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KOA in midtown Manhattan

icybluelake said:
Radioman, two Chicago 50k stations are regulars here on a nightly basis -- WSCR and WLS. WGN and WBBM might be catchable, too, but are adjacent to 2 NYC co-channel 50kw stations, WOR (710) and WABC (770), which completely cover 720 and 780 respectively in my part of town at night. For that matter, WSCR and WLS are also directly adjacent to two 50kw stations, WFAN (660) and WCBS (880). But those stations' signals have problems in Manhattan (so I've heard) for reasons having to do with their transmitters being located on City Island, between the Bronx and Queens. (Someone else around here can explain the reasons for that better than I.) I'm pretty sure that IBOC is a factor here as well.

As a result, 670 and 890 are two of the few 50kw signals I can pick up regularly in midtown Manhattan at night. Others include WHAS, CKLW, WBAL, CJBC (860 Toronto).

If I recall correctly, I've heard WMVP at night a ways out of the NYC area, while traveling back home. Their signal doesn't seem as reliable from what I recall, but generally pretty good around the northeast. Here in the city, I don't think I've ever picked it up since at 1000, it's adjacent to 1010 WINS, which swamps 1000 all the time.

It occurs could also probably use a different AM radio to feed this strange DX hobby of mine. Or I could just move somewhere else.
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Icybluelake--thanks for the report. I haven't been to NYC in many years, but in the 60s & 70s I used to get there fairly often. When staying in midtown Manhattan I remember to get any kind of decent DX reception you had to be right up near a window to even have a chance.
One trip that I made in 1965 for the New York Worlds Fair I stayed out in Queens and I remember at that time AM 1000 which was then WCFL
had the best signal of all the Chicago stations. Of course they send most of their power towards the east coast.

Thanks again!
 
Believe it or not, back in the 50s there was a DXer named Erick Johnson who
DXed quite successfully from Manhattan. And, of course, longtime NRC editor Ernie Cooper DXed into the 60s, maybe 70s from nearby Brooklyn.
Ron Schiller
 
fangio28 said:
Believe it or not, back in the 50s there was a DXer named Erick Johnson who
DXed quite successfully from Manhattan. And, of course, longtime NRC editor Ernie Cooper DXed into the 60s, maybe 70s from nearby Brooklyn.
Ron Schiller
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Any idea what equipment they used?
 
Re DXing from NYC: Johnson, now that I think about it, may have lived in the Bronx, but same QRM difficulties as Manhattan. He was fairly high up but I
have no idea on equipment.
Cooper, in Brooklyn, lived in a groundfloor brownstone type apartment. I
think he had a Hammarlund HQ180 (as I did in NJ). Another DXer, Bernie
Duffy lived & DXed from another NYC borough: Staten Island, but that did
not have the highrise buildings, as the other boroughs did.
Seems like Cooper had upwards of 3500 veries, too! No fancy antennas either.
 
MarioMania said:
Is it possible to catch KNX there??
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I don't think anyone on the middle Atlantic coast will be able to hear KNX these days; but if he uses a super-long wire antenna about 1000 feet long pointing west, and have it up fairly high above the ground, then he might be able to hear it. So, lots and lots of space is needed for such an antenna connected to an expensive, high performance radio.
 
I had KNX from my home in south FL about 20 years ago, and I had it on tape...but doggone if I can find that thing.

cd
 
I used to think hearing KNX in Tampa was impossible, especially because of WAPI usually ruling the frequency so I gave little effort or time to try.

Someone here (I forget who now) said to keep listening and that it was possible. So I did and I finally heard them in December of 09 one night with an ID with the radio on 1070 for almost two hours. I could hear some station in the background of WAPI which was fading in and out much of that time but didn't know what it was untol I heard the KNX ID.

It was soon after that when I got my video of KNX at night here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQtwfmnf78

I've heard it since a couple times too and I didn't spend nearly the amount of time listening to 1070 as before I heard them the first time.

CD, I think you should have no problem hearing KNX again where you are if you spend the time.
 
Wow!!!! What a great find!!!!! I'm about 10 miles southeast of Pittsburgh,PA & WKNR Cleveland is all I can get on 850AM.

I've always scanned up & down the dial, but I just started playing around trying to officially DX a few weeks ago! WGN 720AM has been booming in the last few days & tonight I picked up 1160AM WYLL also booming in out of Chicago as well!

Back in September while I was about 5 miles south of Virginia Beach along the coast I also piced up WJAS 1320AM out of Pittsburgh loud & clear at night......It would boom in for about 2 minutes then fade a little for about 15 seconds. It was also recieveable like that in the car through Virginia
& The D.C. area.............

So far it's been fun, can't wait to see what else I can DX through the weeks!!!
 
But guys, dxing KNX from Florida (especially the west coast of FL) isn't nearly the same thing as trying to pick it up from the northeast. Yes, FL is technically "the east coast" - but the subtle geography of North America is such that Tampa is as far west as central Ohio; Miami is at the same longitude as the PA/OH border. So that puts you a few hundred miles closer to the west coast than people in northeastern cities are.

Not to mention that there's an extra 700 miles of the quiet Gulf of Mexico between the FL peninsula and southern CA that the east doesn't enjoy. And that LA is closer in latitude to FL than it is to NY, PA or DC. So, you're a lot closer to L.A. from FL than someone in New York would be. Dxing California from FL is more like doing so from the midwest than from the northeast.

Just thought I'd point that out because (especially today) it's a very difficult thing to catch ANY AM signal from the western half of the US from anywhere in New England or the northeast corridor. For one thing, the entire band is crowded now. Secondly, having the Appalachian Mountains between you and points west doesn't seem to help. Lastly, places like Philly, New York and (especially) Boston are quite a bit farther east than other parts of the US.

For these reasons, in 2011, KOA is an awesome catch anywhere in this region and an amazing feat from Manhattan; KSL, KNX, KFI, KNBR and others are nary impossible these days.
 
I already pointed out earlier that getting KOA in the northeast is a great catch even though the distance there from Denver is about the same as here where KOA is pretty much a regular.

Also at an advantage here, we don't have to deal with as much co frequency interference on 850 and 1070 as up in the northeast.
 
I've always though that KOA propagates to the east better during the winter months.
It may just be a quieter band and longer nights assisting them.

I have spent more then one NYE listening to KOA from TN & MS. The signal just seems weaker in the warmer months at night.
 
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