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KIOL needs a new morning show

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Emarti

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I think that KIOL needs a new morning show. I've been involved in radio for many years and I don't think those 2 guys that do the W&J show are entertaining and not a good fit for any rock station. There are a number of reasons that go beyond their low ratings for saying that. Before I give my reasons for saying that W&J are a bad morning show, I need to say that I only listen to them because it is my job to listen to the spots and promos that their station airs.From what I've heard and on and off the air and from my own experience I can say that I don't think these guys understand the meaning of "team players."They constantly take all of their issues with the station and their employees to the airwaves and don't seem to cut anybody any slack. When they first arrive at a new station (because they always have a major falling out with their previous station), very soon they begin griping on the air about engineering problems, such as cd players or the night guy that pushes all the wrong buttons during his shift. Walton always runs the board for their show, but always blames some night guy for leaving buttons and switches on the board in the wrong position for their show. After awhile, they start talking bad about sales and promotions people and their own station management on the air. Sales seem to walk on eggshells around them because they can be very harsh in their criticism for any idea. W&J don't seem to get along and don't seem to want to interact with any other air talent at the station they work for. They don't do free appearances, they command high salaries and huge remote talent fees and expect the red carpet royal treatment. They do not answer to any program director and take differences with station management to their lawyers. Any station that would want to pick up the W&J show should expect to deal with lawyers, and not just during negotiations, but throughout their tenure, it's almost their trademark.They seem to use their live spot clients and then turn on them after awhile. I believe that Johnson "lost" his Stubbs Harley motorcycle while at KLOL, then after they were tired of talking about it on the air and dealing with it, their comments seemed to turn very negative towards Stubbs, when they were the ones out of a new customized Harley. Walton also wrecked a Harley from a Louisiana dealership a few years ago in a New Orleans burb. In short, these guys seem to bite the hand that feeds them...they seem to turn on every station they work for and take all of their complaints about station issues to the airwaves, even naming names.Over the years I have heard both the Fword and the Sword slip out on the air from time to time. Guess they were lucky no one important heard it.Also, these 2 guys are way, way too political for a rock station, any rock station. I mean that they are so serious about their political opinions that they take any of the fun out of listening to a music station. If W&J belong on radio, it would be on shortwave, with all the other political extremists. :-*
 
Much of this is old news. They don't really complain about the system being switched anymore. When they came back, Walton said several times that the software Cumulus uses is difficult to use. The overnight people would program it to run music for a certain amount of time and W&J is set up differently. When they can't properly go to breaks or run their bits, I imagine they can get pretty frustrated when you're doing a show for a number of stations. The problems W&J have with the setup has also happened to Wendy, OD, and all of KFNC. The CD players were screwing up big time during last Sunday's High Fidelity. As far as the bad words slipping out, they don't know what their callers are going to say. It's happened on Backtalk too.I like W&J just fine. I'll take them any day over the Sam Malone PR spin or Atom and Maria fluff. And let's not forget about that Rod Ryan trash!Funny how the mod saw fit to edit out exactly what Rod Ryan says every morning.
 
HD2 said:
Much of this is old news. They don't really complain about the system being switched anymore. When they came back, Walton said several times that the software Cumulus uses is difficult to use. The overnight people would program it to run music for a certain amount of time and W&J is set up differently. When they can't properly go to breaks or run their bits, I imagine they can get pretty frustrated when you're doing a show for a number of stations. The problems W&J have with the setup has also happened to Wendy, OD, and all of KFNC. The CD players were screwing up big time during last Sunday's High Fidelity. As far as the bad words slipping out, they don't know what their callers are going to say. It's happened on Backtalk too.
Thank you for your info. You made my point for me. Walton shouldn't whine about the software Cumulus uses on the air. He's blaming his flagship station, fellow station employees, and the software. I bet the real problem is that Walton doesn't know how to use the software correctly. Walton's board op skills need work, or these guys could actually have someone run the board for them. Regardless, taking this complaint to the airwaves and attacking the company they work for in a vicious way is how W&J seem to operate. Did Wendy, Outlaw Dave, and the rest of KFNC blast Cumulus on the air and blame the software? Walton runs the board for his owns show, he's responsible for the "bad words" because he either doesn't know how to use the delay or doesn't want to. When they are done crying over this issue, I'll bet they'll find something else that Cumulus has done wrong, then something else, then something else, until they hook up with another station, then they'll start the bitchfest all over again.You are right, it's old news, they've just been doing it over and over for years.You won't get an arguement from me about how bad Houston morning radio is, but the sad thing is that Rod Ryan has been kicking Walton & Johnson's butts in the ratings--and so has everyone else. I don't think they've had one good book anywhere since the came to Houston. ;D
 
