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KFNN Power Up

A shout out from the Buckeye Boyz to the Old Gringo and Professor Fybush:

Is waiting 45 minutes until a brokered program is over to reduce power a justifiable rule violation permitted by the FCC? Seems KFuNN waits until Moe Ansari's Market Wrap is over at 6pm before switching from 22kw to 100 watts. Local sunset this month is 5:15pm.

Nurse Jeff and I anxiously await your responses as we're both unqualified to read a simple chart and determine local sunrise and sunset times ourselves. We also have a similar question regarding raising power well in advance of local sunrise, but that will come later.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
A shout out from the Buckeye Boyz to the Old Gringo and Professor Fybush:

Doc, you might also want to run this by your visiting professor
at the Media Hut--the Buckeye city council dude.

He could have his students tackle it for extra credit during his
Sexting 101 class, which I hear is the hit of the fall semester. ;)
 
Dr. Akbar said:
Is waiting 45 minutes until a brokered program is over to reduce power a justifiable rule violation permitted by the FCC? Seems KFuNN waits until Moe Ansari's Market Wrap is over at 6pm before switching from 22kw to 100 watts. Local sunset this month is 5:15pm.

Nurse Jeff and I anxiously await your responses as we're both unqualified to read a simple chart and determine local sunrise and sunset times ourselves. We also have a similar question regarding raising power well in advance of local sunrise, but that will come later.

Well, this seems to be a variation of the time-honored "Special Football Autorization" by which many daytimers over the last 40 or 50 years stayed on well past sunset on Fridays to be able to broadcast the local High School football game in smaller markets all over America.

I was aware that the "SCA" was sometimes used (Special Colon Authorization) when sunset would have interrupted the full broadcast of a colon cleanser infomercial, but never heard of blanket permission to remain at high power for a financial show. Maybe this is the effect of the bad economy, causing get rich quick schemes to be protected from the laws of physics that say that night operation on high power will interfere with some station somewhere.

I hear the FCC has created a fleet of Gremlins equipped with radio direction finding gear to shut all of these stations down... oh, sorry, I misinterpreted the word "fleet." Actually, that is the brand, Fleet with a capital F, of posteriorly administered fluid used in the colon cleansing ad...
 
DavidEduardo said:
I hear the FCC has created a fleet of Gremlins equipped with radio direction finding gear to shut all of these stations down... oh, sorry, I misinterpreted the word "fleet." Actually, that is the brand, Fleet with a capital F, of posteriorly administered fluid used in the colon cleansing ad...

Now Nurse Jeff and I get it when someone sez radio fame is FLEET-ing :eek:

In the case of KFuNN, we don't need no stinkin' directional finding gear in our '76 Gremlin to determine whether they're operating on 22kw or 100 watts. That light is either on or off. While we do find your SCA (special colon authorization) theory interesting, the fact is the Big 15~Ten is probably using the Financially Authorized Radio Transaction provision (commonly known as F.A.R.T.) to thumb their nose at local sunset.
 
Sounds like 1510 could upgrade (given that KGA downgraded) or move its location closer to downtown.

Moe can also be heard at 9pm, btw.

Perhaps they could send more energy to the S and North, and Northwest ???

FW Bush - Are they obligated to protect 1480 in this case?

I like the idea of an FM Translator if there's room.
 
What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is a goin' on at KFuNN? Monday morning it sounded as if their power grabbing lamptimer failed to power up to 22kw at 7am (7:30am for just about everyone else). Tons of skywave and groundwave interference at 9am 'cause 100 watts just doesn't cover much of the Valley at 15~Ten! Then they went off the air altogether, even though diplex stablemate 9~Sixty was kickin' out the conservative jams. Hmmm....Nurse Jeff and I wonder if the KFuNNsters and Gumpdusky have joined forces - drifting lamptimers and massive dead air. What's next? Edd Byrnes pitching gold for our Media Hut IRA account ???
 
Dr. Akbar said:
What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is a goin' on at KFuNN? Monday morning it sounded as if their power grabbing lamptimer failed to power up to 22kw at 7am (7:30am for just about everyone else). Tons of skywave and groundwave interference at 9am 'cause 100 watts just doesn't cover much of the Valley at 15~Ten! Then they went off the air altogether, even though diplex stablemate 9~Sixty was kickin' out the conservative jams. Hmmm....Nurse Jeff and I wonder if the KFuNNsters and Gumpdusky have joined forces - drifting lamptimers and massive dead air. What's next? Edd Byrnes pitching gold for our Media Hut IRA account ???

Weather??? Transmitter Failure??? Brain Failure? Good question... Doc Maybe you can get the gremlin to drive up there and see if there is an engineer in the house??? :-X
 
Dr. Akbar said:
What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports is a goin' on at KFuNN? Monday morning it sounded as if their power grabbing lamptimer failed to power up to 22kw at 7am (7:30am for just about everyone else). Tons of skywave and groundwave interference at 9am 'cause 100 watts just doesn't cover much of the Valley at 15~Ten! Then they went off the air altogether, even though diplex stablemate 9~Sixty was kickin' out the conservative jams. Hmmm....Nurse Jeff and I wonder if the KFuNNsters and Gumpdusky have joined forces - drifting lamptimers and massive dead air. What's next? Edd Byrnes pitching gold for our Media Hut IRA account ???

Wow. The KFNNradiofan missed that one. Dr. - please, please, please inform me promptly of all further 1510 anomalies by way of email or PM. And that infamous high on the dial skywave interference could even last all day long at this time of the year.

