Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Does that mean that 102.5 KZOK is a Centralia rimshot? 102.9 used to be KMNT. Why do they call it KNBQ? KNBQ was a Tacoma station that played popular/top40/rock music.
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Does that mean that 102.5 KZOK is a Centralia rimshot? 102.9 used to be KMNT. Why do they call it KNBQ? KNBQ was a Tacoma station that played popular/top40/rock music.
I liked KJET. They introduced me to new wave rock, just as KUUU had with the oldies format. I understand about the fragmentation, too. I've hung with folks that smiled when I played an Elvis or Fats Domino song, but whined to no end about having to hear a Beatles or Kinks song. The reverse is also true. The funny thing about that is, if you asked Lennon & McCartney or the Davies brothers who their influences were, they would say (among others) Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and Buddy Holly.
Mack Daddy said:
Uh, hey Mack... Sometimes call letters are recycled to other areas.
TVradioguru said:
You gotta be kiddin'!
To qualify to be called a "rimshot", the frequency has to be 2nd adjacent to frequency(ies) in a metro market, so that the rimshot transmitter site needs to be 60 miles (or whatever the exact mileage is, can't remember) from the metro transmitter site, in order to meet spacing requirments.
Dallas is a great example. Draw a 60 mile radius around the main Dallas FM site, and you'll find some tall towers (1400 to 2000') with 2nd adjacent signals, licensed to small towns outside of Dallas.
Call letters get grabbed by whoever wants them when they are retired. KLSY was grabbed by a Class A FM in South Bend, WA. It is a 100% simulcast of KFMY (97.7 The Eagle). BTW The Eagle is now a legitimate rim shot.
We ended up with KJET by accident, following a multi-station call letter swap about 10 years ago, in which KSWW became KFMY, KFMY became KJET, KAPV became KSWW, and KJET-AM became KAYO-AM. This was the Hoquiam KJET-AM, which was formerly known as KGHO-AM. I think at the same time the Olympia AM station on 920 became KGHO-AM. Later, the LPFM in Aberdeen picked up the KGHO-LP calls.
The parties that had had KJET never asked for the calls back, and now we've done a decent job of branding 105.7 The Jet KJET in Southwest Washington for the past several years. Bottom line is that call letters mean virtually nothing, and have absolutely nothing to do with ownership, location, frequency. Why some persist in connecting call letters to frequencies and locations boggles my mind.
Dallas is a great example. Draw a 60 mile radius around the main Dallas FM site, and you'll find some tall towers (1400 to 2000') with 2nd adjacent signals, licensed to small towns outside of Dallas.
Call letters get grabbed by whoever wants them when they are retired. KLSY was grabbed by a Class A FM in South Bend, WA. It is a 100% simulcast of KFMY (97.7 The Eagle). BTW The Eagle is now a legitimate rim shot.
We ended up with KJET by accident, following a multi-station call letter swap about 10 years ago, in which KSWW became KFMY, KFMY became KJET, KAPV became KSWW, and KJET-AM became KAYO-AM. This was the Hoquiam KJET-AM, which was formerly known as KGHO-AM. I think at the same time the Olympia AM station on 920 became KGHO-AM. Later, the LPFM in Aberdeen picked up the KGHO-LP calls.
The parties that had had KJET never asked for the calls back, and now we've done a decent job of branding 105.7 The Jet KJET in Southwest Washington for the past several years. Bottom line is that call letters mean virtually nothing, and have absolutely nothing to do with ownership, location, frequency. Why some persist in connecting call letters to frequencies and locations boggles my mind.
Bill Wolfenbarger said:
Boggles your mind? Let me try to help you! You see, People get attatched to certain stations having certain particular formats in certain cities. Now there are stations and frequencies that have changed formats, ownership, location many times. But think of the stations that have been around for a long time. KUBE, KMPS, KING, KISW, KPLZ, KZOK, KCMS, and on AM, KVI, KIRO (though thats about to change) KIXI, KOMO, these are all stations that have been in their current state for at least 20 years. Those letters are associated with the channels they are on. But I understand in today's corporate "don't give a ship" environment nobody cares about anything. It's all good!
Well said Mack Daddy!
Even though the call letters KJET are down at some classic hits station on the coast, they will always be remembered as a Seattle modern rock station. It's just the legacy of those letters and it will never go away. No matter where they end up.
http://www.theacf.com/kjet/
No AM station has picked up KING yet. Because they're so associated with Seattle......
Other Seattle calls (KYYX, KHIT, etc) have been picked up by other stations, but they will never live down their Seattle history. That's just the nature of Puget Sound radio fans. If KISW changed their call letters tomorrow, the Seattle history will follow wherever they end up.......
And if Seattle call letters mean nothing, why do so many broadcasters around the state INSIST on them? KBSG was snatched up almost instantly, KTBI, KTAC, KRSC, KXRX and KGDN are in Eastern Washington. KNBQ is in Centralia for more than just a nice ring at the top of the hour. And KKOL and KKMO are just four letter versions of their original three letter calls. Even KTRW in Spokane calls itself "KTW" And KGHO is a heritage set of calls in the Hoquiam/Aberdeen area. KKNW has been on a daytime station in Mountlake Terrace and on 106.9 before winding up on 1150, etc, etc......
Even though the call letters KJET are down at some classic hits station on the coast, they will always be remembered as a Seattle modern rock station. It's just the legacy of those letters and it will never go away. No matter where they end up.
http://www.theacf.com/kjet/
No AM station has picked up KING yet. Because they're so associated with Seattle......
Other Seattle calls (KYYX, KHIT, etc) have been picked up by other stations, but they will never live down their Seattle history. That's just the nature of Puget Sound radio fans. If KISW changed their call letters tomorrow, the Seattle history will follow wherever they end up.......
And if Seattle call letters mean nothing, why do so many broadcasters around the state INSIST on them? KBSG was snatched up almost instantly, KTBI, KTAC, KRSC, KXRX and KGDN are in Eastern Washington. KNBQ is in Centralia for more than just a nice ring at the top of the hour. And KKOL and KKMO are just four letter versions of their original three letter calls. Even KTRW in Spokane calls itself "KTW" And KGHO is a heritage set of calls in the Hoquiam/Aberdeen area. KKNW has been on a daytime station in Mountlake Terrace and on 106.9 before winding up on 1150, etc, etc......
Bongwater said:
Excellent points, Bongwater.
I really miss KXRX. That was maybe my favorite Seattle area station in my lifetime, and I'm in my mid 40's. I knew those letters were in use again, aren't they in Tri-Cities now? I bet it's a station with a completely different format than Seattle 96 dot 5 was. I remember KYYX too. Remember KTNT? AM 1400 and FM 97.3, later became KNBQ, but I think the AM kept the KTNT call letters, but eventually they disappeared.
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