KGOL applies to diplex with KGOW

[Mediafrog+]

KGOL 1180 has submitted an engineering STA application to diplex on one of the KGOW 1560 night site towers using 2kw day and 100 watts night. KGOL also states it will be seeking a permanent facility diplexing with KGOW.

Thought occurred to me: Could KGOL be the new owner for KGOW, with one signal targeting Vietnamese speakers and the othe the South Asian community?

Check out the attachments on the application: Draft Copy « Licensing and Management System « FCC

 

[bturner1]

I seriously doubt that is the case. David Gow likely said that was a good deal for him and if there is another owner in the future.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

KGOL 1180 has submitted an engineering STA application to diplex on one of the KGOW 1560 night site towers using 2kw day and 100 watts night. KGOL also states it will be seeking a permanent facility diplexing with KGOW.

Thought occurred to me: Could KGOL be the new owner for KGOW, with one signal targeting Vietnamese speakers and the othe the South Asian community?

Check out the attachments on the application: Draft Copy « Licensing and Management System « FCC

Should be difficult covering Humble with 2kW from west of JV, and will take an act of God to do so with 100 watts at night. I don't recall a full power AM or FM with Jersey Village as the COL. That might just expedite the grant, given the town would receive its first licensed aural service.

 

[Mediafrog+]

I seriously doubt that is the case. David Gow likely said that was a good deal for him and if there is another owner in the future.

If Viet Media buys KGOW the diplex deal would bring in money to help pay for the purchase. Anyone know what a diplex arrangement costs for the “guest” station? For example, how much is Audacy paying Salem to diplex KILT with KNTH? And is it cheaper than leasing an FM-HD subchannel as the originating station for a translator?

There is something going on with the likely sale of KGOW, but let’s keep that on the Gow thread.

Should be difficult covering Humble with 2kW from west of JV, and will take an act of God to do so with 100 watts at night. I don't recall a full power AM or FM with Jersey Village as the COL. That might just expedite the grant, given the town would receive its first licensed aural service.

Change of COL is entirely possible. Should note that the KGOW night site is ~15 miles west of Jersey Village.

That 100 watt night signal will sure get buried by all the Radio Rebelde synchros in Cuba that are battling Radio Marti on 1180.

There are no engineering exhibits with this application, and we have no idea what any permanent facility would entail, so still a long way off from any resolution of the KGOL situation. Looks like they have given up on their original idea of a new facility in NE Harris County.

 

[Kent]

Should be difficult covering Humble with 2kW from west of JV, and will take an act of God to do so with 100 watts at night. I don't recall a full power AM or FM with Jersey Village as the COL. That might just expedite the grant, given the town would receive its first licensed aural service.

100 watts at night will make it a Class D station. Class D's don't have to cover their COL's at night.

The daytime signal will be the real question. It also begs the question of whether it's even worth it. Going from a 50,000 watt daytime signal to a 2,000 watt one that won't cover the metro doesn't seem worth the effort to me. Granted, it's not my station and not my money, but I'd have to think, even with the towers already existing and no new construction being required, the expense of moving the station and operating it with those parameters would be a money pit.

 

[Mediafrog+]

The daytime signal will be the real question. It also begs the question of whether it's even worth it. Going from a 50,000 watt daytime signal to a 2,000 watt one that won't cover the metro doesn't seem worth the effort to me. Granted, it's not my station and not my money, but I'd have to think, even with the towers already existing and no new construction being required, the expense of moving the station and operating it with those parameters would be a money pit.

It does seem like a great effort for a station whose only purpose is to originate a translator. All four South Asian targeted stations in Houston are available on FM. The 1180 outlet would probably be just as irrelevant for Hum Radio as 1460 is for Sangeet.

The KGOW night site aims right at the heavily Asian parts of the metro area, so curious if that could also be engineered for an eventual permanent signal for 1180 aiming the same way, assuming a change in COL. We can only guess until a final proposal is submitted to the FCC.

 

[dade]

I love reading all this stuff. LOL I have been working on this for months and David Gow told me to go for it. I am also the one that took the old 1180 KGOL down to the ground for Entravision and yes all the old KGOL Equipment is still here in storage. Kurt Gorman and I also rebuilt KGOL again in the old location in 2011 for Entravision it was falling to the ground I will tell you all what is going on and this project will be fun. Kurt Gorman is also involved and Bert Goldman I called them both a while back. They built the Night site with me for KGOW 1560 not you know who. Kurt Gorman Phasetek Inc. | Our Staff is flying back into town today and is over making final adjustments on the 1070 and 610 site and we will go back to 1560 this week. We were there 3 weeks ago after many years looking around at stuff. Want pictures when we get started I will send so you want have to guess what we are doing. Yes is the answer there will be a real construction permit filed there for day and night soon. I told the owners of KGOL they better hurry up time was running out. Have a good one everyone. Dade Log into Facebook
Oh the formats yes The same for KGOL Hum FM .