With all their signal issues, I am continually aghast (speechless) over KFNN's failure to issue an application for an upgrade following the downgrade of KGA:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?stat...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9
 
KFNNradioFan said:
With all their signal issues, I am continually aghast (speechless) over KFNN's failure to issue an application for an upgrade following the downgrade of KGA:

We've run this through the Akbarizer 3000 computer a number of times and just don't see how KFuNN can shoe horn in more pow-pow-power at night that'll make any difference. With KSPA in Ontario jumping on a serious upgrade (thanks to KGA's downgrade) and that 25kw Denver (Littleton) station putting such a strong night signal into the southwest, it would be good money chasing a bad idea and a ton 'o towers! Anywho...KFuNN's programming is ideally suited to 6am - 6pm coverage hours. Beyond 6pm, there just isn't much they can do to generate revenue.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
KFNNradioFan said:
With all their signal issues, I am continually aghast (speechless) over KFNN's failure to issue an application for an upgrade following the downgrade of KGA:

We've run this through the Akbarizer 3000 computer a number of times and just don't see how KFuNN can shoe horn in more pow-pow-power at night that'll make any difference. With KSPA in Ontario jumping on a serious upgrade (thanks to KGA's downgrade) and that 25kw Denver (Littleton) station putting such a strong night signal into the southwest, it would be good money chasing a bad idea and a ton 'o towers! Anywho...KFuNN's programming is ideally suited to 6am - 6pm coverage hours. Beyond 6pm, there just isn't much they can do to generate revenue.

:'( (crying)

Well, that's too bad. How about an FM Translator? Today they had two power downs and/or pattern changes, a massive one at 6pm, and a subtle one at 630pm during Gary's show! This is the 2nd time I noticed this. The signal strength meter went from a 5 down to a 3 at 630pm (MAX is 10).

How about 50kW day, 22.5kW critical hours?
 
KFNNradioFan said:
How about an FM Translator?

How 'bout a large bullhorn so they can be heard in their COL at night?

Today they had two power downs and/or pattern changes, a massive one at 6pm, and a subtle one at 630pm during Gary's show! This is the 2nd time I noticed this. The signal strength meter went from a 5 down to a 3 at 630pm (MAX is 10).

December local sunset is 5:15pm...not 6pm as the KFuNNsters have been doing it since 12/01. One of these days they're gonna get caught!

How about 50kW day, 22.5kW critical hours?

How about 100kw fulltime? Just move from Mesa to Meh-Hee-Co and let 'er rip ;D
 
Sounds like KFNN is experiencing some kind of trouble that could be very expensive in more ways than one.

Watch for possibly a new remote control, phasor repair or a complete transmitter swap.. if it's going down in steps means it's being adjusted manually. Soon they will go <POOF!> for a day or 2.
 
Dr. Akbar said:
How about 100kw fulltime? Just move from Mesa to Meh-Hee-Co and let 'er rip ;D

Wouldn't you also need a big reverb and some Wolfman Jack tapes to go with that?

X-Rock 80 Forever!
 
johndavis said:
Dr. Akbar said:
How about 100kw fulltime? Just move from Mesa to Meh-Hee-Co and let 'er rip ;D

Wouldn't you also need a big reverb and some Wolfman Jack tapes to go with that?

X-Rock 80 Forever!

...plus some baby chicks and a prayer cloth! XEFNN la super Quince Diez!
 
The Beave said:
Sounds like KFNN is experiencing some kind of trouble that could be very expensive in more ways than one.

Watch for possibly a new remote control, phasor repair or a complete transmitter swap.. if it's going down in steps means it's being adjusted manually. Soon they will go <POOF!> for a day or 2.

They come up in steps, too - at 6am, up from their "supposed" licensed "nightime operations" up to an "intermediate" phase ...

which as of this writing, is in operation at Midnight w/ Bruce Williams sounding great ...
 
KFNNradioFan said:
They come up in steps, too - at 6am, up from their "supposed" licensed "nightime operations" up to an "intermediate" phase ...
which as of this writing, is in operation at Midnight w/ Bruce Williams sounding great ...

From my engineering experience ( I once did studio work there as well as some in house engineering)
Transmitters usually run best (or most efficient) before going terminally ill. The calm before the storm if you will.
When I mean in steps... The present model transmitter KFNN has, utilizes 6 power capabilities 2 day mode 4 night modes and has to be adjusted every month. The lowest is 40 watts, the highest is 25kw and the 4 in between.
Similar to the B.E. MX4 Transmitter that I worked on at WZFG. Never the less I bet there is some work going on up there, if not repairs.
 
The Beave said:
KFNNradioFan said:
They come up in steps, too - at 6am, up from their "supposed" licensed "nightime operations" up to an "intermediate" phase ...
which as of this writing, is in operation at Midnight w/ Bruce Williams sounding great ...

From my engineering experience ( I once did studio work there as well as some in house engineering)
Transmitters usually run best (or most efficient) before going terminally ill. The calm before the storm if you will.
When I mean in steps... The present model transmitter KFNN has, utilizes 6 power capabilities 2 day mode 4 night modes and has to be adjusted every month. The lowest is 40 watts, the highest is 25kw and the 4 in between.
Similar to the B.E. MX4 Transmitter that I worked on at WZFG. Never the less I bet there is some work going on up there, if not repairs.

I wasn't referring to the engineering. Here's what I meant:

Let's put it this way. On my signal strength meter, 1510 KFNN reads the following:

From 630p MST to 6A MST - 3 units

6A-Sunrise MST - 5 units

Sunrise MST - Sunset MST - 6pm MST (MAX READING 10 UNITS+ bandwidth about 40kHz, strongest AM station)

6pm MST - 630p MST - 5 units

so in other words they're giving Business for Breakfast and Investors Edge a bit more power, and Moe Ansari FULL power (oops! ???)

*readings valid Dec 2009
 
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