KLSX 97.1 FM Talk becomes Ampradio 97.1 Aircheck!

[klutch00]

Strange idea, but do any AM powerhouses ever think of trying to do a personality or 'hot-talk' format?

 

[davideduardo]

Strange idea, but do any AM powerhouses ever think of trying to do a personality or 'hot-talk' format?

Nope. The Hot Talk focus is defintely 25-44, and 25-44 is not a demo AM will ever have again.

 

[scooty430]

Not so. Indie had a "goodbye" show during the entire morning of the switch, and then for two days ran a tape loop with messages about the Indie-on-the-Web project.

Has anybody posted an aircheck of that morning show on Indie?

Borrowing from the thread of that day - 1/15/2009 "Bye Bye Indie. It Was Nice Knowing You." - there is a 2-part link to the Indie 103.1 signoff airchecks (courtesy of JasonHarper2007):
http://www.imeem.com/people/HK2kfu/music/Vj0rE8CD/replay_av_recording_indie_1031_say_good_byepart_1/ and
http://www.imeem.com/people/HK2kfu/..._av_recording_indie_1031_say_good_bye_part_2/

After I posted these links, I actually listened to them. Unfortunately all they are is the "loop" of 6 or so songs with the "announcements" that aired after the last morning show that signed off around 10am PT. Only within about the last half hour or so of that morning show did the hosts start saying their goodbyes, wrapping up with Frank Sinatra's "My Way".

That's what I thought. Clearly, the jocks at Indie caught wind with 30 minutes to go, and naturally said goodbye in some way. But that's not a 'goodbye show,' one where thought goes into how it will end, and the audience is forewarned so they can tune in and hear it.

The last two rock stations that mattered, KMET and the Edge, both had well publicized "end dates," and the creative people at the station had a chance to plan something special. KLSX also did this, and though I loathed the talk-version of the station, good for them and their fans.

KMET mattered - can't say the same about The Edge - which never got more than a 1 share.

Sometimes "mattering" is not about number of listeners or number of dollars made.

The "Star Wars" theme and "You Light Up My Life" made piles of money in the mid-70s, but I think most would agree that the relatively low-selling Ramones and Sex Pistols mattered a whole lot more.

 

[davideduardo]

Sometimes "mattering" is not about number of listeners or number of dollars made.

The "Star Wars" theme and "You Light Up My Life" made piles of money in the mid-70s, but I think most would agree that the relatively low-selling Ramones and Sex Pistols mattered a whole lot more.

Actually, in commercial radio the number of listeners and dollars made is critical. Without an audience, you can not sell advertising. Without advertising revenue, you can not long sustain any format.

Generally, this means that the broadest taste groups will be well served, and most small niche groups will not be.

 

[4dude]

I listenend to the changeover posted on this thread and my comments??

YUK!

I couldnt stand more than 5 minutes of that garbage!!

I liked listening to TOM LYKIS!!! --- When the music came on i completly hated it!


They probably wont last....... (WHAT A SHAME......)

 

[scooty430]

Sometimes "mattering" is not about number of listeners or number of dollars made.

The "Star Wars" theme and "You Light Up My Life" made piles of money in the mid-70s, but I think most would agree that the relatively low-selling Ramones and Sex Pistols mattered a whole lot more.

Actually, in commercial radio the number of listeners and dollars made is critical. Without an audience, you can not sell advertising. Without advertising revenue, you can not long sustain any format.

Generally, this means that the broadest taste groups will be well served, and most small niche groups will not be.

Missing point.

Sometimes something's historical or artistic merit is not reflected in its popularity. Hence Indie, in many people's eyes, 'matters' more than, say, KOST. Or the Velvet Underground 'matters' more than Donny Osmond.

"Mattering" is subjective, and cannot be simply defined as revenue generated, widgets sold, and numbers tallied. Yes, that is one way of measuring something's worth. (And the most easily quanitifiable.) But it is only one way.

Which is why the guy who said KMET mattered because it had ratings, but The Edge didn't matter, doesn't quite get it.

 

[AM FM listener]

The movie industry illustrates the difference between commercial success and artistic success very well. The box office reflects commercial success, which is quantifiable. The Oscars reflect artistic success, which is subjective. In some cases, like Titanic, they merge. In many (most?) years, the year's top grossing film doesn't even get nominated for Best Picture.

 

[davideduardo]

The movie industry illustrates the difference between commercial success and artistic success very well. The box office reflects commercial success, which is quantifiable. The Oscars reflect artistic success, which is subjective. In some cases, like Titanic, they merge. In many (most?) years, the year's top grossing film doesn't even get nominated for Best Picture.

And, thus, the ever-lessened impact of the Oscars as a TV event. It's become frequent to hear people, the day after the Oscars, commenting that renting or buying the DVD of the winning movies is tantamount to a guaranteed evening of boredom or disgust. A big Oscar win used to renew interest in a flick... now it seems to be the kiss of death.