The issue, as I took up with Tim on a few occasions, it's about money in, not what your father-in-law can bankroll for you. He never listened. KCUV was a fine format if you had the means to take a loss. He did not, and still doesn't. How long will it be until his Jack dies? They've lasted longer than the re-birth of The Peak in 2000, but let's be honest. No numbers signify it's end in the coming months too. Tim is a good guy, but he needs to learn, if you can't play the game right it's best not to play at all...especially with people who have been out of touch from it for so long. All were talented people in their day, but you're a victim of your product when it lags behind with them aboard.