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ABQTom

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The KDWN lineup has been solid for a long time. It's getting old, with the same lineup. Their best shows are the morning news and Heidi Harris.

Heidi Harris is very conservative on national and moral issues, however she does a great fast paced, entertaining show. She is spontaneous, and talks about her personal life, which is very important for any talk show. I remember her talking about taking in the stray dog from MONTHS ago.

Listening to all three hours of Doyle can be particularly tedious. He talks too fast, and covers too many subjects per program. He doesn't take enough calls, some hours don't feature any calls. The show sounds scripted, Jerry is clearly just reading stories on a computer screen. It sounds more like a comical news program (i.e. Rachel Maddow) than a genuine TALK radio show.

Michael Savage very smart, but is terribly bitter, caustic, racist, and homophobic. And he keeps soliciting donations on the air. Combine all of the above, and that's just plain bad radio.

Perhaps KDWN could consider local talent at 4pm? Any suggestions?

I don't listen to Neal Boortz, so no comment.

As for Phil Hendrie, whenever I tune in, it's some complicated philosophical discussion and it's boring.

As I suggested below KDWN could consider going after KXNT for Premeire talent because of their ND daytime and DA nightime signal. Coast to Coast began on KDWN and that would bring better ratings for KDWN than Phil Hendrie. KDWN coulld also get Bob Brinker for weekends. Bob has mentioned living here, so he should have the strongest AM signal! :cool:
 
Jay F said:
A show you would drop, Michael Savage, consistently has the highest ratings on KDWN.

In this market, and on that station, I'm not surprised to hear that, and it's a tragedy, in my view.

Maybe Lou Dobbs' new radio show can compete with Michael Savage in 2008! (...they have many similar political viewpoints...)
 
Forgot - Sir Royal Masters should be dumped, too. He's a racist, bigoted, homophobic creep, just like his buddy Michael Savage. After 50 years, he doesn't even know how to conduct a radio program, cutting callers off and not letting them tell their life stories. Does he even get any ratings on KDWN?
 
I don't think Lou Dobbs could compete against Michael Savage on the radio. It's not just about ideology, it's also about entertainment. One of the reasons Savage does so well is that many listeners love when he really get's worked up, when he yells and sounds like he's crazy...they appreciate his raw emotion.

As for Roy Masters, KDWN does have ratings at night and Masters is on for more hours than anyone. Here is a surprising stat, you will appreciate this Tom because you know how poorly AM normally does in this market. In the most recent trend the top rated station 25-54 in the Beasley cluster from 7-Midnight is K-DAWN...they beat COYOTE, FRESH, KKLZ as well as some other FM stations.

I don't want to get into a Roy Masters debate, but I think you are unfair. For example you say he is a racist, yet I hear Roy take calls from all races and I can tell that he sincerely likes people and wants to help them. He understands human nature as well as anyone.
 
Jerry Doyle gets half of his material from the R-J newspaper-with out giving them credit. That's show prep. There is nothing wrong about it --except I thought talk radio and the internet were the "new media". I guess the new media is based on the old media. Drudge -another source for many talk shows -is made up of newspaper material for the most part.

Boortz is a turn off because he says "today is Wednesday" when it is Thursday....and since all the talk radio people beat the same topic to death the day before it is even more boring.

The whole line-up is boring to me..except for Savage who might say something that will get him fired, which makes it interesting. I think he wants to get fired in a way, because he is probably tired doing talk radio for 15 years.
 
JayF wrote:

"I don't think Lou Dobbs could compete against Michael Savage on the radio. It's not just about ideology, it's also about entertainment. One of the reasons Savage does so well is that many listeners love when he really get's worked up, when he yells and sounds like he's crazy...they appreciate his raw emotion."