 

[Mediafrog+]

I love reading all this stuff. LOL I have been working on this for months and David Gow told me to go for it.

Presumably you are aware that there is a STRONG possibility that KGOW is about to be sold, along with KFNC?

They built the Night site with me for KGOW 1560 not you know who. Kurt Gorman Phasetek Inc. | Our Staff is flying back into town today and is over making final adjustments on the 1070 and 610 site and we will go back to 1560 this week.

Anyone going to check the 1560 pattern at the night site? Has been way out of whack lately, coming in at almost local strength at night in DFW...should be a very tight lobe to the SE, with virtually nothing in other directions.

 

[HTX]

Anyone going to check the 1560 pattern at the night site? Has been way out of whack lately, coming in at almost local strength at night in DFW...should be a very tight lobe to the SE, with virtually nothing in other directions.

What about @SomeRadioGuy picking up 1560 in Alaska?

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

What about @SomeRadioGuy picking up 1560 in Alaska?

Been checking, ill report back if i hear it again

 

[Deleted member 108832]

Presumably you are aware that there is a STRONG possibility that KGOW is about to be sold, along with KFNC?

Anyone going to check the 1560 pattern at the night site? Has been way out of whack lately, coming in at almost local strength at night in DFW...should be a very tight lobe to the SE, with virtually nothing in other directions.

I haven't checked it in awhile, but KGOW has been a regular catch in Tyler for years. Paul Wilson found out real quick that he should have accepted the offer to move elsewhere prior to KILE firing up the 50kW rig in 2007. Rendered then KEGG completely useless outside of the little town of Daingerfield, northeast of here in Morris County. Gone. KGOW swallowed the little 1,000 watter nearly whole. It doesn't have near the same strength now, but I hear it day and night, from fair reception to strong. It's always there. It and KJOZ are the most reliable AMs from the Houston area.

 

[dade]

Mean dog If you know who this buyer is please let us know. I will Text David so he can say praise Jesus. I know you all have seen listings on the internet for the stations. Well for you information I posted the first one in 2019 and I think it is still there and people are finding it now. If it has been sold I hope he is smart enough and I hope he takes the money and runs like hell . As a matter of fact I know of 8 radio stations around east and south east and I mean big fm stations for sale all over the place and have been for over 4 years and there has not been one offer on them. That for sure should tell you all about how radio broadcasting is going these days., Not worth a flip. Call me sometime and if you ever want to go out to any of these sites trust me no one really cars.

 

[HTX]

trust me no one really cars.

I beg to differ.

 

[101.9 La Kalle]

No one really cars.

I car about this!

 

[Mediafrog+]

Mean dog If you know who this buyer is please let us know. I will Text David so he can say praise Jesus. I know you all have seen listings on the internet for the stations. Well for you information I posted the first one in 2019 and I think it is still there and people are finding it now.

The listing with Griffin Media Brokers is what we’ve been talking about here. Only went up about six weeks ago.

If it has been sold I hope he is smart enough and I hope he takes the money and runs like hell . As a matter of fact I know of 8 radio stations around east and south east and I mean big fm stations for sale all over the place and have been for over 4 years and there has not been one offer on them. That for sure should tell you all about how radio broadcasting is going these days., Not worth a flip.

Someone will still want KFNC. Might be for a paltry price, but warts and all, it’s still a signal in market #6. Most likely to go to a religious operator, and the deal will include the 92.5 translator.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

Someone will still want KFNC.

Yep, there's a sucker born every minute. Gow got it for, what, $5M? I can't imagine it being let go for less than 7 figures, but maybe he gets half of that initial purchase price back. Again, there's likely someone out there that thinks they've got the answer for what new and innovative format they can program that is going to set the market(s) on fire.

Might be for a paltry price, but warts and all, it’s still a signal in market #6. Most likely to go to a religious operator, and the deal will include the 92.5 translator.

Keep one thing in mind, Frog. KFNC is a full-power 100kW Class C with a monster of a signal. I know you guys in the western portions of Harris County have a hard time with reception, but 97.5 covers a ton of actual real estate, all the way east to Lake Charles. I agree with religious of some sort being the outcome for the facility, but I'm completely in disagreement that K223CW will be sold in tandem. KFNC can easily stand on its own, and doesn't need the Franco translator to make an honest living with Christian programming under different ownership. KGOW needs all the help it can get, and that still may not be enough. I can't imagine any reason for "Gow Translators" to buy K223CW, other than to file a change in primary to KGOW once they find a guppy tugging on Gow's line, and then sell the both of them to Viet Radio, or whoever has the cash to pony up, and finally getting rid of that anchor that's been weighing his group down for the last nearly 20 years.

