Stevie said he would never sell the station because its important to the community. The problem is that alot of their past listeners have moved on to KTWV or KHHT. Since its main target audinece is south los angeles alot of african americans have moved out to Riverside Lancaster or even left the city all together. It can still be saved just a more focus playlist
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KJLH is so unfocused right now.
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mandella said:
I laughed out loud when I read this post. I do not care for Tammi but Don Amiche has potential.
I still like Lon McQ. He is the only thing left of the "old" KJLH so I would not want to see him go unless they bit the bullet and reformulated their whole presentation.
I do not know what to think of the new music mix. Urbans around the country are playing more R&B and Urban ACs are playing more hip-hop so there does seem to be a gradual convergence of the two formats. As another poster said, day-parting would be a more logical way to do it though.
Why do Adult R&B stations do that though.
It depends on the market you lived in. In Atlanta V103 plays more R&B than Hip Hop Same thing in Kansas City KPRS plays more R&B than Hip Hop.
OMG!it's happenig again they were playing Kush by Dr. Dre
Yes they been playing it for a while thats why their Radio Free becasue they can do whatever and play whatever they want. Still remeber the day when they started playing Sexyback in 06 thats OMG!!!!! for yah but the song was added to Mediabase UAC panel when it first came out. It wasnt a hit but some stations UAC stations played it.
It depends on the market you lived in. In Atlanta V103 plays more R&B than Hip Hop Same thing in Kansas City KPRS plays more R&B than Hip Hop.
OMG!it's happenig again they were playing Kush by Dr. Dre
Yes they been playing it for a while thats why their Radio Free becasue they can do whatever and play whatever they want. Still remeber the day when they started playing Sexyback in 06 thats OMG!!!!! for yah but the song was added to Mediabase UAC panel when it first came out. It wasnt a hit but some stations UAC stations played it.
wdb2003 said:
Well, KPRS and WVEE (V-103) are long time full-service, dayparted "urban contemporary" stations with full-market signals. They also have changed with the times, at one point in the mid-2000s V-103 was a "mainstream urban" but when PPM was introduced to the Atlanta market then it reverted back to urban contemporary. The average 20-35 "young professional/college student" range of the urban music listener in Atlanta, which allows for a R&B-lean to the leading urban music station that plays hip-hop. I'm assuming Kansas City is a similar situation since KPRS has dominated even against a strong rhythmic in its post-PPM market. L.A. and SF Bay Area are much younger and diverse urban music markets, but R&B does have a place.
KJLH has two liabilities lack of coherent programming and a weak signal.
"KJLH has two liabilities lack of coherent programming and a weak signal." .................... two problems they have had 4 ever and some how can not solve why?
The signal is a product of the way the FCC licenses stations. KJLH is licensed for a lesser kind of facility than most of the large LA FMs, and there is nothing significant (if at all) that can be done to improve the signal without interfering with other stations on the crowded SoCal / Baja dial.
As to programming, when you have a market that only has a small Black population with many other stations and formats, the station that targets Blacks specifically may feel obligated to be broad musically in order to serve the community, with the sometimes result that the station is not quite perfect to anyone. This is, of course, what small town stations often were faced with before satellite, the Internet, etc.
The signal is a product of the way the FCC licenses stations. KJLH is licensed for a lesser kind of facility than most of the large LA FMs, and there is nothing significant (if at all) that can be done to improve the signal without interfering with other stations on the crowded SoCal / Baja dial.
As to programming, when you have a market that only has a small Black population with many other stations and formats, the station that targets Blacks specifically may feel obligated to be broad musically in order to serve the community, with the sometimes result that the station is not quite perfect to anyone. This is, of course, what small town stations often were faced with before satellite, the Internet, etc.
KJLH glory days were in the 80's. When KPWR hit the airways it was their frist major blow. Then came KKBT. During that time the only choices for R&B was KJLH and KACE. The problem is alot of african americans have moved away from Los Angeles. If they are still in southern cali its in areas like Riverside Lancaster and Palmdale where KJLH signal does not reach. Alot of people I know hardly listen to KJLH anymore. Maybe once in a while but not on a regular basis. Its kinda annoying listening to a station that fades in and out. So a full power signal makes since to listen too.
As to programming, when you have a market that only has a small Black population with many other stations and formats, the station that targets Blacks specifically may feel obligated to be broad musically in order to serve the community, with the sometimes result that the station is not quite perfect to anyone. This is, of course, what small town stations often were faced with before satellite, the Internet, etc.