Entertainment....Agree....and Savage tells stories about boating trips on the San Francisco Bay, he talks about bike rides and avoiding vicious dogs, he talks about herbal medicine (that's his Doctoral degree, I found his herb book at a used book store and it's incredibly detailed). Savage talks about his personal life a lot. However, Savage is viciously homophobic. I don't see how any PD could have the ethics to allow him on their station.

"As for Roy Masters, KDWN does have ratings at night and Masters is on for more hours than anyone. Here is a surprising stat, you will appreciate this Tom because you know how poorly AM normally does in this market. In the most recent trend the top rated station 25-54 in the Beasley cluster from 7-Midnight is K-DAWN...they beat COYOTE, FRESH, KKLZ as well as some other FM stations."

Thanks....interesting.....


"I don't want to get into a Roy Masters debate, but I think you are unfair. For example you say he is a racist, yet I hear Roy take calls from all races and I can tell that he sincerely likes people and wants to help them. He understands human nature as well as anyone."


I'm not starting a debate either but Roy is old fashioned - he hasn't kept up with the current research that being gay is biological. As for racism, it's the immigrant issue. Roy has talked about how "well, liberals incorrectly think we should be kind to these immigrants..." Of course we should be kind to them.
 
ABQTom said:
However, Savage is viciously homophobic. I don't see how any PD could have the ethics to allow him on their station.

Ok, let me get this straight.....A PD that broadcasts Savage is unethical because Savage is (or, more accurately..you perceive Savage to be) a homophobe?

Wow.....
 
wallawalla said:
ABQTom said:
However, Savage is viciously homophobic. I don't see how any PD could have the ethics to allow him on their station.

Ok, let me get this straight.....A PD that broadcasts Savage is unethical because Savage is (or, more accurately..you perceive Savage to be) a homophobe?

Wow.....

Yes the PD is unethical and not serving the public interest because the programming they select discriminates against immigrants and gays. That includes all 400 PD's who have Michael Savage on their programs. KDWN and KKOB are some of the worst offenders because after sunset their signals reach over 12 states, Canada, and Mexico. Note that I would say the same thing about hosts on the left who keep talking about whether or not Bush has a mental disorder or not (like Stephanie Miller), because of his unusual speech inflections. That is mocking and hateful and is not the way you determine if someone is mentally ill.


From NYC host Jay Diamond:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/5/27/2058/75491/786/339903

Jay writes:

"And remember, no radio personality puts himself in front of the microphone. It is always the station owner who is speaking, and it is always the station owner who is responsible for upholding the ethical barricades against the lure of money and political power. An owner who forswears his responsibility to present honest programming commits an offense against our democracy by distorting the airwaves with hidden agendas and hidden special pleadings."
 
You use an op-ed from the dailykos to reinforce your point about unethical PD's carrying Savage?

ROFLMAO!!!!!
 
wallawalla said:
You use an op-ed from the dailykos to reinforce your point about unethical PD's carrying Savage?

ROFLMAO!!!!!

For the record, I do not read ANY news blogs on the net. Seriously. I'm not kidding. I am 100 percent radio, TV, and newspapers combined...primarily talk radio because it is interactive with callers and guests, and therefore stimulates thought.

The ONLY time I read an article off a blog is if someone forwards something to me.

And, I do read radio engineering reports / sales material i.e. from Ibiquity and the FCC.

I don't even know who the Daily Kos is. However, you should know that Mr. Jay Diamond is a 20 year veteran NYC radio personality on WOR, WABC, WEVD, and also on WRKO in Boston. He is the current regular sub for Fox News Radio w/ Alan Colmes.

Therefore I don't think an article appearing in the Daily Kos, a blog that you apparently don't like, should discredit Mr. Diamond.


 
KXNT has a promo for the Levine show that says "not racist radio, just great radio, now back to the Great One Mark Levine." So, I guess their saying Savage is a racist?
 
mred said:
KXNT has a promo for the Levine show that says "not racist radio, just great radio, now back to the Great One Mark Levine." So, I guess their saying Savage is a racist?