Did Wendy, Outlaw Dave, and the rest of KFNC blast Cumulus on the air and blame the software?
Yes and on several occasions. Both stations are still having issues with the software over a year later. Sorry, it's not just Walton. KFNC for example has stories that skip, ads that run over the shows, and bits that either don't start or have to be restarted. It's due to how it sets bits up and randomly auto plays them. So everybody has to go in with a mouse, stop, reorder, and restart. When the engineers at the flagship screw it up and trouble tickets are sent to Cumulus HQ, it's not the best system in the world. If I had a show going out to other markets and things kept screwing up on air, I wouldn't be thrilled either.
Rod Ryan has been kicking Walton & Johnson's butts in the ratings--and so has everyone else
Wow, a slam against KIOL. How original. This board loves to find any reason to trash KIOL and KFNC and your silly little W&J vendetta is no different. Rod Ryan appeals to 15-year-old burnouts who don't know any better. I'll take W&J over that loser touting how awesome beer and hookers are while calling everyone gay any day.
 
a new morning show

HD2 said:
Rod Ryan has been kicking Walton & Johnson's butts in the ratings--and so has everyone else
Wow, a slam against KIOL. How original. This board loves to find any reason to trash KIOL and KFNC and your silly little W&J vendetta is no different. Rod Ryan appeals to 15-year-old burnouts who don't know any better. I'll take W&J over that loser touting how awesome beer and hookers are while calling everyone gay any day.
speaking of bad shows....why does Rod Ryan promote American Idol? I caught it this morning and I just shook my head. meanwhile, Sam was doing his AI bit with the same music bed. YUCK!I get in the car and XM saves my drive in.
 
I would love to listen to a rock station that played music in the morning. Not many of those out there, unless you count the few songs that the Arrow or Buzz play during their morning shows.I don't count the Point for anything. They seem unfocused as far as their playlist is concerned. Maybe they'll morph into a "Jack" type station.
 
StevenNOLA said:
I personally flip back and forth between W&J and Liquid Buzz.Steven
I doubt I could pick up the HD2 stations here in the Beaumont area, and I'm sure we won't have any digital stations here unless the FCC requires it to happen. Digital TV is a great example of that - someday we'll get it here.
 
Wow, a slam against KIOL. How original. This board loves to find any reason to trash KIOL and KFNC and your silly little W&J vendetta is no different. Rod Ryan appeals to 15-year-old burnouts who don't know any better. I'll take W&J over that loser touting how awesome beer and hookers are while calling everyone gay any day.[/quote]Actually I also think the Rod Ryan show is bad and should be yanked. It's just embarrassing that despite W&J's trash talking, they have been unable to beat such a dumb show. Only CC would think of a bartender from Buffalo is good enough for the 4th largest city in America. Ryan has one of the most shrill and annoying voices I've ever heard. As for Rod Ryan calling other people gay...well...look at his picture. I saw him a long while back on a TV sports show in N.O.; he was wearing penny loafers, Bermuda shorts, gay looking shirt, earrings, and those rectangular glasses that look like those queens on E! channel that dish dirt.Out of respect for the rules of this board I won't go into the details of his living situation in New Orleans. If Rod Ryan says anyone is gay or ugly, well...he protests too much.The good news is that in less than 2 weeks, Clear Channel will yank his morning show off WRNO in New Orleans because CC has decided to kill another heritage rock station. WRNO is going News/Talk with Hannity in the Afternoons according to the all the best rumormongers. Unless CC New Orleans plans to flip another station in that cluster and put him on, Ryan will be unplugged in New Orleans. Houston radio could only improve if his show and WJ were gone. :p
 
Stan, KIOL-HD dies out somewhere between Vinton and Sulphur, LA. KHPT's HD craps out somewhere between Vidor and Orange. As far as the Missouri City sticks go, they usually reach up to the Jefferson/Chambers county line. The only other HD reaching anywhere close to Beaumont is KRVS 88.7 in Lafayette, up to the Texas state line.
 
Come to think of it, I listen to W&J daily (often from the beginning) and I've never heard them outright trash the other DJs or Pat Fant. If they dig at somebody, it's one of the suits that usually deserve it or because the show's running off track. It's rare they say anything about Clear Channel. Pruett knocks them nearly every day.As for the apperances, they attend the big ones for KIOL and often attend events in Batton Rouge. Johnson attends more. He was a judge at a few of the Miss Rock Hard contests. Walton often mentions he's out of town on weekends for family business.
 
If a p.d. were thinking about acquiring the W&J show, he would have to look at their track record and be concerned. They have, without exception had complaints and issues about engineering and upper management at every single station they have ever worked for. They do not answer to any p.d. They deal only with the owner or those right under him. They are like an island within a radio station. They do not consider themselves station employees, but independent contractors. When they are on a station, they do not talk about the competition, but they bash the morning shows across the hall. At KLOL, they went off on Ryan & Roula, even doing vicious imitations of them on air (I'm not claiming to be a Ryan & Roula listener). They never seem to be able to reconcile any differences with the radio stations they work for, I don't think they've ever had a contract renewed at their flagship station. One word describes W&J's ratings in the 3 years that they've been in Houston--FAILURE. :D
 
