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KNX on Backup Power

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KNX is reporting they are on backup power because of the power outage. Streaming of LA news stations continues, but is somewhat slow to get started, probably because of demand.

The national news channels are relaying KCAL, KTTV, and KTLA for the most part, although CNN seems to be having a lot of issues with their feeds this afternoon.

The coverage is wall to wall, but frustrated perhaps by the DWP's PRbots who are doing the "we are working diligently to bring back the power... this was a proactive outage." Always so nice to use words like "proactive" which leads most of the on air people to wonder what the heck that means.

Thankfully, a day after the Al-Qaeda "dude" did his rant against LA and Melbourne, this turns out to be a case of an accidental cable cut by a worker. The only terror involved here is probably for those stuck in elevators.
 
> KNX is reporting they are on backup power because of the
> power outage. Streaming of LA news stations continues, but
> is somewhat slow to get started, probably because of demand.
>
>
> The national news channels are relaying KCAL, KTTV, and KTLA
> for the most part, although CNN seems to be having a lot of
> issues with their feeds this afternoon.
>
> The coverage is wall to wall, but frustrated perhaps by the
> DWP's PRbots who are doing the "we are working diligently to
> bring back the power... this was a proactive outage."
> Always so nice to use words like "proactive" which leads
> most of the on air people to wonder what the heck that
> means.
>
> Thankfully, a day after the Al-Qaeda "dude" did his rant
> against LA and Melbourne, this turns out to be a case of an
> accidental cable cut by a worker. The only terror involved
> here is probably for those stuck in elevators.
>

Scott Mason has some problems to fix at the new Miracle Mile location of KFWB and KNX. They were not able to take live calls on the air including all reporters (SBC phone lines did not go down, nor did Verizon or even my cell service, Sprint PCS). They finally had to get a cell phone hook-up just to get outside calls on. And the generator didn't kick in right away. Being an all news outlet and being off the air during an emergency doesn't look good when you are in the #1 radio revenue market in the world.

Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I can't believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air technical problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in this town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real emergency.
 
>
> Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I can't
> believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air technical
> problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in this
> town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real
> emergency.

There were plenty of radio stations off in 94. Many discovered that the rules that severly regulate gennys in some buildings or jurisdictions, despite short term UPS devices, ended up putting stations off the air.

In fact, only one of all the Spanish stations was on for the first 6 hours after the quake. KTNQ and KLVE were in a building where code did not allow a genny... same for KLAX and KXED.
 
> >
> > Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I can't
> > believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air technical
>
> > problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in this
> > town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real
> > emergency.
>
> There were plenty of radio stations off in 94. Many
> discovered that the rules that severly regulate gennys in
> some buildings or jurisdictions, despite short term UPS
> devices, ended up putting stations off the air.
>
> In fact, only one of all the Spanish stations was on for the
> first 6 hours after the quake. KTNQ and KLVE were in a
> building where code did not allow a genny... same for KLAX
> and KXED.

David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know by now that only responses that agree with his view of the world are acceptable.<P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
>
> David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know by
> now that only responses that agree with his view of the
> world are acceptable.
>

Indeed. I am duly contrite.

(Ignoring for a moment that some media could not broadcast in 1994 due to structural damage to their facilities, a thing quakes are known to do.)
 
> > >
> > > Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I
> can't
> > > believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air
> technical
> >
> > > problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in
> this
> > > town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real
> > > emergency.
> >
> > There were plenty of radio stations off in 94. Many
> > discovered that the rules that severly regulate gennys in
> > some buildings or jurisdictions, despite short term UPS
> > devices, ended up putting stations off the air.
> >
> > In fact, only one of all the Spanish stations was on for
> the
> > first 6 hours after the quake. KTNQ and KLVE were in a
> > building where code did not allow a genny... same for KLAX
>
> > and KXED.
>
> David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know by
> now that only responses that agree with his view of the
> world are acceptable.
>

Great response, KMR. You are staying on topic just like you always preach by the Radio-info.com rules.
 
> Great response, KMR. You are staying on topic just like you
> always preach by the Radio-info.com rules.

Yes, that's what I figured you would say. Thanks for living up to my expectations. <P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
> >
> > Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I can't
> > believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air technical
>
> > problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in this
> > town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real
> > emergency.
>
> There were plenty of radio stations off in 94. Many
> discovered that the rules that severly regulate gennys in
> some buildings or jurisdictions, despite short term UPS
> devices, ended up putting stations off the air.
>
> In fact, only one of all the Spanish stations was on for the
> first 6 hours after the quake. KTNQ and KLVE were in a
> building where code did not allow a genny... same for KLAX
> and KXED.
>

KNX and KFWB had back-up power immediately after the '94 earthquake and remained on the air and were immediately able to take calls. Today, KNX programming - not the transmitter - was off for nearly 10 minutes. I know, I was listening BOTH TIMES.

During the '94 Martin Luther King Day earthquake, K-CAL 9 was the first tv station to get on the air in Los Angeles within 15 minutes of the earthquake WITH LIVE NEWS (all local VHF tv stations were back on the air in less than 15 minutes). I was lucky enough to be in an area that never lost power and scanned all radio and tv immediately.

All the Infinity stations in the Citibank buidling are on a brand new generator that was installed just for them. Ask Scott.

As for the local tv stations, NONE are in buildings where they are not owned by themseves or the sole tenants. They have NO code problems for generators.
 
> > Great response, KMR. You are staying on topic just like
> you
> > always preach by the Radio-info.com rules.
>
> Yes, that's what I figured you would say. Thanks for living
> up to my expectations.
>

I am so sorry you can't add anything FACTUAL about this subject. But that doesn't surprise me or anyone else.
 
