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KOGO TO FM

MOVED: TIO: KOGO TO FM

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Hmm..... "no static at all" on the FM?

http://www.mediafire.com/?1nog0sk14h7o9qi

That was recorded near Fuerte Elementary School on my Tecsun PL-606 at the time of the switch, and includes clips from the first segment of the simulcast. I started on 95.7, then switched back and forth between 95.7 and 600 a few times to compare the two signals.

So is the no FM static claim true?? Unless my ears are playing tricks on me, I have a MUCH easier time picking up 600's signal than 95.7's signal. (That's unless I set my radio in front of my computer monitor, in which case one of the harmonics of the horizontal scan frequency (for its usual setup) falls almost right on 600's frequency, completely blocking KOGO. Otherwise, pretty much throughout my house I have virtually no problems picking up 600, but 95.7 is a pita - that recording was made outside with the whip antenna extended.)
 
I've listened to them as far south as Bonita and even there the FM was a much, much more palatable signal. The only place where the FM lost out was in the Rancho Bernardo area along I-15, but frankly the hills of the North County play havoc with all FM's as you drive around: if you want to listen FM while commuting the 15 and then westward on the 78 you have station hop as various signals go in and out.

But, when the 95.7 signal is there I found myself listening to KOGO FM a whole lot more than I ever did the AM (the only time I listened to the AM really was during Cliff Albert Memorial Power Outage).
 
RE: crainbebo
I totally agree with you,
"FCC...why are you doing this? Leave FM music radio alone! The news belongs on AM"

Or at least if KOGO is going to take over a station currently used, move the station to another channel
I feel every place should have at least two country stations. I love country, but there are some songs I will not listen too and would like an alternate station to change to while I'm driving.

To: KOGO
On, newcountry957.com, there is link: "Looking for Country Music, click 'Here' to listen live", the link goes to iHeart Radio.
How am I too listen to iHeart Radio on my car radio made in 1998?
Please bring back New Country Radio, even if it's a different station!
KSON Country Radio is great, but sometimes I wan to listen to another country station.
Oh, and go back to the AM Dial where News is suppose to be, I hate listening to winning reports
 
dewaldtl said:
How am I too listen to iHeart Radio on my car radio made in 1998?
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I have a 2000 Dodge van and I've been listening to internet radio in it for more than six years, first on a Palm Treo, most recently on an iPhone (both plugged into the Dodge's radio via one of those cassette adapters with a stereo audio jack attached to them).
 
dewaldtl said:
RE: crainbebo
I totally agree with you,
"FCC...why are you doing this? Leave FM music radio alone! The news belongs on AM"
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Where does it say that the FCC is requiring this? It's CC's decision because THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO AM IS THE 65+ AUDIENCE. The established news-talk formats are moving to FM because that's where the listeners are. This is 2011, not 1981--DEAL WITH IT!
 
Radio is dead... yeah. Or at least on life support.

The last time AM/FM simulcasts were a big thing, it was because FM was worthless and no one knew what to do with it but simulcast their AM signal.

Now AM is worthless and they're abandoning ship to FM.

I am sad, though, that a station that had hosted music programming exclusively since sign-on in 1970 - mostly rock - no longer has it. That's just heartbreaking.

-- Doc
 
DoctorWu said:
Radio is dead... yeah. Or at least on life support.

The last time AM/FM simulcasts were a big thing, it was because FM was worthless and no one knew what to do with it but simulcast their AM signal.
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Look when KOGO's current factility was licensed. How extensive was the populated area of the San Diego market?

In fact, 1240 was able to pretty well cover the market at one time. Today, the useful signal covers less than half the market population... between urban sprawl and increased interference, most AMs no longer cover their markets... including the earliest ones that are nondirectional or only moderately directional.

So, some AMs are dead and others are significantly hampered due to coverage. All are crippled by the increases in noise levels, resulting in limited listening by nearly anyone under 55 or 60.

Tell me: how are the gas stations and eateries along Route 66 doing ever since the Interstate highways started opening? This is just a change in situation that AM is just not able to survive.
 
DavidEduardo said:
DoctorWu said:
Radio is dead... yeah. Or at least on life support.