True KJLH started playing more Hip Hop when KDAY stop playing current music. They could have pulled it off but instead thay started airing Steve Harvey which really didnt help. When KKBT flipped to the Sound, KJLH figured they could snatch up their listeners but instead they moved on to KHHT and KTWV. KHHT may appeal to Hispanics which is no problem but 95% of their music features african american artist so we consider it to be the Old School station. KJLH can pull off being a full service urban just needs to be programmed right.
True KJLH started playing more Hip Hop when KDAY stop playing current music. They could have pulled it off but instead thay started airing Steve Harvey which really didnt help. When KKBT flipped to the Sound, KJLH figured they could snatch up their listeners but instead they moved on to KHHT and KTWV. KHHT may appeal to Hispanics which is no problem but 95% of their music features african american artist so we consider it to be the Old School station. KJLH can pull off being a full service urban just needs to be programmed right.
I'm assuming Kansas City is a similar situation since KPRS has dominated even against a strong rhythmic in its post-PPM market. L.A. and SF Bay Area are much younger and diverse urban music markets, but R&B does have a place.
Yes KPRS has changed with the times. At first it was a full servcie urban station but now it leans more towards Mainstream Urban. When PPM ratings came to Kansas City KPRS took a hit big time. As of know KCHZ which is a pop rhythnmic station has the same cume but on a poor signal that mainly serves the Kansas side not the Missouri side. KPRS actually played a few pop hits in the early 2000's like Brittney Christina and Pink and still remained #1 mainly because they are on the only Urban Hip Hop station in town. But urban station are dayparted very well back in the south and east.
In the 90's we had three urban formatted station in L.A.
1. There was KJLH when it wasn't using the Radio Free Branding of course.
2. 92.3 The Beat L.A.'s Home For Hip Hop & R&B
3. Power 106 rhythmic with an urban contemporary lean trying to sound like 92.3 The Beat
We also had KACE until Cox sold the station in 1999. Way more focused station.
I never really listened to KJLH regulary just when I was in an R&B mood. I used to mainly listen 92.3 The Beat & Power 106 in the 1990's and early 2000's. I miss those days. R.I.P. KKBT thanks for 15 years of great Hip Hop & R&B.
Same here I hated KJLH back in the 90's I didnt start listening to the Beat until 96 when I went to junior high. Power 106 never really cared for but my older siblings loved the station. I was into B100.3 for a while great memories.
Yes KPRS has changed with the times. At first it was a full servcie urban station but now it leans more towards Mainstream Urban. When PPM ratings came to Kansas City KPRS took a hit big time. As of know KCHZ which is a pop rhythnmic station has the same cume but on a poor signal that mainly serves the Kansas side not the Missouri side. KPRS actually played a few pop hits in the early 2000's like Brittney Christina and Pink and still remained #1 mainly because they are on the only Urban Hip Hop station in town. But urban station are dayparted very well back in the south and east.
In the 90's we had three urban formatted station in L.A.
1. There was KJLH when it wasn't using the Radio Free Branding of course.
2. 92.3 The Beat L.A.'s Home For Hip Hop & R&B
3. Power 106 rhythmic with an urban contemporary lean trying to sound like 92.3 The Beat
We also had KACE until Cox sold the station in 1999. Way more focused station.
I never really listened to KJLH regulary just when I was in an R&B mood. I used to mainly listen 92.3 The Beat & Power 106 in the 1990's and early 2000's. I miss those days. R.I.P. KKBT thanks for 15 years of great Hip Hop & R&B.
Same here I hated KJLH back in the 90's I didnt start listening to the Beat until 96 when I went to junior high. Power 106 never really cared for but my older siblings loved the station. I was into B100.3 for a while great memories.
I just wasnt into their music back then. I wasnt feelin the oldies or the playlist they would repaeat the same song every 2 hours. The only time I remeber listening to the station was when The Fugees song came out. Never cared for KACE either I was like 12 or 13 in 1996. But I started listening to them when I moved back in 2006. They had a unique Urban AC sound then around 2007 when Cliff left the music started to change.
Yes Killing Me Softly was a very popular song when in came in 95-96 KJLH played it all the time. The song was a hit on Urban AC radio. Its so popular the song is on rotation on KOST KTWV KHHT and KBIG til this day. Hell I heard it on KJLL. It was also a top 40 hit as well. There was two verison but most stations only play the non rap version without Wyculf.
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