Picked up KOA Denver last night from midtown Manhattan. Is this a catch? KOA is such a powerhouse in much of the rest of the country that it's a regular most nights across mid-America. However, I guess because nighttime AM reception is such a challenge in Manhattan itself, I thought this was something to write about.
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KOA in midtown Manhattan
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I think that's pretty decent! What with the 850 jumble on the East Coast (heck, even from Tennessee east), that's an accomplishment!
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icybluelake said:
I'm impressed. Considering all the stations on 850 in the east and being in Manhattan, that's quite an accomplishment IMO.
Icangelp said:fangio28 said:
It's $396.00 a night plus and additional $120.00 for hookups, and by hookups I mean water and electric, not the NY kind, which by the way is another $859.00 should you choose it.
This made me laugh. Out loud. Thanks. Shout out to you too, fangio.
Yeah, I did mean Manhattan, NYC and not Manhattan Kansas, where KOA is probably strong and clear every single night. That would have been a swindle if I posted that -- and not a very good joke.
DXing in Manhattan seems to me like a waste of time, most of the time, so catching KOA, with the tremendous local interference, seemed like a good catch. I just didn't know if it would be if I were, say, 50 miles west in New Jersey, since that station is such a powerhouse. I spend a lot of time in Iowa, also, where hearing KOA at night is almost as reliable as the sun coming up the next morning.
icybluelake said:Icangelp said:fangio28 said:
It's $396.00 a night plus and additional $120.00 for hookups, and by hookups I mean water and electric, not the NY kind, which by the way is another $859.00 should you choose it.
This made me laugh. Out loud. Thanks. Shout out to you too, fangio.
Yeah, I did mean Manhattan, NYC and not Manhattan Kansas, where KOA is probably strong and clear every single night. That would have been a swindle if I posted that -- and not a very good joke.
DXing in Manhattan seems to me like a waste of time, most of the time, so catching KOA, with the tremendous local interference, seemed like a good catch. I just didn't know if it would be if I were, say, 50 miles west in New Jersey, since that station is such a powerhouse. I spend a lot of time in Iowa, also, where hearing KOA at night is almost as reliable as the sun coming up the next morning.
DXing in Manhattan is a real challenge. I've tried it a few times & it's very difficult.
Congratulations on your catch.
icybluelake said:
No, KOA would still be a great catch in New Jersey. I caught it only a couple of times from eastern PA - and those were rare events. Most of the time, it was WKNR from Cleveland that dominated the channel in that area; WTAR Norfolk, VA occasionally took the lead as well. There are other signals on 850 with the potential to interfere with KOA in the northeast, including WGVS Muskegon, MI (which stirs up trouble even near Chicago) and WEEI Boston. It's a fairly busy channel these days, so any catch east of the Appalachians is a great catch. Doing it in Manhattan is an even more impressive achievement!
I'd think even away from the lights and interference of Manhattan, getting something that far away on 850 k.c. in the eastern part of the country would be a definite feat.
Congrats on KOA in midtown!!! I just checked the distance and it's over 1,600 miles! That's an impressive catch in ANY part of the country, let alone right in the middle of New York City! The best I can muster here on any given night is WOAI and KOA! KSL can be heard from just over 1,400 miles away, but not reliably and with a lot of patience. Out of my 820 AM loggings, only four of them are over the 1,600 mile mark. Just to give you an idea how rare such a long catch is.
While KOA anywhere east of Pennsylvania WOULD be very difficult, I do believe that it is possible. They pound into my location (1,045 miles away from Denver) at night, so it's not impossible for that strong of a signal to carry another 550 miles and be strong enough to peak above all of the other 850's along the east coast. I also remember reading on this message board of a DX'er from New Jersey who received KOA in his location. So I definitely believe that your KOA logging is legit. Congratulations again on an amazing catch!!
