96.3, cub country, can't make the trek into the bay area with its 1.95kW signal, despite its 2050+ HAAT.
I can occasionally get KHGE, 102.7 (Wolf country) at my location, but its not very often.
Frog country 92.9 KFGY, which serves the Healdsburg, Santa Rosa area, just does not make it past San Francisco
The bay area seriously needs a classic country radio station, like Real country 103.5 KNTY.
KBAY is garbage.
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www.ksks.com

KSKS-FM

93.7 Kiss Country :: KSKS-FM :: Today's Best Country! :: Fresno California
www.ksks.com www.ksks.com
I'm sure there are websites with streams for the other stations you want to listen to.
 
radiofan2023 said:
www.ksks.com

KSKS-FM

93.7 Kiss Country :: KSKS-FM :: Today's Best Country! :: Fresno California
www.ksks.com www.ksks.com
I'm sure there are websites with streams for the other stations you want to listen to.
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What about KAT Country from Modesto? They can be heard in the Far East Bay.
 
formula72 said:
I can not stand KBAY (( Bay Country))!
I'd rather listen to 103.5 KNTY out of Sacramento or 93.7 KSKS out of Fresno (oh, wait, I cant anymore, because of Spanish KXZM, Thanks guys!!!)
Having 92.7 KTOM over the hill from us helps, but there signal can only be heard on better than average radios.
Sadly KUBB 96.3, cub country, can't make the trek into the bay area with its 1.95kW signal, despite its 2050+ HAAT.
I can occasionally get KHGE, 102.7 (Wolf country) at my location, but its not very often.
Frog country 92.9 KFGY, which serves the Healdsburg, Santa Rosa area, just does not make it past San Francisco
The bay area seriously needs a classic country radio station, like Real country 103.5 KNTY.
KBAY is garbage.
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There's my personal favorite KWPX Cowpoke Radio from beautiful downtown Banta, CA. 😁

cowpokeradio.com

World Famous KWPX Cowpoke Radio - Classic Country & Western Music

From the heart of the San Joaquin Valley, the legendary KWPX Cowpoke Radio from Banta, Calif. (the Cowpoke Capital of the World) plays Classic Country Music
cowpokeradio.com cowpokeradio.com
 
KilowattKat said:
I like KAT Country...for an obvious reason. 😺
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I was a fan of KATM and KNTY. Living in the Amador upcountry at about 4000’, both came in better than our local stations on Mt Zion!

Moved down to Laughlin, NV and became a fan of classic country KYET 1170. Good daytime signal here for being 30 miles away in Golden Valley. One of the last AM stereo stations and a very high quality stream!
 


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