Yes, if KNOU were to become KNX-FM, which hasn't happened now, especially since the KNOU callsign has only been applied to 97.1 FM since April, just eight months ago.
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KNX onto … 97.1??
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Yes, if KNOU were to become KNX-FM, which hasn't happened now, especially since the KNOU callsign has only been applied to 97.1 FM since April, just eight months ago.
Bonneville is not the best at properly ID’ing their stations, at least from my experience in Phoenix. They never properly identify their HD FM signals like they are supposed to do per FCC regulations. They identify KTAR News 92.3 FM as simply “KTAR FM Glendale / Phoenix” with no mention of the HD-1 signal they are using. Same goes for Arizona Sports 98.7 FM which is simply ID’ed as “KMVP FM Phoenix” with no mention of the HD-1 signal. Both should be identifying the HD signal, but they don’t. I have noticed the same thing with KSL in Salt Lake City: they don’t ID the FM HD-1 signal either. Bonneville has been doing this for nearly 15 years now so obviously no one cares at the FCC.
Audacy, on the other hand, does ID their stations properly with “KRTH FM and HD-1 Los Angeles.”
The whole point, though, is that it makes a lot of sense to clean up the TOH ID and change the calls to KNX-FM. There is no reason not to considering they own the KNX call letters and KNX-FM is not currently being used elsewhere, which is the problem for KCBS in San Francisco and WBBM in Chicago. KYW in Philadelphia also has similar issues.
Back in the day, KFWB had promos that said, "three, four, five times a day" with a hint that every few hours there might be breaking news you needed to know. They understood ratings for all news, and they got that it was not about continuous TSL but many short instances every day.
YES! 60's 70's oldies, especially now with the latest flip of Levine's 1260 AM.
KNX aired the five-minute version of the newscast at 7:00 pm PT.
my perspective on this from the view of a DFW area radio listener, this is a interesting move for Audacy to move a AM station to FM in one of the biggest markets in Radio, this is not gonna bode well with 103.7 KVIL struggling as a Alternative Rock station, if they flip, now this give Audacy DFW a option to put a new music format on KVIL or just blow the music format up, move "The Fan" and it's sports talk and Dallas Cowboys (which if it happens, would reunite the Cowboys with KVIL due to it's history of it being the former Cowboys' radio home during the Ron Chapman days of the station) and Texas Rangers coverage over to 103.7 while putting 1080 AM KRLD on to the FM/HD1 side with 105.3 FM since the KRLD-FM calls are already there and the KRLD calls are part of the station's identity.
Not legal. It would have to be:
“KNX, KNX-FM and HD-1, Los Angeles. “
Both the FM and the HD-1 attached to it must be ID’d, and Audacy does it properly.
If the FCC mandated an AM suffix on 1070 as part of the reassignment of the KNX-FM calls, it could be:
“KNX-AM, FM and HD-1, Los Angeles.”
That would make no sense. If they were that concerned about calls they would transfer the KRLD-FM calls to 103.7. No need to move the programming, they might not even bother to change the calls if such a move happened.
There is no -AM suffix. AM stations are always just the base callsign.
And "and HD1" is a corporate lawyer construct, not an FCC mandate. The letter of 73.1201 says only that an ID must appropriately inform listeners that they are hearing a digital broadcast. It doesn't specify the wording.
Or just be it like...
"KNX 1070, 97.1 KNX-FM and HD1 and 101.1 KRTH-HD2... Los Angeles, Orange County and *ALL* of Southern California." Just like the good old days.
What would be your preferred wording for the HD part of a station's ID?
I highly doubt this going to number one. We will see!
Till David Field bankrupts the company.
So they first got rid of the iconic KNX 1070 TTH sounder and now the time blip....
What's the purpose of this? These are the small things which ultimately form the psychological attachment between listener and what is being programmed. It is the "glue." I have pretty much turned off KNX anymore and rely on KFI for my news and traffic coverage. They don't futz with things that "ain't broke."
What's the purpose of this? These are the small things which ultimately form the psychological attachment between listener and what is being programmed. It is the "glue." I have pretty much turned off KNX anymore and rely on KFI for my news and traffic coverage. They don't futz with things that "ain't broke."
The time tone is complicated since the FM and its HD-1 introduce a delay, so the FM would be off by nearly 10 seconds. Yes, something could be done to make the AM signal delayed to match the FM, but that is a lot of added circuitry that, in the end, can go wrong. KISS is the term to keep in mind.
Anyway, everyone (a "statistical" everyone) has watches and clocks and phones that have ultra-ultra-accurate time, so the tone is more tradition than useful. And those artifacts, like the background teletype sound, are irrelevant and even odd to the demographics they need to attract to stay viable.
And that's sad, particularly for those of us who had to use the "special soap" to get our hands clean after changing an RTTY ribbon.
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"And" is tricky. I was under the impression it had to be "KNX, KNX-FM, KNX-FM HD1 Los Angeles". Otherwise, you'd be identifying the AM's HD signal instead of the FM's.
For some reason, I just heard the time tone at 2:00 AM. They must’ve brought it back. Whether that’s intentional or not, I don’t know.
Scott: KCBS IDs as “KCBS-AM, KFRC-FM and HD-1”. Has since 2008.
Not if the “and” follows the FM. Back to KCBS, when it was running HD on the AM (it stopped four or five years ago), the ID was “KCBS-AM and HD, KFRC-FM and HD-1”.
Also, I’m unaware of any AM HDs with multiple streams. “HD” signifies AM, “HD-1” (or -2, -3, or -4) is an FM.
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