While KOA anywhere east of Pennsylvania WOULD be very difficult, I do believe that it is possible. They pound into my location (1,045 miles away from Denver) at night, so it's not impossible for that strong of a signal to carry another 550 miles and be strong enough to peak above all of the other 850's along the east coast. I also remember reading on this message board of a DX'er from New Jersey who received KOA in his location. So I definitely believe that your KOA logging is legit. Congratulations again on an amazing catch!!
No doubt in my mind that I caught it, although it didn't last long, but I caught a "KOA Denver" ID in the few minutes it was audible.
I'm gonna start turning on my AM at night more often here, although it probably won't yield much in the future.
I'm gonna start turning on my AM at night more often here, although it probably won't yield much in the future.
icybluelake said:
Please let us know if you catch any of the Chicago 50KWs.
I think getting KOA in the northeast in places like Jersey and especially in the heart of NYC is a great catch even though the distance is about the same to Denver as here in Tampa where KOA is pretty much a regular.
Fortunately for me here, 850 isn't dominated by the same kind of stations that interfere in the northeast, not even any Cubans.
If 850 was an old fashioned type clear channel where only one or two 50 kw stations broadcasted at night as the only stations on that frequency, I bet KOA would be an easily listenable regular in the northeast just as WLS used to be in California.
Fortunately for me here, 850 isn't dominated by the same kind of stations that interfere in the northeast, not even any Cubans.
If 850 was an old fashioned type clear channel where only one or two 50 kw stations broadcasted at night as the only stations on that frequency, I bet KOA would be an easily listenable regular in the northeast just as WLS used to be in California.
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This is kinda OT, but the last posts on p 1 reminded me....
About 1971 it was, my folks & I stayed at a KOA Kampground near Denver, and I wish I could prove it, but my memory's awful now....I am almost positive that it was at the KOA where I first heard or saw the call letters "KOA"...I think we were watching KOA-TV on a little TV. I was about 12 years old.
Again, can't prove it, but anyway I figure it's a great story for here.....or not.....
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About 1971 it was, my folks & I stayed at a KOA Kampground near Denver, and I wish I could prove it, but my memory's awful now....I am almost positive that it was at the KOA where I first heard or saw the call letters "KOA"...I think we were watching KOA-TV on a little TV. I was about 12 years old.
Again, can't prove it, but anyway I figure it's a great story for here.....or not.....
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Radioman, two Chicago 50k stations are regulars here on a nightly basis -- WSCR and WLS. WGN and WBBM might be catchable, too, but are adjacent to 2 NYC co-channel 50kw stations, WOR (710) and WABC (770), which completely cover 720 and 780 respectively in my part of town at night. For that matter, WSCR and WLS are also directly adjacent to two 50kw stations, WFAN (660) and WCBS (880). But those stations' signals have problems in Manhattan (so I've heard) for reasons having to do with their transmitters being located on City Island, between the Bronx and Queens. (Someone else around here can explain the reasons for that better than I.) I'm pretty sure that IBOC is a factor here as well.
As a result, 670 and 890 are two of the few 50kw signals I can pick up regularly in midtown Manhattan at night. Others include WHAS, CKLW, WBAL, CJBC (860 Toronto).
If I recall correctly, I've heard WMVP at night a ways out of the NYC area, while traveling back home. Their signal doesn't seem as reliable from what I recall, but generally pretty good around the northeast. Here in the city, I don't think I've ever picked it up since at 1000, it's adjacent to 1010 WINS, which swamps 1000 all the time.
It occurs could also probably use a different AM radio to feed this strange DX hobby of mine. Or I could just move somewhere else.
As a result, 670 and 890 are two of the few 50kw signals I can pick up regularly in midtown Manhattan at night. Others include WHAS, CKLW, WBAL, CJBC (860 Toronto).
If I recall correctly, I've heard WMVP at night a ways out of the NYC area, while traveling back home. Their signal doesn't seem as reliable from what I recall, but generally pretty good around the northeast. Here in the city, I don't think I've ever picked it up since at 1000, it's adjacent to 1010 WINS, which swamps 1000 all the time.
It occurs could also probably use a different AM radio to feed this strange DX hobby of mine. Or I could just move somewhere else.
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