SF is a difficult market, not the same as Seattle at all. There is a huge hispanic population that changes the radio landscape. In Seattle Country does well, in SF it is a non-factor. In SF, KGO dominates the entire market and does well 25-54, in Seattle the AM's do not do well in prime demographics. Alice was a troubled station before Chris arrived, but she has not helped it. MOVIN is a mess, but in Seattle MOVIN is not looking much better. I am not sure if it is Mike Preston's fault or if the format just does not work. MOVIN in LA is awful too. It didn't even get the momentum of JACK, it died much quicker. Most professional media buyers stayed away from JACK and even the least professional stayed away from MOVIN.