 

[Astros2023]

Yep, there's a sucker born every minute. Gow got it for, what, $5M? I can't imagine it being let go for less than 7 figures, but maybe he gets half of that initial purchase price back. Again, there's likely someone out there that thinks they've got the answer for what new and innovative format they can program that is going to set the market(s) on fire.

Keep one thing in mind, Frog. KFNC is a full-power 100kW Class C with a monster of a signal. I know you guys in the western portions of Harris County have a hard time with reception, but 97.5 covers a ton of actual real estate, all the way east to Lake Charles. I agree with religious of some sort being the outcome for the facility, but I'm completely in disagreement that K223CW will be sold in tandem. KFNC can easily stand on its own, and doesn't need the Franco translator to make an honest living with Christian programming under different ownership. KGOW needs all the help it can get, and that still may not be enough. I can't imagine any reason for "Gow Translators" to buy K223CW, other than to file a change in primary to KGOW once they find a guppy tugging on Gow's line, and then sell the both of them to Viet Radio, or whoever has the cash to pony up, and finally getting rid of that anchor that's been weighing his group down for the last nearly 20 years.

All points are valid. I believe the primary concern is identifying the individual or entity capable of providing the necessary funds to acquire all assets for either 7.5 million or 3-5 million just for kfnc. Securing business funding for media acquisition can be quite challenging, particularly for entities other than religious organizations. On a good day KFNC is heard in Richmond/fulshear area very strong when not getting killed by KFTX.

 

[Mediafrog+]

Yep, there's a sucker born every minute. Gow got it for, what, $5M? I can't imagine it being let go for less than 7 figures, but maybe he gets half of that initial purchase price back.

The stick value of 97.5 is likely less than the $3M that the better 97.1 signal sold for. I would be very surprised if Gow got $5M, but with religious broadcasters throwing money around, who knows.

Again, there's likely someone out there that thinks they've got the answer for what new and innovative format they can program that is going to set the market(s) on fire.

I can’t imagine what ”new and innovative” format would work on 97.5. Rhythmic CHR KRWP and the first incarnation of Album Rock KIOL were both failures, as was the newstalk format that spawned the KFNC call.

Keep one thing in mind, Frog. KFNC is a full-power 100kW Class C with a monster of a signal. I know you guys in the western portions of Harris County have a hard time with reception, but 97.5 covers a ton of actual real estate, all the way east to Lake Charles.

Unfortunately almost half the 97.5 signal is wasted over water, and it has all kinds of issues in the western half of the target Houston market, due to distance (it is the easternmost rimshot) as well as heavy tropo interference from KFTX and KWTX. The westernmost parts of the Houston contiguous urban sprawl are around 85-90 miles from the KFNC stick.

I agree with religious of some sort being the outcome for the facility, but I'm completely in disagreement that K223CW will be sold in tandem. KFNC can easily stand on its own, and doesn't need the Franco translator to make an honest living with Christian programming under different ownership.

Spanish language religion might work on 97.5 as the eastern half of the market is heavily Hispanic.

KGOW needs all the help it can get, and that still may not be enough. I can't imagine any reason for "Gow Translators" to buy K223CW, other than to file a change in primary to KGOW once they find a guppy tugging on Gow's line, and then sell the both of them to Viet Radio,

The KGOW night signal, which is currently running 24/7, is aimed right at the part of the market where Vietnamese speakers are concentrated. If Viet Media buys 1560, they should abandon the licensed day site, and apply for permanent full time operation at the night site. They might be able to increase day power a bit, perhaps to 25kw, though KTXZ is only 110 miles to the west.

The two 92.5 translators Gow is buying would also do well for the Vietnamese demographic areas. Which station they wind up with might depend on what sort of programming the new 97.5 owner wants to do, and where their target demos are living.

 

[Ryan Williams]

Unfortunately almost half the 97.5 signal is wasted over water, and it has all kinds of issues in the western half of the target Houston market, due to distance (it is the easternmost rimshot) as well as heavy tropo interference from KFTX and KWTX. The westernmost parts of the Houston contiguous urban sprawl are around 85-90 miles from the KFNC stick.

Spanish language religion might work on 97.5 as the eastern half of the market is heavily Hispanic.

The most viable format for the coverage 97.5 provides is something in the spanish language.

 

[Astros2023]

Is kgol even on the air?