KMCQ now 80's?

[AQH]

Nor was I seeking your respect nor sympathies Mack. I can't believe that I even need to explain this to you, but here goes..

The whole point being that someone in the industry who actually knows something about radio move-in's posts a clear and concise message in a effort to stem the continuing uneducated speculation. Clearly having no idea of what they're talking about, you feel that you're "being talked down" to.

It seems to me Mack that someone as yourself, who appears to know very little about the industry, can either read the posts and gather knowledge where applicable, or have knee jerk reactions by replying to just about every post on this board with non-contributory statements.

You see Mack, people who know something about the topic, (in this case the business side of the radio industry),garner respect for their knowledge; but those who reply with ignorant comments, just look....ignorant.

TVrg, get used to way out there comments. Pointing out the reality in the business today gets you labeled as being a PD that fires staff, GM, consultant or a general suck-up.

Try not to let it get to you too much, but understand some things mentioned here are WAY above the heads of some people. After awhile, it's pretty easy to spot the ones who have the clue on today's radio, the ones who have multiple handles and the ones who act on knee-jerk, emotional rants.

 

[Board Editor 3]

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[Grindlfan]

For those of you who apparently don't understand what KMCQ is, let me clear it up for you:

1) The station is not meant to be a "contender"... it's a PLACE HOLDER
2) First Broadcasting isn't an operator... they are SPECULATORS
3) The station will NEVER "pick a competitive format", "hire sales people," or let you "test out new formats."

KMCQ is waiting on FCC approval of an upgrade to Cougar Mountain. Once approved, the license will be SOLD at a PROFIT. First won't even bother to actually make the move to Cougar -- they don't need to. For those of you who are disgusted by the station being off the air: THEY DON'T CARE! They will eventually get it back on, to satisfy their minimum requirements to maintain the license, and that's it. Further, no one is "programming" this station! All of your excitement about the thrilling new format change to "Eighties" is meaningless! The music is coming from a laptop at the transmitter. Very little, if any thought, has gone into what music is selected. It's likely the work of a contract engineer. First told him, "Put something on the air. Whatever you want. We don't care." The station does not need to have "curb appeal" to be sold. It's value is based 100% on stick value, and 0% on how it sounds (or whether it's even on the air) now. It's not a real station, and it never will be while First owns it - get it? All of your wishful thinking won't make this into a viable station until it is sold to an actual broadcaster. I realize this is troubling for all of you who thought we had a brand new shiny radio station in Seattle. We don't ... at least not yet. First Broadcasting does not operate stations and will not operate KMCQ. It may take some time, but they will eventually sell it to someone who will add it to their cluster and only then give it viable programming. May take some time, but it WILL happen.

You don't have to talk down to people. Try showing some respect! You must be one of those corporatists.

Mack, the arrogance and condescension displayed on this site are the main reasons why radio has turned into such a cavern of crap. Like most corporate pigs in this country, running radio stations apparently is no different. They can't be told anything for in their minds they know all.

 

[Mack Daddy]

For those of you who apparently don't understand what KMCQ is, let me clear it up for you:

1) The station is not meant to be a "contender"... it's a PLACE HOLDER
2) First Broadcasting isn't an operator... they are SPECULATORS
3) The station will NEVER "pick a competitive format", "hire sales people," or let you "test out new formats."

KMCQ is waiting on FCC approval of an upgrade to Cougar Mountain. Once approved, the license will be SOLD at a PROFIT. First won't even bother to actually make the move to Cougar -- they don't need to. For those of you who are disgusted by the station being off the air: THEY DON'T CARE! They will eventually get it back on, to satisfy their minimum requirements to maintain the license, and that's it. Further, no one is "programming" this station! All of your excitement about the thrilling new format change to "Eighties" is meaningless! The music is coming from a laptop at the transmitter. Very little, if any thought, has gone into what music is selected. It's likely the work of a contract engineer. First told him, "Put something on the air. Whatever you want. We don't care." The station does not need to have "curb appeal" to be sold. It's value is based 100% on stick value, and 0% on how it sounds (or whether it's even on the air) now. It's not a real station, and it never will be while First owns it - get it? All of your wishful thinking won't make this into a viable station until it is sold to an actual broadcaster. I realize this is troubling for all of you who thought we had a brand new shiny radio station in Seattle. We don't ... at least not yet. First Broadcasting does not operate stations and will not operate KMCQ. It may take some time, but they will eventually sell it to someone who will add it to their cluster and only then give it viable programming. May take some time, but it WILL happen.