> >
> > David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know by
>
> > now that only responses that agree with his view of the
> > world are acceptable.
> >
>
> Indeed. I am duly contrite.
>
> (Ignoring for a moment that some media could not broadcast
> in 1994 due to structural damage to their facilities, a
> thing quakes are known to do.)
>

Umm, the station I was working for was back within an hour. I'm sorry that HBC picked a crumbling buidling...

And all newsers KFWB and KNX never missed a beat...nor did L.A.'s tv stations. But they all looked poor today...
 
> > >
> > > David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know
> by
> >
> > > now that only responses that agree with his view of the
> > > world are acceptable.
> > >
> >
> > Indeed. I am duly contrite.
> >
> > (Ignoring for a moment that some media could not broadcast
>
> > in 1994 due to structural damage to their facilities, a
> > thing quakes are known to do.)
> >
>

Umm, the station I was working for was back within an hour.

I'm sorry that HBC picked a crumbling building...

And all newsers KFWB and KNX never missed a beat...nor did L.A.'s tv stations. But they all looked poor today...
 
>
> As for the local tv stations, NONE are in buildings where
> they are not owned by themseves or the sole tenants. They
> have NO code problems for generators.

I was talking about radio. Many radio stations were off for anywhere from a few seconds to many hours.

And, whether one owns a building or not has nothing to do with being able to have a generator. It has to do with separation between adjoining lots, fuel, storage, and general codes.
>
 
> > >
> > > David, don't confuse Glenn with facts. You should know
> by
> >
> > > now that only responses that agree with his view of the
> > > world are acceptable.
> > >
> >
> > Indeed. I am duly contrite.
> >
> > (Ignoring for a moment that some media could not broadcast
>
> > in 1994 due to structural damage to their facilities, a
> > thing quakes are known to do.)
> >
>
> Umm, the station I was working for was back within an hour.
> I'm sorry that HBC picked a crumbling buidling...be

In 1994, HBC did not exist, and would not for several more years. The building was not crumbling (it has been approved to be remodeled as lofts) but could not have a genny since it is too close to other buildings. KLAX was not on till noon, KALI the same.

Only Spanish station that was on was KKHJ, which lost 8 seconds. I have a tape of the station going off when the quake hit, and going back on with the jock reading emergency info while the cart racks fell over in the background... all live. A homeless person in Santa Ana was recording, and I bought it the next day for $20... By 5 AM, there were 20 staffers at KKHJ, all collecting information. I had signed off on the generator not more than 60 days before.

>
> And all newsers KFWB and KNX never missed a beat...nor did
> L.A.'s tv stations. But they all looked poor today...

Hint: a power failure is no big deal. It is not an earthquake, not a hurricane and not a fire.
>
 
Umm, you Posted this twice and are beginning to Creep me out?

> Umm, the station I was working for was back within an hour.
>
> I'm sorry that HBC picked a crumbling building...
>
> And all newsers KFWB and KNX never missed a beat...nor did
> L.A.'s tv stations. But they all looked poor today...
>
 
> Hint: a power failure is no big deal. It is not an
> earthquake, not a hurricane and not a fire.
> >

Hint, David. A power failure is a big deal when major radio and tv stations CAN'T report on it immediately or in a professional manner due to their own 2005 technical problems which they should not have. Now, lets talk about what happens at these stations when an earthquake or terrorist action occurs.

Thank you for making my case.
 
> > Hint: a power failure is no big deal. It is not an
> > earthquake, not a hurricane and not a fire.
> > >
>
> Hint, David. A power failure is a big deal when major radio
> and tv stations CAN'T report on it immediately or in a
> professional manner due to their own 2005 technical problems
> which they should not have. Now, lets talk about what
> happens at these stations when an earthquake or terrorist
> action occurs.

Many stations did not know the blackout had happened until much, much later in the afternoon. For most, it was not even noticable in their own studios... and by that time, the power was coming back on.

It is normal to have glitches at a new facility. I will bet that it does not affect KNX a second time.

The only issue after about 2:30 was traffic light timing.
 
> > > Great response, KMR. You are staying on topic just like
> > you
> > > always preach by the Radio-info.com rules.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I figured you would say. Thanks for
> living
> > up to my expectations.
> >
>
> I am so sorry you can't add anything FACTUAL about this
> subject. But that doesn't surprise me or anyone else.

OTOH, you post whatever you like and expect it to be taken as fact.

Remind me of this fact: How many times have you been banned, Glenn? Because you're drifting into the same behavior ...<P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
If this is in fact true, this is not good news, esp considering KFWB is a PEP.

> Scott Mason has some problems to fix at the new Miracle Mile
> location of KFWB and KNX. They were not able to take live
> calls on the air including all reporters (SBC phone lines
> did not go down, nor did Verizon or even my cell service,
> Sprint PCS). They finally had to get a cell phone hook-up
> just to get outside calls on. And the generator didn't kick
> in right away. Being an all news outlet and being off the
> air during an emergency doesn't look good when you are in
> the #1 radio revenue market in the world.
>
> Watching local tv, everyone has got problems that I can't
> believe with such a non-event. I saw less on-air technical
> problems after the 1994 Earthquake. Every station in this
> town needs to revamp their plans in case of a real
> emergency.
>
 
> > Great response, KMR. You are staying on topic just like
> you
> > always preach by the Radio-info.com rules.
>
> Yes, that's what I figured you would say. Thanks for living
> up to my expectations.
>
...How soon before he's posting as imnabwon3?
 
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