The last time AM/FM simulcasts were a big thing, it was because FM was worthless and no one knew what to do with it but simulcast their AM signal.
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Look when KOGO's current factility was licensed. How extensive was the populated area of the San Diego market?

In fact, 1240 was able to pretty well cover the market at one time. Today, the useful signal covers less than half the market population... between urban sprawl and increased interference, most AMs no longer cover their markets... including the earliest ones that are nondirectional or only moderately directional.

So, some AMs are dead and others are significantly hampered due to coverage. All are crippled by the increases in noise levels, resulting in limited listening by nearly anyone under 55 or 60.

Tell me: how are the gas stations and eateries along Route 66 doing ever since the Interstate highways started opening? This is just a change in situation that AM is just not able to survive.
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It is amazing that AM broadcast radio has managed to survive this long. You can still listen to KOGO on a crystal radio made 100 years ago! I doubt we have any current electronic devices that will still be able to receive communications in 2111 (well maybe that same crystal set will still be useful for picking up Ray Lucia IV on his paid Saturday morning progam on am 1000).
 
I think the activists who applied for a permit in Ramona and Descanso should have gotten the 95.7 frequency. Better than what's on there now.
 
dewaldtl: Or at least if KOGO is going to take over a station currently used, move the station to another channel
I feel every place should have at least two country stations. I love country, but there are some songs I will not listen too and would like an alternate station to change to while I'm driving.

Here's an idea get yourself a smartphone with a data plan and tune in, drop out, and enjoy the endless hours of any kind of music that's out there. Slacker, Pandora, I Heart Radio, or any of the country music radio station website choices on the internet is a country music fan's delight! I got the Slacker $3.99 plan and you have endless skips for all the music selections you don't want to listen to, plus no commericals. I'm listening to one of Slacker's New Country channels right now and it's great! There's a lot of really good sounding country artist's out making music right now. And I've always considered myself a rocker. Go figure...
 
radio-darn said:
It is amazing that AM broadcast radio has managed to survive this long. You can still listen to KOGO on a crystal radio made 100 years ago! I doubt we have any current electronic devices that will still be able to receive communications in 2111 (well maybe that same crystal set will still be useful for picking up Ray Lucia IV on his paid Saturday morning progam on am 1000).
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Bob, I'm listening to KOGO-FM on that high fidelity mobile device you marketed a couple of years ago. That was a wise investment. Thanks for the technology tip. You should market that for Christmas.
 
Media Hack Chris | SDR said:
Bob, I'm listening to KOGO-FM on that high fidelity mobile device you marketed a couple of years ago. That was a wise investment. Thanks for the technology tip. You should market that for Christmas.
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You are talking of course about the original portable, wireless audio streaming device: http://216.117.134.16/streaming.html
 
KOGO back to AM only

KOGO is back to being on AM only as 95.7 has begun to air Christmas music.
Just a year after celebrating their expansion onto FM, this move seems quite unexpected, despite a lack in upward trajectory in their ratings since ClearChannel seems pretty committed to transitioning their talk stations onto FM in quite a few markets nationwide.
Thoughts?
 
My prediction-KUSS comes back on December 26th.

-crainbebo
 
DavidEduardo said:
crainbebo said:
The thing is, we are losing so many music radio stations to News/Talk and Sports. Just look at WYSP in Phily, and how the switched to 94 WIP a few months ago. A couple decades from now, the AM radio we once knew will probably fade away into history...

Another thing is more and more people are getting rid of their old radios and turning to iPod-only for music.
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You are missing the real issue: AM stations with successful and viable formats are moving to FM because the bulk of people under 55 (in other words, those who advertisers pay to reach) have no use for the band and don't regularly use it.

So, stations that are marginal or unprofitable in a music format can be used to simulcast or replace AM signals that have good formats on them that are viable if on FM.

This is not a replacement for music formats; it's a replacement for bad music formats in an attempt to protect better formats that are now on AM.
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So what does it say that the KOGO AM/FM combination does no better than KOGO-AM did on its own? They're not drawing in new listeners who would have refused to listen on AM, just moving over some of their own AM listeners to FM. And losing a second source of income if the FM were still another format.
 
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