You don't have to talk down to people. Try showing some respect! You must be one of those corporatists.

Mack, the arrogance and condescension displayed on this site are the main reasons why radio has turned into such a cavern of crap. Like most corporate pigs in this country, running radio stations apparently is no different. They can't be told anything for in their minds they know all.

It just amazes me how the corporate greed impairs rational thought. I can't believe with 30-some stations in the greater Seattle market that the formats are so much the same, and there is holes in the market, such as the one created when KBSG, B-97 became a news station. Why do we need 24 hour news-talk on the fm dial? Seems like someone, like the KMCQ stick might want to fill the oldies void. KBSG was rating higher than KJR FM. Why doesn't KJR revert more back to their 70's format? They are playing so much 80's now, and thats already well covered by Jack, and for those in the south end KRXY as well. How many country stations do we have in this market now, 5 or 6? If I were programming a station, or multiple stations even, I would make them different and interesting. That would probably even sell more advertising. But it's all good! I know you corporatists on this board don't give a rat sass what I say because I'm not a CEO or other corporatist!

 

[TVradioguru]

Why do we need 24 hour news-talk on the fm dial? Seems like someone, like the KMCQ stick might want to fill the oldies void. KBSG was rating higher than KJR FM. Why doesn't KJR revert more back to their 70's format? They are playing so much 80's now, and thats already well covered by Jack, and for those in the south end KRXY as well. How many country stations do we have in this market now, 5 or 6? If I were programming a station, or multiple stations even, I would make them different and interesting. That would probably even sell more advertising. But it's all good! I know you corporatists on this board don't give a rat sass what I say because I'm not a CEO or other corporatist!

Two points: #1 Why do we need a 24 hour news-talk station on the FM dial? Because overall listening of the AM band is dying off with the generation that grew up with it.

#2 It's not that I don't give a "rats sass" about what you say because you're not a CEO or "corporatist", (you seem to like to use that word), it's because your posts have completely no base in knowledge or reality.

Trust me, running a radio business is much more complicated than speaking through the drive-through headset in which you base your broadcasting experience.

 

[bossbill]

Why is it that so many radio enthusiasts think they know all about programming, engineering, and business management? There must also somewhere be a forum where people who know nothing about making or marketing ice cream can come up with convoluted theories about which flavors to sell, what they should be called, the hours of operation, whether Baskin should have merged with Robbins, and how many employees are needed to wait on customers.

If some of the posters would simply develop some minimal knowledge about the business, it would make for more interesting discussion.

 

[Mack Daddy]

Why do we need 24 hour news-talk on the fm dial? Seems like someone, like the KMCQ stick might want to fill the oldies void. KBSG was rating higher than KJR FM. Why doesn't KJR revert more back to their 70's format? They are playing so much 80's now, and thats already well covered by Jack, and for those in the south end KRXY as well. How many country stations do we have in this market now, 5 or 6? If I were programming a station, or multiple stations even, I would make them different and interesting. That would probably even sell more advertising. But it's all good! I know you corporatists on this board don't give a rat sass what I say because I'm not a CEO or other corporatist!

Two points: #1 Why do we need a 24 hour news-talk station on the FM dial? Because overall listening of the AM band is dying off with the generation that grew up with it.

#2 It's not that I don't give a "rats sass" about what you say because you're not a CEO or "corporatist", (you seem to like to use that word), it's because your posts have completely no base in knowledge or reality.

Trust me, running a radio business is much more complicated than speaking through the drive-through headset in which you base your broadcasting experience.

