KKLF Flips Back to The Ticket?

[AlanB]

Did I hear someone on The Ticket refer to them having the 1700 signal back again?

 

[cactus]

yes.

 

[War Of Attrition]

I wonder if this is permanent or just a temporary stop-gap due to the damage from the storm. According to The Ticket's website they are also now available on 99.5 HD2.

Just move The Ticket to 93.3 already. This is as good a time as any to just blow up The Bone and be done with it.

 

[jeffdfw]

I hope the broadcast on 99.5 HD-2 is just temporary. I really like Vibe 99.5 and I could care less about the Ticket.

 

[firstimelongtime]

Says so right on the Ticket home page, they are working to recify the problem (sic).

 

[eas_test]

The Ticket (1310AM) lost 3 of its 4 towers today. They're transmitting a day signal of 2.5kw into the one remaining tower. It's probably using the other stations to try to fill in the gaps.

Email me if you want pics.

 

[dallasrockradio]

During normal circumstances, why does KLIF broadcast on 1700? The 570 signal covers everything the 1700 signal does.

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

During normal circumstances, why does KLIF broadcast on 1700? The 570 signal covers everything the 1700 signal does.

Until I moved to Frisco, I would have thought the same thing. But when KLIF goes DA-2 to protect WNAX, there's a deep null that makes 570 absolutely unlistenable in a big swath of Collin County. The Cuban facility on that frequency (with the clock ticking SFX) creates a lot of QRM, too. I have a preset on 1700 in order to catch Savage after the pattern change during the drive home on SH-121.

Presuming someone from Cumulus drops by the forum, has there been any thought about buying WNAX and just shutting it down or reducing its nighttime footprint? I know that Group W did that with KLRA in Little Rock to open up the 1010/WINS pattern into New Jersey. So much of the D/FW population growth is happening right in that sharp null toward Yankton and that's got to hurt KLIF, especially during fall and winter AM drive.

 

[jd]

Meanwhile, at least last night when I listened, 570 was ID'ing as "KLIF Dallas-Fort Worth, KKLF Richardson."

 

[kb5tmd]

Dave Ramsey was on KKLF 1700 yesterday afternoon. Perhaps they flipped 1700 back to simulcasting KLIF again.

 

[kb5tmd]

Presuming someone from Cumulus drops by the forum, has there been any thought about buying WNAX and just shutting it down or reducing its nighttime footprint? I know that Group W did that with KLRA in Little Rock to open up the 1010/WINS pattern into New Jersey. So much of the D/FW population growth is happening right in that sharp null toward Yankton and that's got to hurt KLIF, especially during fall and winter AM drive.
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I like KLIF but I'd hate to see anything done with WNAX's signal. I'm from the Midwest and WNAX is a giant of a signal up there. The station provides a valuable service to a 5 state area.

 

[jd]

I like KLIF but I'd hate to see anything done with WNAX's signal. I'm from the Midwest and WNAX is a giant of a signal up there. The station provides a valuable service to a 5 state area.

Agreed about WNAX, and it's a shame that what was probably the second-best signal in Little Rock, KLRA (10,000 day/5000 night), was silenced. I'm okay with shuffling things around a little but killing viable signals is going too far.

As I see it the answer for KLIF would be to move their site up into either Denton or Collin County since the population center continues to move generally north. If it were properly engineered such a move might allow a power increase, too, at least for daytime. Even the Ticket could stand some updating, since their site west of Carrollton is showing its age. That vicious nighttime null toward Plano wasn't that much of a problem at first but now many of their P-1's live up north and lose the signal, especially during the winter months.

 

[Mediafrog+]

I'm from the Midwest and WNAX is a giant of a signal up there. The station provides a valuable service to a 5 state area.

WNAX is said to have the best daytime groundwave coverage of any station in the U.S. Probably the only North American station with a better overall daytime signal is CBK 540 in Saskatchewan.

 

[Media Mogul]

If you were to take the number of complaints and stack them up next to each other, there might be more listeners crying foul at shutting down WNAX than KLIF. There are more midwestern, rural Americans that are serviced by these bigtime AMs like that one and KRVN than one could ever imagine. Given KLIF's ratings performance in recent years, Yankton might just have more listeners when you look at their coverage area, and the person that is their P1.

I know people will say I'm crazy, but I feel like I could be onto something!

 

[DeVasher]

Why dont they just build a two tower array out by the race track in Ft. Worth and shoot SouthEast over Gulf of Mexico and be done with it? You would probably have to take 560 out in Dothan, but they've only got 118 watts at night and judging by their website it would be a fairly inexpensive thing to do. It could be a monster signal...25Kw Day and 25 KW night.

 

[jd]

Two towers wouldn't cut it, since the patterns would probably be quite complicated from any new site. The major consideration on 560, both day and night, would be KLVI in Beaumont. On 570 itself there are many other factors, including a couple of mutually exclusive applications for stations in Louisiana and coastal Mississippi. The list of all stations on 570 also shows potential problems with Mexico, in particular in Yucatan:
www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?state=&call...&slat2=&NS=N&dlon2=&mlon2=&slon2=&EW=W&size=9
Then there's the issue of getting FAA clearance for towers. The location you mentioned would be pretty close to final approach for flights landing at D/FW.

 

[DeVasher]

You're right about FAA, but the real problem is the private airport south of TMS. Based on what I am seeing in my pattern book...shooting directly over Gulf of Mexico toward Cuba works...you stay out of Mexico that way. I think two towers, maybe three in a line would do it as there is nothing to the NW to interfere with. It is kind of wide open. Yankton is due North. I have the latest edition of the AM Station Antenna Pattern Book (Sixth Edition) that shows day and night patterns. Coastal Mississippi you buy and turn off.

 

[kb5tmd]

Isn't the Coastal Mississippi signal on 570 from Biloxi? If that is the one, it's WTMI. I believe that signal was moved to 1640 about 5 years ago. I'm not sure why that was done. It seems to me that 5000 watts at 570 would have better coverage than 10,000 watts at 1640 in the daytime.

 

[kzewdude]

Why not put the Ticket on KLIF's 570 frequency and put KLIF on 1310, the weaker of the two signals? My God, the Ticket is on, what, 3 different freqencies to help with its anemic signal coverage. KLIF's a non player now, so why should it have the third best AM signal in the market? Doesn't make any sense, does it?

 

[LibertyNT]

Why not put the Ticket on KLIF's 570 frequency and put KLIF on 1310, the weaker of the two signals? My God, the Ticket is on, what, 3 different freqencies to help with its anemic signal coverage. KLIF's a non player now, so why should it have the third best AM signal in the market? Doesn't make any sense, does it?

Because the Ticket actually has a Great Daytime Coverage with 9KW
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTCK&service=AM&status=L&hours=D