Emarti said:
As for Rod Ryan calling other people gay...well...look at his picture. I saw him a long while back on a TV sports show in N.O.; he was wearing penny loafers, Bermuda shorts, gay looking shirt, earrings, and those rectangular glasses that look like those queens on E! channel that dish dirt.Out of respect for the rules of this board I won't go into the details of his living situation in New Orleans. If Rod Ryan says anyone is gay or ugly, well...he protests too much.
Oh man! Don't leave us hanging! You were just getting warmed up! Go, go, go..... let's hear it! ;D
 
Emarti said:
Actually I also think the Rod Ryan show is bad and should be yanked. It's just embarrassing that despite W&J's trash talking, they have been unable to beat such a dumb show. Only CC would think of a bartender from Buffalo is good enough for the 4th largest city in America. Ryan has one of the most shrill and annoying voices I've ever heard. As for Rod Ryan calling other people gay...well...look at his picture. I saw him a long while back on a TV sports show in N.O.; he was wearing penny loafers, Bermuda shorts, gay looking shirt, earrings, and those rectangular glasses that look like those queens on E! channel that dish dirt.Out of respect for the rules of this board I won't go into the details of his living situation in New Orleans. If Rod Ryan says anyone is gay or ugly, well...he protests too much.
Could you do the show better? And are you even in the demo? And you should go into details of the living arrangements. Really. You should. We would all love to hear it.
 
a_and_m_king said:
Emarti said:
Actually I also think the Rod Ryan show is bad and should be yanked. It's just embarrassing that despite W&J's trash talking, they have been unable to beat such a dumb show. Only CC would think of a bartender from Buffalo is good enough for the 4th largest city in America. Ryan has one of the most shrill and annoying voices I've ever heard. As for Rod Ryan calling other people gay...well...look at his picture. I saw him a long while back on a TV sports show in N.O.; he was wearing penny loafers, Bermuda shorts, gay looking shirt, earrings, and those rectangular glasses that look like those queens on E! channel that dish dirt.Out of respect for the rules of this board I won't go into the details of his living situation in New Orleans. If Rod Ryan says anyone is gay or ugly, well...he protests too much.
Could you do the show better? And are you even in the demo? And you should go into details of the living arrangements. Really. You should. We would all love to hear it.
Dude, part-time overnight radio people from Kermit, Texas could do a better show. In the demo you ask--well I like rock and the music on the Buzz, just not his show, but I'm not a 14 year old into booger and ca-ca jokes.I just think it's hilarious that any radio person gay or not would take being called gay by Rod Ryan. An earring wearing, penny loafer sporting poser with a figure and wardrobe like Harvey Feirstein.Since you asked--did he not make a home in New Orleans with fellow earring wearing, Buffalo buddy, Jason Ginty whom he worked with?Rod Ryan may or may not be gay--I don't care--he just looks gay. He calls others gay on the air, but he looks like he hangs out in the Montrose. Even Liberace, Michael Jackson, and David Bowie have gotten some poontang. There are lots of gay guys that have fathered children.Oh yeah, Rod Ryan is being fired from WRNO New Orleans in less than 2 weeks when CCNO destroys it for news talk with a host from their hip-hop station. Good thing CC Houston has that new producer that's not to close to him in case he's gone from Houston too. Always better to have someone more loyal to the station than the air talent to board op or produce whatever new thing might come along.So he beats W&J in the ratings, so has everyone else.Remember you asked. Really, you did. :p
 
I don't know anything about his sexual preference, but this isn't the first time I've heard it brought up. Besides, have you met the guy he's calling gay? ;) I've heard a criticism of the show from other people in radio and not in radio. Personally I was a fan of Steve & Jeff. But I think Rod does a good job. Just my opinion. And if I ever see him out at JRs or Southbeach in Montrose, I'll post confirmation on the sexual preference question.
 
a_and_m_king said:
I don't know anything about his sexual preference, but this isn't the first time I've heard it brought up. Besides, have you met the guy he's calling gay? ;)
I don't know if I've met this person or not since I choose not to listen to RR. Who is the person he's calling gay? Isn't that also an easy lawsuit for that person gay or not? :-*
 
Emarti said:
If a p.d. were thinking about acquiring the W&J show, he would have to look at their track record and be concerned. They have, without exception had complaints and issues about engineering and upper management at every single station they have ever worked for. They do not answer to any p.d. They deal only with the owner or those right under him. They are like an island within a radio station. They do not consider themselves station employees, but independent contractors. When they are on a station, they do not talk about the competition, but they bash the morning shows across the hall. At KLOL, they went off on Ryan & Roula, even doing vicious imitations of them on air (I'm not claiming to be a Ryan & Roula listener). They never seem to be able to reconcile any differences with the radio stations they work for, I don't think they've ever had a contract renewed at their flagship station. One word describes W&J's ratings in the 3 years that they've been in Houston--FAILURE. :D
Let me understand somethingYOu have a morning show that answers to no one but the owner of a radio station or those right under him. They have what would amount to complete control of what they want to bradcast on the air. They are an "island within a radio station". Yet, they are a horrible morning show? Could you help me with this? Seems that if they sucked that bad, or billed that low, then they would n't have the kind of control that they do have.And FYI, W&J have been in Houston for 4 and a half years.
 
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