Are you really saying that KXNT has an on-air promo "not racist radio, just great radio, now back to the Great One Mark Levine." Please clarify. That slogan is inappropriate and would not fly with any corporate CBS radio official.
 
I see the Las Vegas situation as analogous to talk radio in Florida in the 1980's. Most of the listeners to talk radio in Florida at that time were retirees from other states. The younger people -- mostly blue-collar workers in the service and tourist industries -- did not listen. Then the AM talkers developed caustic talkers that brought in a younger audience. LV is a blue-collar town and maybe it needs slugfest, blue-collar radio, not a cocoon where everybody agrees.
 
smedge2006 said:
I see the Las Vegas situation as analogous to talk radio in Florida in the 1980's. Most of the listeners to talk radio in Florida at that time were retirees from other states. The younger people -- mostly blue-collar workers in the service and tourist industries -- did not listen. Then the AM talkers developed caustic talkers that brought in a younger audience. LV is a blue-collar town and maybe it needs slugfest, blue-collar radio, not a cocoon where everybody agrees.


GREAT comments - this is why I highly suggest Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller for Vegas/Henderson on KDWN (see other post).

Ed brings the younger demographic and is pro-union, anti-Bush, has a great sense of humor, is a frequent TV appearance, talks about hunting/fishing a lot.

And, Ed is shallow when it comes to discussions of politics, so he can relate to working, blue collar people who have less education than some of the other "liberal" hosts on Area America like Thom Hartmann.

Promote Big Ed LIVE 9am-NOON on KDWN, followed by Heidi Harris.

-T
 
I'd run one of Keri Kassem's syndicated shows on weekends, I think she does one on motorcycles and martial arts???-just to bug the other station she was on. In retrospect, she did keep the clodhoppers in check over there. Now, they run amuk with their weird views, and their ratings are headed south.
 
mred said:
I'd run one of Keri Kassem's syndicated shows on weekends, I think she does one on motorcycles and martial arts???-just to bug the other station she was on. In retrospect, she did keep the clodhoppers in check over there. Now, they run amuk with their weird views, and their ratings are headed south.

Actually KXNT is doing pretty good in the morning. The only reason they went down book to book is because they lost a HUGE September which was probably a fluke.

Still KXNT is the top AM in the mornings. They actually beat KDWN 25-54 by over a 3X margin. What's surprising is that KDOX is on KDWNs heels in AM drive, in fact KDOX beat KDWN in December.
 
We will see about this fluke next book. I thought they were 17th? But I know they are not beating the "Mexican" spanish language stations. The talkers 250 rankings will be interesting this year as well. Kdox has Laura Ingram which beats the "dog crap on the freeway" news format of kdull. Heidi Harris vs. Tammy Bruce...I can see why Limpbaugh does so well.
 
Gee I did some research and some guy called Jay F. has a post called "Fall 07 Ratings" and it says in the 25 to 54 demo kxnt was #17. Oh well, I guess this person doesn't know what they were taking about.

Thanks for setting me straight. Kxnt is #1, WMD was found in Iraq, Mecha Mexicans started the Southern California forest fires, soy protein kills babies, Mit Romney will be the next president, Communists have taken over America, and exposure to bug spray doesn't negatively affect the human brain.
 
mred said:
Gee I did some research and some guy called Jay F. has a post called "Fall 07 Ratings" and it says in the 25 to 54 demo kxnt was #17. Oh well, I guess this person doesn't know what they were taking about.

Thanks for setting me straight. Kxnt is #1, WMD was found in Iraq, Mecha Mexicans started the Southern California forest fires, soy protein kills babies, Mit Romney will be the next president, Communists have taken over America, and exposure to bug spray doesn't negatively affect the human brain.

They are #17 overall 25-54..not in every day part. Mornings out perform the station as a whole. As I have explained to you before KXNT is the #1 talk station, not the #1 station overall.
 
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