Still baffling they wouldn't try and make a little back by selling the license on the way out.
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KGRG goes silent
- Thread starter valvashon
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The new GM for the stations is probably pissed he's going to be out the door.
I say buy the license, KGRG had reach even in downtown Seattle without much interference, not bad for an old 250 watt blowtorch. I would've tried to boost the power or when they had KBTC's signal buy that off since it had bigger reach. Bob Rivers was also a contributing part of KGRG, it's sad that he's now gone. Dammit, this is truly an era ending.
As for jounalism itself, I expect journalism to be forced more underground due to current events. That's all I'm going to say about that.
I say buy the license, KGRG had reach even in downtown Seattle without much interference, not bad for an old 250 watt blowtorch. I would've tried to boost the power or when they had KBTC's signal buy that off since it had bigger reach. Bob Rivers was also a contributing part of KGRG, it's sad that he's now gone. Dammit, this is truly an era ending.
As for jounalism itself, I expect journalism to be forced more underground due to current events. That's all I'm going to say about that.
I just saw that too. 16 watts from a 4 bay antenna on the tower on the school property, site of the original license in 1982. The old antenna and transmission line was left in place so it was probably pretty easy to fire it up again. Contour is completely within the contour of the 250 watt license from the American Tower site.
I did send an email to KEXP and received a reply that they weren't interested in picking this one up. Should I contact KSER? Anything but another religious station...
KASB? KNHC? WSU for KVTI?
I'd love to see KMGP (Space 101.1) on it. Their programming on that LP far outpaces some of what I hear on full power signals.
From a community-focused FM standpoint, I still think of the KGRG license as being a pretty difficult sell. Coverage is centered around a population that doesn’t strike me as particularly interested in something niche (where they’d be willing to support it through donations or underwriting). The area is definitely more blue collar, so this isn’t a situation where you could target a wealthy population specifically.
Coverage is pretty good in the Kent valley, but the overall topography of the Kent Valley reduces the coverage quite a bit. Nevertheless, I agree that it’s not a bad signal. I’m not an engineer (and can’t comment on the logistics of moving it), but I personally see an advantage in having the transmitter located on the west side of Kent Valley (at least). The city of license is still covered, while giving you better coverage of some of the other surrounding communities (which may be more lucrative).
Any transmitter site in the valley itself isn’t really going to be that effective.
Coverage is pretty good in the Kent valley, but the overall topography of the Kent Valley reduces the coverage quite a bit. Nevertheless, I agree that it’s not a bad signal. I’m not an engineer (and can’t comment on the logistics of moving it), but I personally see an advantage in having the transmitter located on the west side of Kent Valley (at least). The city of license is still covered, while giving you better coverage of some of the other surrounding communities (which may be more lucrative).
Any transmitter site in the valley itself isn’t really going to be that effective.
K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Since KGRG-FM is in the reserved band as a non-commercial, the contour of the translator is not a factor.
I wasn't referring to the translator K207AP, which remains licensed and silent. I was referring to the contour of the main KGRG signal on 89.9 MHz. They refrence it in the Engineering STA Request:
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K.M. Richards
Program Director, The Eighties Channel™
Thanks for clarifying. These things get very easily confused, and once I presumed you were talking about the translator it never occurred to me to look at the STA.
So, I happen to be the current president for the KSER/KXIR Foundation board of directors, and we've got enough on our plate already. We're about to publicly name a new GM, as Tom Clendening recently retired from that role after 13 years at the helm. We've got lots of work to do to shore up awareness of our station and revenue from donations, grants, etc., in what's become an uncertain economic time, along with some other priorities that have been on the back burner in recent years. Picking up a signal down in south King County probably wouldn't be included in those priorities as we try to strengthen our presence up here in Snohomish and Island counties.
As a radio hobbyist in my free time, I'm happy to see KGRG back on the air, but it's probably not something KSER can handle right now.
Eric Fetters-Walp
Lake Stevens, Washington
I get that KGRG is "out of market" for a Snohomish County based opertation but I just want to keep it out of the hands of Air 1 or whatever. It's probably a better fit for the NWPR "NPR News" service if it can be put back on the American Tower site where it was. 250 watts, set it to mono to keep the multipath down and away you go.
I think KXIR and KSER are broadcasting with higher power than they are supposed to. KXIR actually interferes with KGRG in some areas and I was picking up KSER crystal clear in Buckley. No way should be able to pick up both stations way in NE Pierce County and KXIR is causing interference with KGRG in Buckley also.
16 watts ERP?
I mean, a 40 year old antenna probably has some inefficiencies in it, but my guess is if they’re 16 watts ERP, that’s probably 5 watts out the transmitter (which is probably the lowest it can go).
I suppose it keeps the license active though…
I mean, a 40 year old antenna probably has some inefficiencies in it, but my guess is if they’re 16 watts ERP, that’s probably 5 watts out the transmitter (which is probably the lowest it can go).
I suppose it keeps the license active though…
Not sure right now is a great time to judge signals. Lots of atmospheric ducting due to nice warm days with little air movement; I have been picking up all kinds of signals that "should not be there" the last few days. I doubt very much that KXIR and KSER are out of spec.
I was able to receive it in Tacoma on my SDR
Too weak to get HD or RDS if they even have any of those right now but it is completely fine for what it is
I sadly noticed they went off the air on the 15th. I drove all the way to Auburn to get a better signal to find it out it was completely off the air. I have no clue if they are currently on the air right now.
Since i sent my recording, I didn't want to double post.
Since i sent my recording, I didn't want to double post.
It seems strange to fire up their transmitter at Green River College just to shut it down for good. Perhaps they were testing it just to see if it was functional. If the license is for sale, it definitely won’t include the transmission site at the school itself.
Nevertheless, if the administrators who handle the budget don’t want to continue operating KGRG, it’s probably done. I was thinking the other day about how much money they must have spent on the leased transmitter space (when they could have operated from the school itself).