Keith Olberman Hands Bill O'Reilly His Head

[KingDaevid]

> I'll make that one better, BOTH Keith Olbermann AND Bill
> O'Reilly worked at WCVB-TV. I don't think their tours of
> duty co-incided with each other. I recall O'Reilly was a
> co-anchor at 'CVB in the late 1980's before he "went
> Hollywood" with "Hard Copy". He's not what I call a very
> credible source for "news".

..."Hard Copy"?? Are you sure that wasn't "Inside Edition," where O'Reilly was a replacement for its disasterous original emcee, David Frost?... <P ID="signature">______________
King Daevid MacKenzie
WLSU Wisconsin Public Radio, La Crosse
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[dampier]

> If an Olberman makes a loud noise in the woods, and no one
> is around to watch it...does he make a sound?

This is such a false argument. A fact is still a fact regardless of the ratings. O'Reilly likes to use this argument himself. Instead of actually debating or informing his viewers whether or not the charges are true or false, he simply says nobody is watching the guy presenting them.

We're all talking about it in here - in fact it's probably going to show up on CNN Reliable Sources this weekend too, as well as other press.

O'Reilly is a blowhard clown on the best of days, but his nonsensical threats just make him a nutjob.

In fact, even admitting you are an O'Reilly viewer is rapidly becoming a social faux pas. You might as well say you love watching Jerry Springer.

 

[SquiggyFM]

> This is such a false argument.

How?

People watch Bill.
People do not watch Keith.
I posted numbers to prove it.

Bill is doing his job of making money for FNC alot more than Keith is making money for MSNBC.

Don't overanalyze my postings. If I want to say something, I'll say it. You should know that by now Phil.

 

[EWF]

If that is a judgment of total success than Abramhoff should be made head of FOX.


> > This is such a false argument.
>
> How?
>
> People watch Bill.
> People do not watch Keith.
> I posted numbers to prove it.
>
> Bill is doing his job of making money for FNC alot more than
> Keith is making money for MSNBC.
>
> Don't overanalyze my postings. If I want to say something,
> I'll say it. You should know that by now Phil.
>

 

[KMRichards]

> People watch Bill.
> People do not watch Keith.
> I posted numbers to prove it.

Would you happen to know what the statistical margin of error is for the numbers your posted?<P ID="signature">______________


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[KMRichards]

Ask and ye shall receive

> Wish I had a transcript.

Said transcript is now available on the MSNBC website:

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11144329/>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11144329/</a>

The segment under discussion here is about halfway down the page.<P ID="signature">______________


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[dampier]

> People watch Bill.
> People do not watch Keith.
> I posted numbers to prove it.

People watch Bill. People watch Keith. You posted numbers to prove THAT, not what you just said.

> Bill is doing his job of making money for FNC alot more than
> Keith is making money for MSNBC.

Who cares. That has nothing to do with the topic.

> Don't overanalyze my postings. If I want to say something,
> I'll say it. You should know that by now Phil.

Next time, have something to say instead of simply tapdancing away from it by playing a numbers game.

 

[dampier]

O'Reilly Flip Flop!

Are they doing drug screening at Fox News? You gotta wonder some days. Bill O'Reilly's comments that CNN was running a class operation apparently had a shorter shelf life than sushi because he just took pot shots at CNN & Christiane Amanpour:

On the February 2 edition of MSNBC's Countdown, host Keith Olbermann again awarded Fox News host Bill O'Reilly third-place honors during his nightly "Worst Person in the World" segment, this time in recognition of O'Reilly's January 31 assertion -- documented by Media Matters for America here -- that CNN chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour has a "rooting interest" in the Iraq war being a disaster.

Reading O'Reilly's quotes in an imitation of Ted Baxter, a pompous and knuckleheaded newscaster played by actor Ted Knight on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (MTM Productions, 1970-77), Olbermann stated:

OLBERMANN: Number three: it's Ted Baxter again, this time because CNN's Christiane Amanpour said: "Iraq has basically turned out to be a disaster." O'Reilly says of Ms. Amanpour: "You can draw by that that she has a rooting interest in it being a disaster." Well -- well, no, you can't, not if you use human logic. Besides which, he wouldn't really take a swipe at CNN after saying, quote, "CNN, for example, usually competes with class, not bitterness."


Bill O'Reilly: News Clown

 

[KMRichards]

> > People watch Bill.
> > People do not watch Keith.
> > I posted numbers to prove it.
>
> People watch Bill. People watch Keith. You posted numbers
> to prove THAT, not what you just said.

Another point: In the January 31 piece on Countdown (go read the transcript if you don't want to believe what I cut and paste here), Keith quoted Bill's employers as saying:

And as to MSNBC, since February of 2005, our respective ratings tell a very interesting story, in what was described today by News Corp as, quote, “the money demo.” COUNTDOWN‘s ratings are up 34 percent, but O‘Reilly‘s have shriveled by 21 percent.

So, as with the fallacy of quoting 12+ numbers to "prove" what radio station is doing best, quoting non-demo specific television numbers proves nothing.

It would appear that more people watch Keith than watch Bill in the demographic that Fox News and MSNBC are targeting for advertisers.

Thanks for playing. Don Pardo, tell the losing contestant what his consolation prizes are.<P ID="signature">______________


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