I wasn't claiming to be a broadcaster, oh self-proclaimed guru! But don't you CEO's realize that the opinions of the consumer DO matter? If people don't want what you are selling we stop buying. I've learned never to trust anyone who thinks they have all the facts.

 

[Mack Daddy]

Why is it that so many radio enthusiasts think they know all about programming, engineering, and business management? There must also somewhere be a forum where people who know nothing about making or marketing ice cream can come up with convoluted theories about which flavors to sell, what they should be called, the hours of operation, whether Baskin should have merged with Robbins, and how many employees are needed to wait on customers.

If some of the posters would simply develop some minimal knowledge about the business, it would make for more interesting discussion.

Quite frankly this message board would be extremely boring if the only posts were from posters who spout the corporatist elitist talking points. I find it refreshing to see some posts from people who listen to radio stations, the very radio stations you claim to know all about, and you think nobody could possibly have any issues with your programming choices. some of us here will set you straight!

 

[TVradioguru]

I wasn't claiming to be a broadcaster,

Really?? Based on your vast knowledge and opinion of the radio business that you seem to expound upon here, I find that shocking!

But don't you CEO's realize that the opinions of the consumer DO matter?

No we pretty much sit around playing what we want, not researching thousands of listeners, lighting our cigars with Benjamin Franklin's.

If people don't want what you are selling we stop buying. I've learned never to trust anyone who thinks they have all the facts.

Nor do we trust that you represent the vast majority of radio listeners for several reasons:

1. You appear to have no concept that radio is indeed a business by just assuming out of hand that radio should play to your unique personal taste, (whatever that is), in spite of any need to make money as a business.

2. Just as you assume all industry insiders on this board are corporate fat-cat's, you assume that broadcasters today don't listen to the majority of the audience. Wrong on both counts. You Mack, represent 1/10,000,000 of radio listeners who couldn't articulate what you want other than "something different". What?? Mack Daddy wants "something different"? Well we'll get that on right away!! Please! Broadcasters spend millions of dollars every year on research. For the radio stations that you frequent, do you also support the station by spending money with their advertisers? No, I didn't thing so...

My advice to you Mack, is to buy an IPod. You can play whatever left-leaning/right-leaning political talk, Norwegian Ox mating calls, infomercials, or anything that floats your boat. While you're at it, buy one for your friend LonelySummer too. Oh wait, you are one and the same.

 

[Mack Daddy]

I wasn't claiming to be a broadcaster,

Really?? Based on your vast knowledge and opinion of the radio business that you seem to expound upon here, I find that shocking!

But don't you CEO's realize that the opinions of the consumer DO matter?

No we pretty much sit around playing what we want, not researching thousands of listeners, lighting our cigars with Benjamin Franklin's.

If people don't want what you are selling we stop buying. I've learned never to trust anyone who thinks they have all the facts.

Nor do we trust that you represent the vast majority of radio listeners for several reasons:

1. You appear to have no concept that radio is indeed a business by just assuming out of hand that radio should play to your unique personal taste, (whatever that is), in spite of any need to make money as a business.

2. Just as you assume all industry insiders on this board are corporate fat-cat's, you assume that broadcasters today don't listen to the majority of the audience. Wrong on both counts. You Mack, represent 1/10,000,000 of radio listeners who couldn't articulate what you want other than "something different". What?? Mack Daddy wants "something different"? Well we'll get that on right away!! Please! Broadcasters spend millions of dollars every year on research. For the radio stations that you frequent, do you also support the station by spending money with their advertisers? No, I didn't thing so...

My advice to you Mack, is to buy an IPod. You can play whatever left-leaning/right-leaning political talk, Norwegian Ox mating calls, infomercials, or anything that floats your boat. While you're at it, buy one for your friend LonelySummer too. Oh wait, you are one and the same.

You're pretty funny, dude! Where is all this research you claim you and your peers do? I've never once been contacted to find out what I think of the 70 or so radio stations in this market. Might I compliment you on your excellent advice to buy an ipod! Soon nobody will be listening to your pathetic, repetitious radio programming.