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Kimmel returns Tuesday

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michael hagerty said:
Dopey move. Whatever their motivation, they had an audience that watched Kimmel that's been pissed off for most of a week. Now ABC's putting the show back on and those folks are being told "no" by their local affiliate.

There aren't enough happy MAGA folk to make up for what Sinclair's gonna lose in this deal. Long-term, they may get an easier go with the Trump administration, but they have TV stations to run and you can count on the Kimmel fans watching the local news on another channel.
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I wondered what is the largest market in which Sinclair has the ABC affiliate. Finally, a use for AI (Google in this case):

What's the largest market in which Sinclair has an ABC affiliate?
The largest market in which Sinclair has an ABC affiliate is Washington, D.C., with its station WJLA-TV.
According to the 2024–25 Nielsen rankings, the Washington, D.C. market is the eighth-largest Designated Market Area (DMA) in the United States.

(I did check another source just to make sure this was correct.)

So...Washington. That might explain a few more things.

Someone should alert Sinclair that this is 2025, not 1975: if a viewer wants to see Jimmy Kimmel's show, they can always stream. Corporate pouts don't work that well any more.
 
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radiofan2023 said:
Thanks for the info. I meant any local advertisers that run spots on Sinclair stations during what was supposed to be Kimmel’s show.
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Most likely there weren't any at most of Sinclair's stations. Late night TV isn't that different from late-night radio: Very few viewers. On an average, only 5% of TV sets are in use after midnight. So the spots will tend to be per-inquiry and bonus spots, some run-of-show ads (those which didn't pay for a specific time) and tons of promos for the Live Doppler 9000 Weather Team.

Take for example WGXA in Macon, Georgia, market #119. The audience for that particular show in that particular market is probably a couple thousand, most of whom are outside the sales demos, which is a small enough audience that it is hard to sell on its own.

As Michael & Mark mention, Sinclair does have some larger market stations, where there might be ads placed specifically for Kimmel's time slot. It's not clear what would happen to those ad placements. They probably should offer advertisers refunds/discounts, but who knows what they'll actually do.
 
Mark Roberts said:
Someone should alert Sinclair that this is 2025, not 1975: if a viewer wants to see Jimmy Kimmel's show, they can always stream. Corporate pouts don't work that well any more.
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Does ABC allow the full program to be streamed to viewers who do NOT have a Disney+ account? Hundreds of thousands have dumped the Mouse networks over this, but, now what for those who did this in those markets that Sinclair operates in?

Let Sinclair go thru this exercise in futility tomorrow, then watch the ABC lawyers spring into action against Sinclair for violating their contract.

Hey...now *that* might be good viewing. All these court battles; more cameras in the courtrooms, anyone?
 
kwthom said:
Does ABC allow the full program to be streamed to viewers who do NOT have a Disney+ account? Hundreds of thousands have dumped the Mouse networks over this, but, now what for those who did this in those markets that Sinclair operates in?

Let Sinclair go thru this exercise in futility tomorrow, then watch the ABC lawyers spring into action against Sinclair for violating their contract.

Hey...now *that* might be good viewing. All these court battles; more cameras in the courtrooms, anyone?
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"M-I-C.....























See ya in court, suckers!


K-E-Y....."
 
kwthom said:
Does ABC allow the full program to be streamed to viewers who do NOT have a Disney+ account? Hundreds of thousands have dumped the Mouse networks over this, but, now what for those who did this in those markets that Sinclair operates in?

Let Sinclair go thru this exercise in futility tomorrow, then watch the ABC lawyers spring into action against Sinclair for violating their contract.

Hey...now *that* might be good viewing. All these court battles; more cameras in the courtrooms, anyone?
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The full episodes of Jimmy Kimmel Live, broken into segments, are usually up on the show's YouTube channel in a few hours (I believe after it has aired in Hawaii).
 
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Y2kTheNewOldies said:
Its a wait and see negotiations Disney has to do with affiliation contracts Sinclair has in some parts of the US especially Washington DC since their ABC affiliate WJLA is affected by this. We shall wait if Sinclair change their minds on this. Also Chairman Carr has to respond to doing the same stuff over the other talk show "The View" over the same things.
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ABC needs Sinclair more than Sinclair needs ABC. If they pull ABC off of a primary digital channel (.1) then it is forced to a lower level DT channel (.2 and lower) of a station that has another network affiliation. Like the ABC Miami situation. There's more money in local news and programming than network programming.
 
desertaire said:
Moving affiliates

ABC needs Sinclair more than Sinclair needs ABC. If they pull ABC off of a primary digital channel (.1) then it is forced to a lower level DT channel (.2 and lower) of a station that has another network affiliation. Like the ABC Miami situation. There's more money in local news and programming than network programming.
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The ABC Miami situation is a unique case in one market.
 
desertaire said:
Kimmel is a distant 3rd in ratings.
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If you factor out Gutfeld! which airs 95 minutes earlier, no---Kimmel is second (these are Q2 2025 numbers---with the persons being the average nightly viewership):

1. Late Show with Stephen Colbert (CBS): 2.42 million (airs at 11:35 p.m. Eastern/10:35 p.m. Central)
2. Jimmy Kimmel Live (ABC): 1.77 million (11:35 Eastern/10:35 Central)
3. Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon (NBC): 1.19 million (11:35/10:35)


And he's number one in the 18-49 demo among the 11:35 pm shows:

1. Jimmy Kimmel Live (ABC): 220,000
2. Late Show with Stephen Colbert (CBS): 219,000
3. Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon (NBC): 157,000
 
desertaire said:
Moving affiliates

ABC needs Sinclair more than Sinclair needs ABC. If they pull ABC off of a primary digital channel (.1) then it is forced to a lower level DT channel (.2 and lower) of a station that has another network affiliation. Like the ABC Miami situation. There's more money in local news and programming than network programming.
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The way these things usually work is to poach a CBS or NBC affiliate in the market and get them to switch. If you can do deals with chains that also solve your Sinclair problem in other markets, that's just icing on the cake.
 
michael hagerty said:
The way these things usually work is to poach a CBS or NBC affiliate in the market and get them to switch. If you can do deals with chains that also solve your Sinclair problem in other markets, that's just icing on the cake.
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Easy to do back in the days when group ownership was more limited. These days, it's much harder to poach a single station when everyone is tied up in massive group-wide affiliation deals.
 
fybush said:
Easy to do back in the days when group ownership was more limited. These days, it's much harder to poach a single station when everyone is tied up in massive group-wide affiliation deals.
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Fair. Still, I think it's unlikely that ABC would have to settle for digital subchannels. Frankly, given Sinclair's last-minute move of the Charlie Kirk special to YouTube and Carr's hasty retreat on what "the hard way means", I think Sinclair will fold and clear Jimmy in a week or two.
 
kwthom said:
Does ABC allow the full program to be streamed to viewers who do NOT have a Disney+ account? Hundreds of thousands have dumped the Mouse networks over this, but, now what for those who did this in those markets that Sinclair operates in?
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I believe you can watch on abc.com but i don’t think it’s posted until after the show airs live.
 
Larry said:
I believe you can watch on abc.com but i don’t think it’s posted until after the show airs live.
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Confirmed, but only the monologue and the two guest interviews, in three separate clips.

ABC still has last Tuesday's up on the Jimmy Kimmel Live! page:
abc.com

Watch Jimmy Kimmel Live! TV Show - ABC.com

Watch the official Jimmy Kimmel Live! online at ABC.com. Get exclusive videos, blogs, photos, cast bios, free episodes
abc.com abc.com
 
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